Moonshot wrote:william-james88 wrote:itscramtastic wrote:Just let them dream WJ!! I know I'm pre-ordering from my specific retailer when I get the chance Anything to replace Alternators Sunstreaker as my stand in.william-james88 wrote:How can we know this when no one has had it in hand?Moonshot wrote:This is the best Sunstreaker figure ever. A three way tie for best MP figure as well between; Megatron, Sunstreaker and Inferno.
Oh I am not doubting this is the best Sunstreaker figure, its line about him being the Best MP figure of all time that got to me. The fake parts and cartoon innacurate backpack already cost it some points over others (like MP Grimlock).
So far my list of top MPs is the following
5. Masterpiece Optimus Primal
4. Transformers Masterpiece Sideswipe (Lambor)
3. Transformers Masterpiece Grimlock (Grimlock (MP-08))
2. Masterpiece Ironhide
1. Transformers Masterpiece Wheeljack
I dont see this guy dethroning any but you never know.
Next time I will remember to say my favorite instead of best MP Grimlock does looks great, however scale is off too much for me. My top 5 MP would be, in no particular order, Inferno, Sunstreaker, Soundblaster, Megatron and Wheeljack. But Prowl is pretty sweet too.
fenrir72 wrote:Moonshot wrote:william-james88 wrote:itscramtastic wrote:Just let them dream WJ!! I know I'm pre-ordering from my specific retailer when I get the chance Anything to replace Alternators Sunstreaker as my stand in.william-james88 wrote:How can we know this when no one has had it in hand?Moonshot wrote:This is the best Sunstreaker figure ever. A three way tie for best MP figure as well between; Megatron, Sunstreaker and Inferno.
Oh I am not doubting this is the best Sunstreaker figure, its line about him being the Best MP figure of all time that got to me. The fake parts and cartoon innacurate backpack already cost it some points over others (like MP Grimlock).
So far my list of top MPs is the following
5. Masterpiece Optimus Primal
4. Transformers Masterpiece Sideswipe (Lambor)
3. Transformers Masterpiece Grimlock (Grimlock (MP-08))
2. Masterpiece Ironhide
1. Transformers Masterpiece Wheeljack
I dont see this guy dethroning any but you never know.
Next time I will remember to say my favorite instead of best MP Grimlock does looks great, however scale is off too much for me. My top 5 MP would be, in no particular order, Inferno, Sunstreaker, Soundblaster, Megatron and Wheeljack. But Prowl is pretty sweet too.
Why? Is there a thought police out there you have to genuflect at first before you post such thoughts?
Kurona wrote:Likewise, if Sunstreaker turns out to be a terrible piece of crap with a fiddly-as-all-heck transformation with unappealing colour schemes and absolutely botched quality control, that doesn't mean one can't enjoy it; nor does it mean one can't dislike it if it turns out to be the best figure ever made. Just depends on the person and it's important to recognise that quality and personal tastes may be linked but are not necessarily the same.
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:Likewise, if Sunstreaker turns out to be a terrible piece of crap with a fiddly-as-all-heck transformation with unappealing colour schemes and absolutely botched quality control, that doesn't mean one can't enjoy it; nor does it mean one can't dislike it if it turns out to be the best figure ever made. Just depends on the person and it's important to recognise that quality and personal tastes may be linked but are not necessarily the same.
I just meant that no matter how excited we are over something, we should wait till we have it in hand before actually determining if the toy is good or not and suggest it to others.
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Kurona wrote:So even with possible price markups by BBTS and what have you, seems Sunstreaker's still a hefty 50% more expensive than his bro.
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:So even with possible price markups by BBTS and what have you, seems Sunstreaker's still a hefty 50% more expensive than his bro.
So it turns out that wasnt a markup from BBTS afterall. They usually sell their toys close to the Takara MSRP (more like they make 100 Yen be $1) and thats the same price we have going on here. Of course, that MSRP price is rarely, if ever, respected in Japan where you find retail prices much lower than that.
Well that makes the choice super easy for me, its just too much for me.
Ironhidensh wrote:Has HLJ listed a price yet? Or anime export or any if the other Japanese importers?
Kurona wrote:Yeah, can't even blame inflation this time with Sideswipe right there who's assumedly the same size or close to it. Or are MP+s cheaper; how was MP+ Red Alert in comparison to, say, Hot Rod?
william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Has HLJ listed a price yet? Or anime export or any if the other Japanese importers?
No, but we can guess what it will be
AE: 8,400 yen = $75.61 USD + international shipping
HLJ: 9,600 yen = $86.42 + international shippingKurona wrote:Yeah, can't even blame inflation this time with Sideswipe right there who's assumedly the same size or close to it. Or are MP+s cheaper; how was MP+ Red Alert in comparison to, say, Hot Rod?
Hot Rod was cheaper than MP+ Red Alert, but not by much. ¥8,424 vs ¥8,000
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Has HLJ listed a price yet? Or anime export or any if the other Japanese importers?
No, but we can guess what it will be
AE: 8,400 yen = $75.61 USD + international shipping
HLJ: 9,600 yen = $86.42 + international shippingKurona wrote:Yeah, can't even blame inflation this time with Sideswipe right there who's assumedly the same size or close to it. Or are MP+s cheaper; how was MP+ Red Alert in comparison to, say, Hot Rod?
Hot Rod was cheaper than MP+ Red Alert, but not by much. ¥8,424 vs ¥8,000
Yeah, fair enough. Sunstreaker just couldn't bear to be on the same pay grade, the vain sod.
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Kurona wrote:Anyone think that at that price he'll quickly go on sale? I know predicting economics and why someone chooses to buy something is always iffy and tricky, but something about 120 moolah says to me it's suddenly not a very attractive prospect for many potential buyers. Especially when it's coming right off of Megatron.
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:Anyone think that at that price he'll quickly go on sale? I know predicting economics and why someone chooses to buy something is always iffy and tricky, but something about 120 moolah says to me it's suddenly not a very attractive prospect for many potential buyers. Especially when it's coming right off of Megatron.
I dont think so. Theres been a paradigm shift in the MP prices lat year and Megatron is great proof of this. He is getting a second release too just to answer to the demand. People have spoken with their wallets and have accepted this higher price point (which comes with higher parts count, presuming). Bumblebee was also very expensive for his size but the standard version sold out too. Sunstreaker will only go on sale if no one wants him, like Tracks and Roadrage. But it looks like we have some wealthy fans out there (or at least fans who allocate a big budget to their collection).
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:Anyone think that at that price he'll quickly go on sale? I know predicting economics and why someone chooses to buy something is always iffy and tricky, but something about 120 moolah says to me it's suddenly not a very attractive prospect for many potential buyers. Especially when it's coming right off of Megatron.
I dont think so. Theres been a paradigm shift in the MP prices lat year and Megatron is great proof of this. He is getting a second release too just to answer to the demand. People have spoken with their wallets and have accepted this higher price point (which comes with higher parts count, presuming). Bumblebee was also very expensive for his size but the standard version sold out too. Sunstreaker will only go on sale if no one wants him, like Tracks and Roadrage. But it looks like we have some wealthy fans out there (or at least fans who allocate a big budget to their collection).
Kurona wrote:I mean it's not like people don't like him, but he doesn't quite have that star power behind him. So that price hike especially in comparison to previous car bots might put a lot more people off than if it was Starscream or Optimus.
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:I mean it's not like people don't like him, but he doesn't quite have that star power behind him. So that price hike especially in comparison to previous car bots might put a lot more people off than if it was Starscream or Optimus.
We will see. Afterall, there is even a market for these: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... res/37961/
And MP Bumblebee was also quite pricey. His price was higher than MP Prowl's As was Shockwave with the price of 1800 Yen
As we learnt with this MP line's numbering, the characters identity doesnt enter into the logic.
The price is dependent on cost and Sunstreaker costs more to make than the other cars. So its not that Takara should price it lower (they cant afford to) its that they should have ither come up with a transformation that uses less parts or simply not done him.
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william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:I mean it's not like people don't like him, but he doesn't quite have that star power behind him. So that price hike especially in comparison to previous car bots might put a lot more people off than if it was Starscream or Optimus.
We will see. Afterall, there is even a market for these: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... res/37961/
And MP Bumblebee was also quite pricey. His price was higher than MP Prowl's As was Shockwave with the price of 1800 Yen
As we learnt with this MP line's numbering, the characters identity doesnt enter into the logic.
The price is dependent on cost and Sunstreaker costs more to make than the other cars. So its not that Takara should price it lower (they cant afford to) its that they should have ither come up with a transformation that uses less parts or simply not done him.
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