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Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Did I miss something, who's MP-38?
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Tue May 23, 2017 1:58 am

Seibertron wrote:C'mon Takara! Not a fan of the overly cartoon head or bodies. Please stop!!!

I'm with Diem; keep going, Takara! ;)^ MOAR.




Seibertron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:They should just model them similarly to mp 10 through the datsuns and wheeljack - updates, intricate, visually interesting.


Bingo. Maybe he'll come with an alternate "toy" head to make guys like me happy, like they did with Inferno and Grapple. That would be fantastic. I love the Alien mask, but not if it means that he doesn't come with an alternate toy head.


All four heads are from the cartoon -- one style represents the work of TOEI Animation and the other mirrors episodes like Auto Berserk & Kremzeek --


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Inferno's TOEI head happens to look similar to the toy head..




william-james88 wrote:Here are some prevous sunstreaker heads. I personally think the Classics one and CW one are both closer to what I would want as a hybrid of styles working in a 3D environment:

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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Sunstreaker Gallery

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Transformers G1 1984 Sunstreaker Gallery

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Transformers Alternators Sunstreaker Gallery

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Transformers Universe - Classics 2.0 Sunstreaker Gallery

And here's the MP

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Nice compilation! The MP/cartoon one is easily the handsomest of the bunch imo.




chuckdawg1999 wrote:Did I miss something, who's MP-38?

http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/search/m ... index.html
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Tue May 23, 2017 2:06 am

Actual scans!

Keep in mind that they look a little overexposed but still much better than the phone pix --

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Tue May 23, 2017 2:11 am

Looks like they've upgraded the standard "Hasui" hands -- more wrist and thumb articulation. Wonder if this and the new gimmicks/goodies will affect the standard CarBot price much.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue May 23, 2017 5:12 am

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That is... one pretty damn big backpack.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblebee21 » Tue May 23, 2017 5:31 am

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Kurona wrote:That is... one pretty damn big backpack.

and a buttflap. hopefully you can put sunsurges body on him
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue May 23, 2017 5:40 am

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Kurona wrote:That is... one pretty damn big backpack.

and a buttflap. hopefully you can put sunsurges body on him

That makes no sense. The head is the worst part of 39.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblebee21 » Tue May 23, 2017 5:41 am

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Bumblebee21 wrote:
Kurona wrote:That is... one pretty damn big backpack.

and a buttflap. hopefully you can put sunsurges body on him

That makes no sense. The head is the worst part of 39.

opps. i meant put sunsurges head on mp-39's body.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue May 23, 2017 5:45 am

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Yeah, that makes more sense. Although, given takaras recent track record, I do believe that they will have alternate head options with this figure.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblebee21 » Tue May 23, 2017 5:54 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, that makes more sense. Although, given takaras recent track record, I do believe that they will have alternate head options with this figure.

hope so. those ears are god awful ugly
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Clearer scans of MP-39 Sunstreaker & Interview Translation

Postby Kurona » Tue May 23, 2017 5:59 am

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Following on from the discovery of Masterpiece Sunstreaker yesterday, fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath has found and given us some clearer scans of the magazine images to better show off Takara's MP-39 in all his majestic glory. Not only that, but thanks to bumblebee21, we have a translation of the interview - clarifying, among other things; that Beast Wars MPs are still coming; the designers want to focus on completing a cast of Season 1 Autobot Cars; and that the fake chest is partly made up of the roof. Check out the translation and the pictures of long-awaited yellow Lamborghini brother to Sideswipe below and tell us what you think on the boards!

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Bumblebee21 wrote:Designer team Translation:

-How did you master the essence of Sunstreaker into a Masterpiece?

"In regards to development, I also have a desire to arrange all of the initial cast members of the real car series. In taking turns to select which robot gets developed next, Sunstreaker was chosen.
The Diaclone was the first Transformer car robot.
The New Series was started by Lambor which was like a counter revenge.
With the development of this Masterpiece, Lamborghini was very vocal in the lead for alt mode design cues, which is the opposite way to tackle a design such as Sunstreaker, however, we have a relationship where were able to add alt mode styling, gimmicks, and a cartoon likeness.
_
Originally Sunstreakers car details were different to real life.
The popularity of MP 12 Lambor was a success amongst not only Transformers fans but also car enthusiasts. We decided we could not completely ignore the desires and wishes of the car enthusiasts.
I wanted to present Sunstreaker as a product that Countach fans would recognize while taking advantage of his animation styling.
I tried to reproduce both the animation & real car alt mode design in a way were the transformation is incorporated instead of making him partsform.
Its a situation providing the best of both worlds, we even made the doors open.

Basic layout for the transformation is close to the G1 figure, The bonnet was divided further to combat having such a wide toe in robot mode.
I wanted to avoid having the emblem split in the middle.

In the animated cartoon there were unexpected challenges with volumes that arose from the backparts because they differed from the actual toy.
The most difficult part of the design was the robot mode chest, this is the place where the alt mode roof moves however is unable to be correctly proportionate.

There are many people who hate the use of dummy parts so I thought about what would be the best way to convince them otherwise. What we chose to do was to turn the alt mode roof inside out and have the small windows fold out from underneath to form the smaller chest piece.
Because the alt mode windscreen is so large it is hard to create otherwise.
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For the shoulder we have a drawer joint. It is designed to swing back and forth. We designed this in the consideration of having the entire arm raise so you can create poses for holding the gun head on.
We are changing the direction of Masterpiece to make them better articulated. Until now we had mainly prioritised the forms before and after transformation. From now on articulation is being considered from the beggining.
In addition to this durability and resistance is being considered by using soft materials in areas of rub.
Masterpieces should have a high degree of paint applications now to enhance texture.
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I can design figures with parts allocation and material arrangment with the paint automatically considered.
There are situations where a part needs to transform 3 times in a certain direction, the parts count as a result is overwealming compared to were we started off with Lambor and the others.
This is amazing as I've been able to articulate Sunstreakers ankles in such a way where he can balance on one foot. This will not be limited to Sunstreaker, I plan to design more Masterpieces to posses this ability.

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Please tell us as much as you can on the Future of Masterpiece?

This part is hard to translate

Beast Wars & G1 are being released alternately since both parties are in different purchasing demographics seperated by age and so on. The release pattern has been thanks to you. We have managed to capture the age that was playing at the time of the show being broadcast and would like to keep the fever of waiting away by releasing more Beast Wars.
I want to distinguish between the 4x4 designs of Hoist and Trailbreaker in the meantime for the G1 fans, which will be troublesome.
I think Megatron and now Sunstreaker really suprised the fans & designers even!
I hope that Hoist can be realised with a few of these suprises. Alot of the masterpiece cars have come together.
We arranged the successive Masterpieces side by side the other day at a festival and they were very popular.

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I would like to arrange the car robots in rows like the opening sequence of the animiation.
I want to produce the remaining characters including the minibots.
There are many similar opinons as mine, so I'm speaking on their behalf as we take different directions to clear the obstacles in commercialising these products.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Tue May 23, 2017 6:12 am

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He looks pretty good, but I worry that next to his less ridiculously cartoon accurate brother Sideswipe he'll look slightly off. Also, the buttflap is a bit of a shame (though I hear that's a sacrifice that had to be made to get Lamborghini to not get their panties in a bunch).
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Tue May 23, 2017 6:37 am

Sunstreaker was the 1st transformer I bought back in '84, and he's finally going to be replaced on the shelf, (hold on, I need a moment...) The head thing aside, I really like the hideaway pistol in the leg, and happy that he has a gun at all, as I was never a fan of the missile replacing the fist mechanic of the original. Can anyone translate the caption for the picture that shows a silver Sideswipe gun on his back to see what's going on there?
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue May 23, 2017 6:37 am

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It's hard to tell for sure, but I believe the backpack on 39 is neater and tighter than Sunsurge.

On another note, it appears I've finally made my peace with backpacks.
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblebee21 » Tue May 23, 2017 6:40 am

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Designer team Translation:

-How did you master the essence of Sunstreaker into a Masterpiece?

"In regards to development, I also have a desire to arrange all of the initial cast members of the real car series. In taking turns to select which robot gets developed next, Sunstreaker was chosen.
The Diaclone was the first Transformer car robot.
The New Series was started by Lambor which was like a counter revenge.
With the development of this Masterpiece, Lamborghini was very vocal in the lead for alt mode design cues, which is the opposite way to tackle a design such as Sunstreaker, however, we have a relationship where were able to add alt mode styling, gimmicks, and a cartoon likeness.
_
Originally Sunstreakers car details were different to real life.
The popularity of MP 12 Lambor was a success amongst not only Transformers fans but also car enthusiasts. We decided we could not completely ignore the desires and wishes of the car enthusiasts.
I wanted to present Sunstreaker as a product that Countach fans would recognize while taking advantage of his animation styling.
I tried to reproduce both the animation & real car alt mode design in a way were the transformation is incorporated instead of making him partsform.
Its a situation providing the best of both worlds, we even made the doors open.

Basic layout for the transformation is close to the G1 figure, The bonnet was divided further to combat having such a wide toe in robot mode.
I wanted to avoid having the emblem split in the middle.

In the animated cartoon there were unexpected challenges with volumes that arose from the backparts because they differed from the actual toy.
The most difficult part of the design was the robot mode chest, this is the place where the alt mode roof moves however is unable to be correctly proportionate.

There are many people who hate the use of dummy parts so I thought about what would be the best way to convince them otherwise. What we chose to do was to turn the alt mode roof inside out and have the small windows fold out from underneath to form the smaller chest piece.
Because the alt mode windscreen is so large it is hard to create otherwise.
-
For the shoulder we have a drawer joint. It is designed to swing back and forth. We designed this in the consideration of having the entire arm raise so you can create poses for holding the gun head on.
We are changing the direction of Masterpiece to make them better articulated. Until now we had mainly prioritised the forms before and after transformation. From now on articulation is being considered from the beggining.
In addition to this durability and resistance is being considered by using soft materials in areas of rub.
Masterpieces should have a high degree of paint applications now to enhance texture.
-
I can design figures with parts allocation and material arrangment with the paint automatically considered.
There are situations where a part needs to transform 3 times in a certain direction, the parts count as a result is overwealming compared to were we started off with Lambor and the others.
This is amazing as I've been able to articulate Sunstreakers ankles in such a way where he can balance on one foot. This will not be limited to Sunstreaker, I plan to design more Masterpieces to posses this ability.

-
Please tell us as much as you can on the Future of Masterpiece?

This part is hard to translate

Beast Wars & G1 are being released alternately since both parties are in different purchasing demographics seperated by age and so on. The release pattern has been thanks to you. We have managed to capture the age that was playing at the time of the show being broadcast and would like to keep the fever of waiting away by releasing more Beast Wars.
I want to distinguish between the 4x4 designs of Hoist and Trailbreaker in the meantime for the G1 fans, which will be troublesome.
I think Megatron and now Sunstreaker really suprised the fans & designers even!
I hope that Hoist can be realised with a few of these suprises. Alot of the masterpiece cars have come together.
We arranged the successive Masterpieces side by side the other day at a festival and they were very popular.

-
I would like to arrange the car robots in rows like the opening sequence of the animiation.
I want to produce the remaining characters including the minibots.
There are many similar opinons as mine, so I'm speaking on their behalf as we take different directions to clear the obstacles in commercialising these products.
END/



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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblebee21 » Tue May 23, 2017 6:43 am

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itscramtastic wrote:Ha! I was just going to post that with the link back to the thread.

Like this.

i saw it in a different thread
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Tue May 23, 2017 7:22 am

At the moment, my only issue with this figure is that I don't have space on my shelf..


Here's the turnaround model --

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Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, that makes more sense. Although, given takaras recent track record, I do believe that they will have alternate head options with this figure.

Hard to believe there are more accessories than what's shown in the magazine..


Desslok2201 wrote:Sunstreaker was the 1st transformer I bought back in '84, and he's finally going to be replaced on the shelf, (hold on, I need a moment...) The head thing aside, I really like the hideaway pistol in the leg, and happy that he has a gun at all, as I was never a fan of the missile replacing the fist mechanic of the original. Can anyone translate the caption for the picture that shows a silver Sideswipe gun on his back to see what's going on there?


It's actually a new mold and not MP-12 Sideswipe's gun (notice the different vents detail.) I think it just shows that you can store it on his back.

Sunstreaker is one of those characters that didn't have a gun in their character-model (or toy) so he used different guns in the show.
This one was used in Dinobot Island part 2 & Changing Gears.

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He also showed the ability to shoot missiles like the toy; and electricity..

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Takara included one of his car-guns btw --

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Tue May 23, 2017 7:27 am

Here's another thing you can do with MP-39 Chip Chase.. >_>

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblebee21 » Tue May 23, 2017 7:30 am

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too bad we dont have a good mp thrust to do that with
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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue May 23, 2017 7:31 am

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So. Sounds like Hoist may be up next, as far as the G1 line goes. I love my bascube Trailbreaker and Hoist, but if Takes can do better.....

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Re: Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker Discussion Thread

Postby galvatron00 » Tue May 23, 2017 7:34 am

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This figure keeps getting better and better. I'm also excited to read in that translation that Trailbreaker, the rest of the car bots, and the minibots are in the works!

Anyone else here want to verify the translation?
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Courage: 9
Firepower: 5
Skill: 10

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