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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cobotron » Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:28 pm

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1984forever wrote:Why no size comparison to classics BB?

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December issue of Dengeki Hobby magazine featuring Masterpiece Bumblebee

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The magazine features 2 pages showcasing the upcoming Masterpiece Bumblebee figure and Spike in exosuit. We are given a good look at the faceplate option as well as new shots of Spike and his transforming exosuit. The magazine also provides images for the upcoming Takara Transformers Legends Wave 2, featuring Tankor Whirl and Roadbuster. Finally, there are also pictures Takara's Legends Arcee, Chromia and Windblade.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cobotron » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:01 am

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AHHH HAAAA!
So that explains the weird shape of BB's face. AWESOME!

Hey, would any of you users who speak/read Japanese mind translating the text that is talking about his face? Or just paraphrase. I wonder, does it flip, or do they snap in and out?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby shajaki » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:41 pm

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enough pics. he just needs to released upon the world.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:18 pm

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I think the issues people had with his face were ones specifically pertaining to Bee's frowny face, cuz the smiley face looks pretty good.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Torneira » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:53 pm

It's nice to have the option of the spare tire on his back.
Too bad the Autobot symbol on his chest/roof has such a big square gap around it.
It's a nice touch, to be able to hide it in vehicle mode, but clearly it's not appealing of how it looks. They should have made it more invisible.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:28 pm

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i think rather than having an authentic looking VW Bug to try to pull off a cartoon accurate robot
it would be better to have the more deformed vehicle mode and have both modes be more cartoon accurate
don't get me wrong this is a very nice bumble bee but it could be better and think how hard would a cliffjumper be with this masterpiece mold? just saying
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:34 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:and think how hard would a cliffjumper be with this masterpiece mold? just saying
Why would they use this mold to make a Cliffjumper when they could just make a new mold?

After all, G1 Cliffjumper was a different mold from G1 Bumblebee. They just shared similar transformation engineering.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:57 pm

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Hopefully for CJ, no drama and all that jazz about being a war toy etc. I can't wait for CJ in 2016 (my wish that is )
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby budmaloney » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:32 pm

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The chest symbol swap bugs me. I think if reprolabels makes a sticker for the roof of the bug with the same yellow as the paint, you could just slap it over it and put your own Autobot symbol. I don't think the flipping is required for transformation.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:48 pm

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budmaloney wrote:The chest symbol swap bugs me. I think if reprolabels makes a sticker for the roof of the bug with the same yellow as the paint, you could just slap it over it and put your own Autobot symbol. I don't think the flipping is required for transformation.


If the chest swap boundary was made too tight, people will complain. If it was made permanent(the symbol), people will complain............there just ain't no pleasing people this days >:oP
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cobotron » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:24 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
budmaloney wrote:The chest symbol swap bugs me. I think if reprolabels makes a sticker for the roof of the bug with the same yellow as the paint, you could just slap it over it and put your own Autobot symbol. I don't think the flipping is required for transformation.


If the chest swap boundary was made too tight, people will complain. If it was made permanent(the symbol), people will complain............there just ain't no pleasing people this days >:oP


This is what will happen.
Hem haw. Hem haw...
Then, everybody gets their Bug in hand and...
THIS GUY IS SO AWESOME! I CANT STOP HOLDING HIM IN ONE HAND AND MY NUTS AND BOLTS IN THE OTHER WHILE I JUMP AROUND IN A PUDDLE OF MY OWN PEE GIGGLING!
HE RULES, WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! :BOOM:






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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:44 pm

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@ Cobotron

Correct! 100%!

Sure, anyone is entitled to their opinions but does anyone ever consider the design applications first?

MP BB is kind of small to put it lightly. If narrowed, the swing door would put to much "force" on the frame when you try pushing it. Unlike in SOC (another company) Dangard A, it also had a hard to adjust part (compensated by adding a wee tool to push it). If Tomy had added that part and increased the cost, then all hell would get loose.

The price already and the size has a lot whining already (not considering the engineering effort and licensing and not to mention the "scaling" issues some around here will apply to this release).

It's okay like, we rant against Rodimus Convoy's exploding shoulders or maybe flipped feet of MP-10 QC but really, if I was the designer and listen to all this, the project will never be completed.

Btw, MP WJ is, from what I hear highly acclaimed home run hit. Sometimes too awesome that some of our compatriots are ODied with MP awesomeness that it no longer surprises them anymore.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Autobot032 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:06 am

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Cobotron wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
budmaloney wrote:The chest symbol swap bugs me. I think if reprolabels makes a sticker for the roof of the bug with the same yellow as the paint, you could just slap it over it and put your own Autobot symbol. I don't think the flipping is required for transformation.


If the chest swap boundary was made too tight, people will complain. If it was made permanent(the symbol), people will complain............there just ain't no pleasing people this days >:oP


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Then, everybody gets their Bug in hand and...
THIS GUY IS SO AWESOME! I CANT STOP HOLDING HIM IN ONE HAND AND MY NUTS AND BOLTS IN THE OTHER WHILE I JUMP AROUND IN A PUDDLE OF MY OWN PEE GIGGLING!
HE RULES, WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! :BOOM:






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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby noctorro » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:16 am

fenrir72 wrote:@ Cobotron
Sure, anyone is entitled to their opinions but does anyone ever consider the design applications first?


Nope, everything is possible in toy engineering. So there's absolutely no reason for Takara or Hasbro not to give us mass shifting in actual transformers toys.

ps. does Takara Windblade have a remolded face? Or just a different paint job?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Autobot032 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:32 am

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noctorro wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:@ Cobotron
Sure, anyone is entitled to their opinions but does anyone ever consider the design applications first?


Nope, everything is possible in toy engineering. So there's absolutely no reason for Takara or Hasbro not to give us mass shifting in actual transformers toys.

ps. does Takara Windblade have a remolded face? Or just a different paint job?


Just a straight up repaint.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:33 am

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noctorro wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:@ Cobotron
Sure, anyone is entitled to their opinions but does anyone ever consider the design applications first?


Nope, everything is possible in toy engineering. So there's absolutely no reason for Takara or Hasbro not to give us mass shifting in actual transformers toys.

ps. does Takara Windblade have a remolded face? Or just a different paint job?



:lol: That's bothering me too. Windblade's face. It seems like the paint placement of her optics are different, maybe painted below the place Hasbro's version was. Unless we get a high res pic, my statement is just speculation.
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Re: December issue of Dengeki Hobby magazine featuring Masterpiece Bumblebee

Postby padfoo » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:40 am

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william-james88 wrote:Tag Hobby has posted scans of the transformers related pages of the December 2014 issue of Dengeki Hobby magazine.

The magazine features 2 pages showcasing the upcoming Masterpiece Bumblebee figure and Spike in exosuit. We are given a good look at the faceplate option as well as new shots of Spike and his transforming exosuit. The magazine also provides images for the upcoming Takara Transformers Legends Wave 2, featuring Tankor Whirl and Roadbuster. Finally, there are also pictures Takara's Legends Arcee, Chromia and Windblade.

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I like everything about this figure except for the two n ok n masked faces. With that said I am still going to purchase it.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby noctorro » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:47 am

I thought about swapping the Classics G1 original cast line for the Masterpiece line but decided not to. But damn, HasTak is making it very difficult. If only the Seekers were more solid as action figures. If they make a good new Megatron then I'll go for the Masterpieces. Which will get me bankrupt. Still classics Jazz is so perfect, as well as Hound.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Ultra Markus » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:28 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:and think how hard would a cliffjumper be with this masterpiece mold? just saying
Why would they use this mold to make a Cliffjumper when they could just make a new mold?

After all, G1 Cliffjumper was a different mold from G1 Bumblebee. They just shared similar transformation engineering.

different skin sure, same everything else, i wouldn't call it a completely different mold >:oP
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:56 am

Uranus shot some comparsion photos of MP-21 Bumblebee next to 3rd Party Toyworld's BII:

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BII looks like a cool toy, but clearly MP-21 is the real deal.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:45 am

That Toy World one has an ugly alt mode. The deformed look doesn't seem to fit in with any other TFs, and the blue windows look awful. It reminds me of the Disney Donald Duck transformer.

If they were going to go with a deformed 'toon look, they should have carried that through to the bot mode as well. It's a weird combination of deformed cartoon alt mode and "classic"-looking bot mode.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cobotron » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:08 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby shajaki » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:24 pm

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those blue windows and yellow plastic on TW bii look really cheap in comparison.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

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I know this is going to make me sound like one of those impossible to please people who everything has to be perfect for, but I really don't like the way his back is designed. I feel like maybe they could have done with a couple more hinges for the side windows, and a swivel point at the top so that it could invert and lay flat on his back, THEN put the spare tire thing on the back. Not that I'm bashing the figure, it's amazing and I love that it comes with Spike in his Exo-Suit! It's just a nit-picky little thing really. I still want it!
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