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News Credits: 5 · by **zodconvoy** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:05 pm

It's a straight reissue? Preorder cancelled. >:oP

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:16 pm

zodconvoy wrote:It's a straight reissue? Preorder cancelled.

Just curious what were you expecting it to be?

They do look off without all the Chrome, especially Prime, but for those who have not experienced these molds, its still a solid option.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:20 pm

zodconvoy wrote:It's a straight reissue? Preorder cancelled.

No no, there are changes:

Fire Convoy:
-bright red instead of metallic flake red
-flat blue instead of metallic blue (all the blue on the original is painted so I’m assuming this one is the same)
-white instead of light cream parts
-dark gray instead of metallic gunmetal
-and in addition because of that the feet and shins (and other parts like that) are now the same color
-painted eyes instead of chrome in both modes
-waist is a flat gray (interesting cuz on the original it if the same color as the ladder and small robot ears, which are still metallic silver plastic here)
-possibly brighter orange on super mode chest?
-painted red chest with clear windows with blue paint underneath instead of red chrome chest with windows painted on top
-C-001 license plate
-only small robot’s inner calf is painted silver (on original the silver extends to the rest of the leg behind the sculpted part)

God Magnus:
-dark flat blue instead of metallic medium blue
-a lighter shade of light blue for the light blue parts (they appear less turquoise and more sky blue)
-flat white instead of metallic white
-painted blue and silver front bumper instead of chrome blue and silver
-painted eyes instead of chrome
-gold detailed head crest
-dark gray parts instead of gunmetal (matches change to new Fire Convoy)

God Fire Convoy:
-all the components color changes obv carry over
-translucent sword tip instead of opaque blue
-silver detailing instead of blue (possibly tampos instead of stickers?)
-possible “off black” instead of black on sword (could just be a trick of the lighting)
-black (off black?) sword handle/staff instead of metallic gray

And brand new voice clips recorded by Satoshi Hashimoto and Takashi Matsuyama

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:16 pm

Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade, we found more stock images of Encore God Fire Convoy on Amazon Japan. These give us our first look at God Magnus' robot mode for this reissue as well as clearer images than before.

There are several changes from the original release like the addition of circles at the base of the small robot's pectorals. Powered Convoy lists more differences found when comparing to the original releases of both the robots and the sword.

Powered Convoy wrote:- It seems all the chrome short of the Autobot symbols, rims, and antenna is no longer chrome.

= Fire Convoy has C-001 on his front bumper .

- The most obvious change is the coloration of the Super God Sword. It's no longer solid blue with a blue sticker but clear gray / purple with a silver sticker. This is animation accurate.

News Credits: 5 · by **zodconvoy** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:16 pm

I still have the originals and the same thing I've had on the shelf long enough to drive themselves isn't worth the money. I preordered in the hopes that it was an MP release like Star Saber and Primal had but just a rerelease isn't worth it.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:20 pm

kurthy wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-033857&page=top

Y 22860

That's a little more palatable, even though it will a giant box that can't go through SAL.

yeah so the final cost wont be as far off from what the US collector shops are selling em for (final cost would be around 27000 yen). The better deals are always on high priced smaller items because the fee to import them (ie shipping cost) is cheaper.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:24 pm

zodconvoy wrote: I preordered in the hopes that it was an MP release like Star Saber and Primal had but just a rerelease isn't worth it.

Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.

I hoped the season finale to Twin Peaks would make sense 8-}

News Credits: 5 · by **zodconvoy** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:32 pm

william-james88 wrote:I hoped the season finale to Twin Peaks would make sense

Fire Walk With Me did once you got passed the 30 year old high schoolers.

by **thedistinctroom** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:17 pm

Man, I hope they fixed the loose hips of the God Fire Convoy combined mode. The original is notorious for falling backwards. :GHOST:

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:28 pm

thedistinctroom wrote:Man, I hope they fixed the loose hips of the God Fire Convoy combined mode. The original is notorious for falling backwards.

It has more to do with the God Magnus chest part's size and weight (plus the batteries!) making him really top heavy, no amount of ratchet strength can fix that.

News Credits: 3 · by **Samsonator** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:25 pm

Less chrome and anime accurate paintjobs are a couple solid steps in the right direction.if they've tweaked the joints for added stability and addressed the problem of splitting tires then this is a must-have for me. RiD Prime and Mags were the start of my collecting career, and while I still have my originals, and a second, boxed Magnus, if they fix the issues the original figures had, I can't say no.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:35 pm

zodconvoy wrote:I still have the originals and the same thing I've had on the shelf long enough to drive themselves isn't worth the money. I preordered in the hopes that it was an MP release like Star Saber and Primal had but just a rerelease isn't worth it.

What part of "Encore" would suggest that this was to have been a MP release?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:19 pm

TakaraTomy's main TF website has put up a page for God Fire Convoy - http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_encore/encore_gfc

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:26 pm

Encore proper 8-)

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:43 pm

So I was checking out the pic of magnus' vehicle mode, and you can see a tire not all the way on the rim, looks like our hopes of plastic tires may have been dashed, not gonna lie, this might kill the deal for me

News Credits: 1 · by **ExciKaiser** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:31 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:So I was checking out the pic of magnus' vehicle mode, and you can see a tire not all the way on the rim, looks like our hopes of plastic tires may have been dashed, not gonna lie, this might kill the deal for me

Why ? because of the split tires of the original version ?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:01 am

ExciKaiser wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:So I was checking out the pic of magnus' vehicle mode, and you can see a tire not all the way on the rim, looks like our hopes of plastic tires may have been dashed, not gonna lie, this might kill the deal for me

Why ? because of the split tires of the original version ?

Yeah, I'm not paying this much money (either for this release, or for older versions) if there's even a chance something as bad as splitting tires will happen

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:21 am

Been thinking. This IS good.

With the import preorder price, inclusion of the God Sword, and the differences (however minor) makes this worthwhile. Hell, the Sword a line is almost worth the price of admission. I could be wrong, but wasn't the only way to get it previously the TRU clear/crystal set?

News Credits: 149 · by **Big Grim** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:04 am

These pics really d remind me how good a figure Fire Convoy is!

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:14 am

Wow! It seems this one has a more animation type color scheme, and those changes will undoubtedly make the bot modes look more cartoony, judging by the pics above, it certainly does look MORE cartoon then the originals with the metal flakes and gun metals and such.

Hmmm....not sure how I feel about that.

As I am coming to realize, some bots and lines deserve premium paints, metallic and so forth, while other series or bots should remain in a more anime and cartoony style color or color molding..

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:08 pm

TFND's Facebook page as well as the Dengeki Hobby website have new info on what is new with the Encore release of God Fire Convoy.

We could tell from the images that the deco would be more show accurate but now we have info on the electronics too. There are new recordings from the original voice cast, Satoshi Hashimoto (Fire Convoy) and Takashi Matsuyama (God Magnus). There are far more sounds in this release than the previous one, with TFND stating over 40. New battle sounds will be activated as the robot is combined.

It will also come with a collector card.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:09 am

New sounds I expect to hear:

Fire Convoy:
Fire engine sirens
"Fire Convoy, Transform!"
"Cybertron senshi, Transform!"
"Water Storm!" (or "Water Storm, fire!")
"Fire Flash!"
"Convoy Gun!"
"Fire Knuckle!"
"Trans Mine!"
"Kyodai Gattai! Super Fire Convoy!"
"Blizzard Storm!" (or "Blizzard Storm, fire!")
"Pulsar Cannon!"
"Enjin Tobihizageri!"
"Hakai Rocket-dan!"
Maybe parts of the theme song Honō no Overdrive ~Car Robot Cybertron~

God Magnus:
"God Magnus, Transform!"
"Magna Vulcan!"
"Magna Laser!"
"Hand Mine!"
"God Burst!"

God Fire Convoy:
"Chō Kyodai Gattai! God Fire Convoy!"
"God Laser!"
"God Vulcan!"
"God Fire!"
"Super God Sword!"

Among others.

News Credits: 3599 · by **Seibertron** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:04 am

Saw a few of you commenting about how Takara Car Robots Fire Convoy and God Magnus didn't have the tire splitting problem. They did! Some of my Fire Convoy's tires split and I replaced them with the identical looking tires from Hasbro's RID Optimus Prime. Just an FYI!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:26 am

Seibertron wrote:Saw a few of you commenting about how Takara Car Robots Fire Convoy and God Magnus didn't have the tire splitting problem. They did! Some of my Fire Convoy's tires split and I replaced them with the identical looking tires from Hasbro's RID Optimus Prime. Just an FYI!

Was wondering about that. Thanks for the clarification. ;)^

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:16 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Saw a few of you commenting about how Takara Car Robots Fire Convoy and God Magnus didn't have the tire splitting problem. They did! Some of my Fire Convoy's tires split and I replaced them with the identical looking tires from Hasbro's RID Optimus Prime. Just an FYI!
Was wondering about that. Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah, rubber tires sound good on paper because they carry nostalgia like die-cast metal (and offered protection from Shrapnel's lightning), but collectors and manufacturers should wake up and realize they suck for longevity, like we did about the gold plastic.

Someone around here mentioned that occasionally taking the tires off and soaking them in armor-all is a good solution, but I really hope this reissue inspires someone on Shapeways to make 2-piece snap-together plastic replicas to replace the real deal when they inevitably do the splits.

Regardless, I'll probably buy this reissue, due to the condition my RID leaders are in.