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Postby steals_your_goats » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:27 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Legends Blurr is gorgeous, easily the Blurr we deserve (which of course means hasbro isn't going to paint theirs worth a d@mn)

Come on man let it go. That horse has died, decomposed, been reincarnated, lived a full life and died again. You can stop beating it now.
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Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:34 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Legends Blurr is gorgeous, easily the Blurr we deserve (which of course means hasbro isn't going to paint theirs worth a d@mn)

Come on man let it go. That horse has died, decomposed, been reincarnated, lived a full life and died again. You can stop beating it now.


:lol:

Get used to it. Hellscream isn't gonna let go what he doesn't like.

Just went back and looked again at the vehicle mode for LG Blurr. It looks really striking! I kinda forgot how good it looked.

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I just wish the gun was silver like the Hasbro one. :(
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:21 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Legends Blurr is gorgeous, easily the Blurr we deserve (which of course means hasbro isn't going to paint theirs worth a d@mn)

Come on man let it go. That horse has died, decomposed, been reincarnated, lived a full life and died again. You can stop beating it now.


:lol:

Get used to it. Hellscream isn't gonna let go what he doesn't like.

Just went back and looked again at the vehicle mode for LG Blurr. It looks really striking! I kinda forgot how good it looked.

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I just wish the gun was silver like the Hasbro one. :(

My grudges are eternal. But, I had to go back and look at the hasbro gun, they actually molded it in blue plastic, and painted it silver, maybe they thought a blue gun would be too much blue - the irony is painful :HEADHURTS:

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Legends Blurr is gorgeous, easily the Blurr we deserve (which of course means hasbro isn't going to paint theirs worth a d@mn)

He's the Blurr the fan base deserves, just not the one it's going to get right now.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:34 pm

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Since much of the line takes some cues from the base molds (i.e UM and PM Prime) engineering, is it possible to feminize Blurr into Elita-1? Her Headmaster could be called Ariel.

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Her transform mode in the G1 show kinda reminds me of Blurr too.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:41 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Since much of the line takes some cues from the base molds (i.e UM and PM Prime) engineering, is it possible to feminize Blurr into Elita-1? Her Headmaster could be called Ariel.

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Her transform mode in the G1 show kinda reminds me of Blurr too.

I don't really see why not, it looks the part in vehicle mode, and the bot mode has a slightly feminine feel to it, there's been rumblings about a nautica from blurr, so why not more fembots? I'm game ;)^
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:57 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Since much of the line takes some cues from the base molds (i.e UM and PM Prime) engineering, is it possible to feminize Blurr into Elita-1? Her Headmaster could be called Ariel.

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Her transform mode in the G1 show kinda reminds me of Blurr too.

I don't really see why not, it looks the part in vehicle mode, and the bot mode has a slightly feminine feel to it, there's been rumblings about a nautica from blurr, so why not more fembots? I'm game ;)^


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:59 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Since much of the line takes some cues from the base molds (i.e UM and PM Prime) engineering, is it possible to feminize Blurr into Elita-1? Her Headmaster could be called Ariel.

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Her transform mode in the G1 show kinda reminds me of Blurr too.

I don't really see why not, it looks the part in vehicle mode, and the bot mode has a slightly feminine feel to it, there's been rumblings about a nautica from blurr, so why not more fembots? I'm game ;)^


If they remold it like Victorion's individual bots as far as having thinner arms and all that jazz, I'd be all for it too. ;)^ I just hope they retool the pelvis, hip, and feet sections a bit too. However, I am not sure how they'd make a fake head section on top for her since hers was kinda big, and it's supposed to fit in the legs. Also, I am not sure how they'd do the chest section for robot mode. Maybe they'll retool that section altogether, so that the windshield section is part of the sled piece, and the car roof section attached to the windscreen becomes the breast section? It'd be best if she doesn't have a windscreen for a chest.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:59 pm

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Takara Tomy's version of TR/TL Blurr is almost complete perfection, like he walked right out of the Sunbow cartoon and into our Classics collection. Beautiful!

Since he's already been retooled into Brainstorm, and another retool of Blurr as Nautica from IDW is likely on the horizon, I'm hesitant to get behind yet ANOTHER retool for Elita-1, though it does look like a fantastic opportunity, given her onscreen alt mode from the original cartoon. Maybe, if Nautica turns out to be an extensive retool, to the point that very few parts are shared at all, like we've seen with some of the better CW/UW molds (for instance, Rook and Swindle), I'd get behind another use of the same base "skeleton" to get one more iconic female Transformers character in the mix.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:03 pm

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grimdragon2001 wrote:ok, so it looks like the Takara Twincast titanmaster is actually blue. nice touch
Oh snap, your pointing that out just made me realize something brilliant (that is, if the brilliant thing turns out to actually be true).

Takara Broadcast's Headmaster being Twincast in blue makes a whole lot of sense for the Japanese G1 cartoon continuity since Broadcast had died and got rebuilt as Twincast in The Headmasters cartoon, but then later in the Japanese G-2 fiction, he's seen in one image as having reverted back to his original Blaster color scheme for reasons unknown. Not only that, but his head design got changed into more resembling his visor-eyed Marvel G1 head design.

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An out-of-universe reason for this new look could be that, like the pre-G2 designs of Optimus and Megatron seen in this pic, this design was meant to represent the Action Master Blaster toy, and the Marvel-esque head design likely came from artist Hidetsugu Yoshioka having been a fan of the Marvel G1 comics (which he had access to via specialty import shops in Japan back then).

But, while that's all fine and dandy from a real world perspective, there was never any in-universe explanation given for how Twincast got turned back into Broadcast... until now! Or at least, there's now potential for an explanation! And knowing the kind of continuity nut Hayato Sakamoto is, I can fully see him using Legends Broadcast as the means to show how Twincast went back to being Broadcast.

I speculate that the explanation might be that Twincast got turned into a Headmaster (meaning he got smaller), then got a new Transtector body for him to bond with and become the head of, and said Transtector not only sported his original Broadcast colors but just happened to also have a visor-eyed helmet. Granted, it's not exactly the same as the one he had in the above G-2 image, but it's a step in the right direction that could lead him to having that visor.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:04 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Takara Tomy's version of TR/TL Blurr is almost complete perfection, like he walked right out of the Sunbow cartoon and into our Classics collection. Beautiful!

Since he's already been retooled into Brainstorm, and another retool of Blurr as Nautica from IDW is likely on the horizon, I'm hesitant to get behind yet ANOTHER retool for Elita-1, though it does look like a fantastic opportunity, given her onscreen alt mode from the original cartoon. Maybe, if Nautica turns out to be an extensive retool, to the point that very few parts are shared at all, like we've seen with some of the better CW/UW molds (for instance, Rook and Swindle), I'd get behind another use of the same base "skeleton" to get one more iconic female Transformers character in the mix.

I mean, if the mold fits, and it's a great mold... It fits the vehicle mode already, and the bot mode is already kind of feminine, so I'd take a few fembots from it... but that's not to say that new molds wouldn't be amazing too...
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:09 pm

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To be honest, I actually think Hasbro's Blaster looks better in some ways that Takara's. Most of it is the head, which I like better on Hasbro's with the silver instead of white paint, but I also think the toy-accurate colors on Hasbro's goes better with the toy-accurate molding of both of the versions. The g1 cartoony look on the g1 toy molding of the Takara one just doesn't sit right with me. If he had a more cartoon-accurate head, I'd probably like it more.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:48 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Since much of the line takes some cues from the base molds (i.e UM and PM Prime) engineering, is it possible to feminize Blurr into Elita-1? Her Headmaster could be called Ariel.

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Her transform mode in the G1 show kinda reminds me of Blurr too.

I don't really see why not, it looks the part in vehicle mode, and the bot mode has a slightly feminine feel to it, there's been rumblings about a nautica from blurr, so why not more fembots? I'm game ;)^


If they remold it like Victorion's individual bots as far as having thinner arms and all that jazz, I'd be all for it too. ;)^ I just hope they retool the pelvis, hip, and feet sections a bit too. However, I am not sure how they'd make a fake head section on top for her since hers was kinda big, and it's supposed to fit in the legs. Also, I am not sure how they'd do the chest section for robot mode. Maybe they'll retool that section altogether, so that the windshield section is part of the sled piece, and the car roof section attached to the windscreen becomes the breast section? It'd be best if she doesn't have a windscreen for a chest.



Give her some curves like Roadrage then put the windshield behind her not in front plus a "headmaster" figure so as to allow more space for the base body (her head is more triangular than Blurr)

If there are plans for Nautica, why not Elita? After the disappointment from the non release of Artstorm's non transforming Elita maybe TT or Hb should at least put this in the "molds to consider checklist" :PRAY:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Seibertron » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:29 pm

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Takara's Blurr for the win. Hasbro's Blaster for the win by a long shot. What's up with all of that white on Blaster? Ack!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:41 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Takara's Blurr for the win. Hasbro's Blaster for the win by a long shot. What's up with all of that white on Blaster? Ack!

I think I'm in the same boat. I have some hesitations with the Blurr mold in general, and the deco Hasbro gave it doesn't help. Takara wins there. But I also like Hasbro Blaster's paint job quite a good bit more than Tak's. Especially his grey legs.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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Seibertron wrote:What's up with all of that white on Blaster? Ack!


What else? Cartoon accuracy! :-D
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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Takara's Blurr is gorgeous. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

Takara's Blaster looks a lot better than the Hasbro one too (if not as a big a change as Blurr). I may actually be tempted. Just wish he was smaller. The base mode looks bad.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:10 am

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What white are you guys talking about that's bothersome on Broadcast/Blaster? All I see is his face (a lot of which is covered by his mask anyway) and the fake cassette tray thing that isn't even visible in robot or boombox mode.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:15 am

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Elita-1 from Blur? No, thanks. They may share a similar vehicle mode, but the robot mode (which is more important) is totally different. And not just in a "hyper feminized" way, she just doesn't look like Blur in bot mode. I'd like to see a higher standard than just another slight remould. That's one thing about Combiner Wars that bugged me - too many remoulds.

TBH, I'd like to see Elita's whole team as new moulds. Ones actually meant to be them and not hand-me-downs. Wheelie got his own mould. Hot Rod got his own mould. I can compromise and say that, since they're a unit, maybe they all share a mould, but I'd rather Hasbro put more effort into their toys and make them 100% unique.

Also ... more female Decepticons. But this isn't a total wish list thread.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:36 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Takara's Blurr for the win. Hasbro's Blaster for the win by a long shot. What's up with all of that white on Blaster? Ack!


Same here. Hasbro's for the win. The G1 cartoon colors of the Takara one just doesn't fit the G1 toy homaging head-sculpt. Hasbro's Blaster wins by a long-shot I think. I also am a huge updated G1 toy fan, and don't particularly care that much for the cartoon versions a lot of times, even though that Takara Blurr is catching my eye pretty well. I love the G! toy look for both Hasbro's Blaster, and their Soundwave. They just look brilliant. Also, Ryan can have an updated Lost-and-Found Soundwave! :D
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Postby william-james88 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:44 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Takara's Blurr for the win. Hasbro's Blaster for the win by a long shot. What's up with all of that white on Blaster? Ack!


Same here. Hasbro's for the win. The G1 cartoon colors of the Takara one just doesn't fit the G1 toy homaging head-sculpt. Hasbro's Blaster wins by a long-shot I think. I also am a huge updated G1 toy fan, and don't particularly care that much for the cartoon versions a lot of times, even though that Takara Blurr is catching my eye pretty well. I love the G! toy look for both Hasbro's Blaster, and their Soundwave. They just look brilliant. Also, Ryan can have an updated Lost-and-Found Soundwave! :D

I will be getting Hasbro's Blaster as well. Not that Takara's isnt nice but both seem as interesting and special in their own way and Hasbro's is more affordable for me.
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Hellscream9999 wrote:Legends Blurr is gorgeous, easily the Blurr we deserve (which of course means hasbro isn't going to paint theirs worth a d@mn)


Hasbro's version is a very nice homage to the original toy, but I think more people were longing for the cartoon accurate appearance. Both are good for what they are.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Legends Blurr is gorgeous, easily the Blurr we deserve (which of course means hasbro isn't going to paint theirs worth a d@mn)


Hasbro's version is a very nice homage to the original toy, but I think more people were longing for the cartoon accurate appearance. Both are good for what they are.


If Takara wanted to go for the cartoon look, they should've at LEAST retooled the helmet for Blaster to not have the mask. >:oP

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:52 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:If Takara wanted to go for the cartoon look, they should've at LEAST retooled the helmet for Blaster to not have the mask. >:oP
Except, Takara isn't treating this as Blaster's cartoon body, but instead as a new body he got after the cartoon.

And I've already explained/speculated as to what Takara might use the visor helmet for.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:44 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:If Takara wanted to go for the cartoon look, they should've at LEAST retooled the helmet for Blaster to not have the mask. >:oP
Except, Takara isn't treating this as Blaster's cartoon body, but instead as a new body he got after the cartoon.

And I've already explained/speculated as to what Takara might use the visor helmet for.


Yeah but most people are going to just see it as the G1 toy with the G1 cartoon colors. Who not go with one version?
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