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Sabrblade wrote:My idea was to prevent the new toy from needing to be the fully robotic one since the toy will most likely have some physical differences from how Overlord looked in the cartoons, and we know that the fully robotic one keeps his Masterforce cartoon look for his brief appearances in Victory.Kurona wrote:Or, heck... this is the fully-robotic Overlord that emerged at the end of Masterforce after his two Godmasters died, and he goes through the Headmaster process because he meets up with Skullsmasher and Soundblaster and Tarantulas and that.
So if the new Legends version was a separate entity, that would allow the fully robotic one to not need to undergo a body change that he'd have to switch back out of for pre-established continuity's sake.
Sakamoto takes the visual differences between the new toys and the cartoon models to heart, having explained every one of the new toys as either being new body upgraded forms for preexisting characters or as symptoms of "Transformers sickness" for the residents of the Legends universe.King Kuuga wrote:Sabrblade wrote:My idea was to prevent the new toy from needing to be the fully robotic one since the toy will most likely have some physical differences from how Overlord looked in the cartoons, and we know that the fully robotic one keeps his Masterforce cartoon look for his brief appearances in Victory.Kurona wrote:Or, heck... this is the fully-robotic Overlord that emerged at the end of Masterforce after his two Godmasters died, and he goes through the Headmaster process because he meets up with Skullsmasher and Soundblaster and Tarantulas and that.
So if the new Legends version was a separate entity, that would allow the fully robotic one to not need to undergo a body change that he'd have to switch back out of for pre-established continuity's sake.
Couldn't one just view it as looking at the same character through different lenses, as it were? Like how we see different artists draw the same character from the same model in their own distinct style in the comics. Unlike with some other toys, it doesn't seem to me that Overlord is going to necessitate the explanation for his modernized body.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Probably makes the change from one body form to the next easier to swallow if they look as closely similar to one another while still being completely different on the whole.Kurona wrote:That always felt really weird to me. Takara goes to all this effort to make sure the toys are painted (and sometimes molded) in the most cartoon-accurate way humanly possible... just for the comics to turn around and say that's not their cartoon bodies. I understand why but it's always kind of odd to me
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Probably makes the change from one body form to the next easier to swallow if they look as closely similar to one another while still being completely different on the whole.Kurona wrote:That always felt really weird to me. Takara goes to all this effort to make sure the toys are painted (and sometimes molded) in the most cartoon-accurate way humanly possible... just for the comics to turn around and say that's not their cartoon bodies. I understand why but it's always kind of odd to me
Heh, if Takara had been the ones responsible for the Transmetal upgrades in Beast Wars instead of Kenner/Hasbro, I could imagine them going out of their way to maintain the same color schemes as each characters' season 1 bodies on the Transmetal and Transmetal 2 ones.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Huh, there are more sculpting differences than I originally thought:
- Titan Master face
- Chest plate
- Lower arms + panels
- Hip pieces
- Feet
That said, I don't like face plates over face plates
Kurona wrote:Also the cab and guns
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kurona wrote:Also the cab and guns
The cab too?May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kurona wrote:Also the cab and guns
The cab too?May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kurona wrote:Also the cab and guns
The cab too?May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:that legends Astrotrain train mode looks so much better with that paint. wow
Overcracker wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.
That depends on what you considered cheap. I pre-ordered him for $54 dollars, which is less than $10 bucks more than the msrp for Powermaster Prime.
I consider that a pretty good price.
Though at this point, it probably will be harder to find at that price.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:On a related note, I know we like our pre-orders nice and early, but I wonder if it would be better for retailers to hold off on ordering figures like this when the Yen is strong, and waited, a gamble I know, but, just a thought. Seems like the really high prices of some of these figures is driving a lot of people to import sites right now...
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