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[King Kuuga]

Or, heck... this is the fully-robotic Overlord that emerged at the end of Masterforce after his two Godmasters died, and he goes through the Headmaster process because he meets up with Skullsmasher and Soundblaster and Tarantulas and that.

My idea was to prevent the new toy from needing to be the fully robotic one since the toy will most likely have some physical differences from how Overlord looked in the cartoons, and we know that the fully robotic one keeps his Masterforce cartoon look for his brief appearances in Victory.

So if the new Legends version was a separate entity, that would allow the fully robotic one to not need to undergo a body change that he'd have to switch back out of for pre-established continuity's sake.

Couldn't one just view it as looking at the same character through different lenses, as it were? Like how we see different artists draw the same character from the same model in their own distinct style in the comics. Unlike with some other toys, it doesn't seem to me that Overlord is going to necessitate the explanation for his modernized body.

[Sabrblade]

Or, heck... this is the fully-robotic Overlord that emerged at the end of Masterforce after his two Godmasters died, and he goes through the Headmaster process because he meets up with Skullsmasher and Soundblaster and Tarantulas and that.

My idea was to prevent the new toy from needing to be the fully robotic one since the toy will most likely have some physical differences from how Overlord looked in the cartoons, and we know that the fully robotic one keeps his Masterforce cartoon look for his brief appearances in Victory.

So if the new Legends version was a separate entity, that would allow the fully robotic one to not need to undergo a body change that he'd have to switch back out of for pre-established continuity's sake.

Couldn't one just view it as looking at the same character through different lenses, as it were? Like how we see different artists draw the same character from the same model in their own distinct style in the comics. Unlike with some other toys, it doesn't seem to me that Overlord is going to necessitate the explanation for his modernized body.

Sakamoto takes the visual differences between the new toys and the cartoon models to heart, having explained every one of the new toys as either being new body upgraded forms for preexisting characters or as symptoms of "Transformers sickness" for the residents of the Legends universe.

The Shockwave & Cancer prologue comic even showed God Ginrai in his cartoon model form looking at hologram blueprints of the new Super Ginrai design based on its Legends toy.

[Kurona]

That always felt really weird to me. Takara goes to all this effort to make sure the toys are painted (and sometimes molded) in the most cartoon-accurate way humanly possible... just for the comics to turn around and say that's not their cartoon bodies. I understand why but it's always kind of odd to me

[Sabrblade]

That always felt really weird to me. Takara goes to all this effort to make sure the toys are painted (and sometimes molded) in the most cartoon-accurate way humanly possible... just for the comics to turn around and say that's not their cartoon bodies. I understand why but it's always kind of odd to me

Probably makes the change from one body form to the next easier to swallow if they look as closely similar to one another while still being completely different on the whole.

Heh, if Takara had been the ones responsible for the Transmetal upgrades in Beast Wars instead of Kenner/Hasbro, I could imagine them going out of their way to maintain the same color schemes as each characters' season 1 bodies on the Transmetal and Transmetal 2 ones.

[Kurona]

That always felt really weird to me. Takara goes to all this effort to make sure the toys are painted (and sometimes molded) in the most cartoon-accurate way humanly possible... just for the comics to turn around and say that's not their cartoon bodies. I understand why but it's always kind of odd to me

Probably makes the change from one body form to the next easier to swallow if they look as closely similar to one another while still being completely different on the whole.

Heh, if Takara had been the ones responsible for the Transmetal upgrades in Beast Wars instead of Kenner/Hasbro, I could imagine them going out of their way to maintain the same color schemes as each characters' season 1 bodies on the Transmetal and Transmetal 2 ones.

Can't say I'd mind Primal keeping his awesome colour scheme throughout.

Purple Dragon, though...

[Cyberpath]

Cool Legends fanart by @tajima_0109 --

[King Kuuga]

Okay THAT is some awesome art.

[Cyberpath]

Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

[Va'al]

From the official Takara Tomy Transformers Twitter account, we have two new images of figures from their Legends line. One is LG40 Astrotrain, featuring a different, darker colour palette than his Hasbro Titans Return counterpart, but still triple-changing and Titan Mastering. The other is LG35, Super Ginrai, in comparison with the Hasbro Powermaster Prime Leader toy. You can check both images mirrored below!

[Solrac333]

Seriously, I don't get why Hasbro can just paint the figures like that.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

Huh, there are more sculpting differences than I originally thought:

- Titan Master face
- Chest plate
- Lower arms + panels
- Hip pieces
- Feet

That said, I don't like face plates over face plates

[Kurona]

Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

Huh, there are more sculpting differences than I originally thought:

- Titan Master face
- Chest plate
- Lower arms + panels
- Hip pieces
- Feet

That said, I don't like face plates over face plates

Also the cab and guns

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Also the cab and guns

The cab too? May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left

[Overcracker]

Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.

That depends on what you considered cheap. I pre-ordered him for $54 dollars, which is less than $10 bucks more than the msrp for Powermaster Prime.

I consider that a pretty good price.

Though at this point, it probably will be harder to find at that price.

[Hellscream9999]

Also the cab and guns

The cab too? May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left

[Supreme Convoy]

Also the cab and guns

The cab too? May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left

Oh wow. I was considering buying the Hasbro version but now that I see the Takara one, I'll probably be getting that one since it's closer to the one I had as a kid.

And I've always wanted Godbomber. So I guess the new Godbomber only works with Ginrai.

[Emerje]

Also the cab and guns

The cab too? May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left

Not the whole cab, just the front "doors" that swing open to expose the cockpit giving it a new front end. Though it is still a different cab from Ultra Magnus.

Emerje

[D-Maximal_Primal]

that legends Astrotrain train mode looks so much better with that paint. wow

[triKlops]

that legends Astrotrain train mode looks so much better with that paint. wow

Totally agree; I will be keeping an eye on Amazon.jp for him if his price takes a dip.
MSRP I can't justify, as I have the Hasbro version, but if a deal pops up, I could bite.

[X3ROhour]

Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

y?
why?
why does the Tak version
have to b the superior
and so much more
expensive
version?

Y?!

[X3ROhour]

Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.

That depends on what you considered cheap. I pre-ordered him for $54 dollars, which is less than $10 bucks more than the msrp for Powermaster Prime.

I consider that a pretty good price.

Though at this point, it probably will be harder to find at that price.

what?
where?

[fenrir72]

Cool Legends fanart by @tajima_0109 --

Amazin!

[Hellscream9999]

Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

y?
why?
why does the Tak version
have to b the superior
and so much more
expensive
version?

Y?!

Why is it expensive? Because they basically created a new figure out of the mold and painted the crap out of it (and the yen was strong when the online retailers put their orders in for him)

On a related note, I know we like our pre-orders nice and early, but I wonder if it would be better for retailers to hold off on ordering figures like this when the Yen is strong, and waited, a gamble I know, but, just a thought. Seems like the really high prices of some of these figures is driving a lot of people to import sites right now...

[william-james88]

On a related note, I know we like our pre-orders nice and early, but I wonder if it would be better for retailers to hold off on ordering figures like this when the Yen is strong, and waited, a gamble I know, but, just a thought. Seems like the really high prices of some of these figures is driving a lot of people to import sites right now...

I am not sure they could afford that. They could potentially be losing preorders to others who do have it up earlier and all that for just the chance that it might be cheaper later.

What they should do instead is stock on yen when its low and then use it to buy these toys later but they probably dont have enough cash lieing around to do that either. In the end, I think the system they have in place is fine since its predictable and in the end, fans go to these import sites because they dont want to have to worry about importing it themselves so their core customers wouldnt try to import it themselves anyway.

Anyways, looking at the pic of the two of them side by side, I like what Hasbro did, I just wish they had a better grey plastic. Takara's legs are just so off in every which way.