The Energon Pub

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:11 am

Gorgeous piece right there. The versions of the mold with black have really looked good

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:25 am

Oh my, that looks delicious. If I get any version of that mold it'll be that.

by **StJudeDad** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:08 am

I agree that this color scheme fits this figure particularly well. What I would love to see, and maybe it will happen with the next line after Titans Return is a true Rodimus Prime. We're getting all of these Season 3 Gen 1 figures, which is great, and I'm enjoying them immensely, but a unique non-redeco'd Rodimus Prime would be outstanding. It wouldn't have to be a leader class, although I would buy that in a heartbeat, but something that gives the character it's well deserved due.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:09 am

Black Hat wrote:Oh my, that looks delicious. If I get any version of that mold it'll be that.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why Hasbro can't just give us a random Nemesis Prime every now and then, especially since they're the one's that made the character up in Armada... seriously, they're so enthusiastic on redeco's, why not give us a cool one like this, instead of re-issuing that crappy galvatron figure :SICK:

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:14 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Oh my, that looks delicious. If I get any version of that mold it'll be that.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why Hasbro can't just give us a random Nemesis Prime every now and then, especially since they're the one's that made the character up in Armada... seriously, they're so enthusiastic on redeco's, why not give us a cool one like this, instead of re-issuing that crappy galvatron figure

Maybe Warden's team doesn't have the same love for black Optimus redecos that Archer's team had?

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:15 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Oh my, that looks delicious. If I get any version of that mold it'll be that.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why Hasbro can't just give us a random Nemesis Prime every now and then, especially since they're the one's that made the character up in Armada... seriously, they're so enthusiastic on redeco's, why not give us a cool one like this, instead of re-issuing that crappy galvatron figure
Maybe Warden's team doesn't have the same love for black Optimus redecos that Archer's team had?

yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care :-P

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:16 am

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Oh my, that looks delicious. If I get any version of that mold it'll be that.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why Hasbro can't just give us a random Nemesis Prime every now and then, especially since they're the one's that made the character up in Armada... seriously, they're so enthusiastic on redeco's, why not give us a cool one like this, instead of re-issuing that crappy galvatron figure
Maybe Warden's team doesn't have the same love for black Optimus redecos that Archer's team had?

yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care

Sounds about right :roll:

News Credits: 194 · by **RodimusConvoy13** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:16 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Oh my, that looks delicious. If I get any version of that mold it'll be that.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why Hasbro can't just give us a random Nemesis Prime every now and then, especially since they're the one's that made the character up in Armada... seriously, they're so enthusiastic on redeco's, why not give us a cool one like this, instead of re-issuing that crappy galvatron figure
Maybe Warden's team doesn't have the same love for black Optimus redecos that Archer's team had?

What Galvatron are they reissuing?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:18 am

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Oh my, that looks delicious. If I get any version of that mold it'll be that.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why Hasbro can't just give us a random Nemesis Prime every now and then, especially since they're the one's that made the character up in Armada... seriously, they're so enthusiastic on redeco's, why not give us a cool one like this, instead of re-issuing that crappy galvatron figure
Maybe Warden's team doesn't have the same love for black Optimus redecos that Archer's team had?

What Galvatron are they reissuing?

They packed galvatron with alpha trion in a revision case, guess they over-produced galvatron mistakenly assuming people would buy that piece of crap, then no one did, so they decided to stuff a revision case with it, so it could shelfwarm even harder 8-}

by **RiddlerJ** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:23 pm

Oddly enough, I have no problem with this mold. Even the jet mode isn't as bad in person as I thought it would be. Octone's remolding makes it look even better.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:57 pm

william-james88 wrote:yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care

Tidal Wave ain't G1 either and he gets something...

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 pm

Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care

Tidal Wave ain't G1 either and he gets something...

Replace "isn't G1" with "isn't G1 or Armada", as Warden does seem to like Armada too.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:24 pm

Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care

Tidal Wave ain't G1 either and he gets something...

Yeah, that legitimately surprises me, that it's someone from armada and not someone g1 like flattop, maybe they want to keep the rights to the name tidalwave :-?

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:28 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care

Tidal Wave ain't G1 either and he gets something...
Replace "isn't G1" with "isn't G1 or Armada", as Warden does seem to like Armada too.

I thought Nemesis was Armada as well wasn't he?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, that legitimately surprises me, that it's someone from armada and not someone g1 like flattop, maybe they want to keep the rights to the name tidalwave

Yeah but who is asking for Flattop besides his 10 fans?

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:29 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care

Tidal Wave ain't G1 either and he gets something...
Replace "isn't G1" with "isn't G1 or Armada", as Warden does seem to like Armada too.

I thought Nemesis was Armada as well wasn't he?

Will said Scourge, though, not Nemesis.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:32 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Will said Scourge, though, not Nemesis.

Can we cheat and just say that their the same character with a different name you know like Optimus and Convoy eh?

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:35 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Will said Scourge, though, not Nemesis.

Can we cheat and just say that their the same character with a different name you know like Optimus and Convoy eh?

It's not a case of English vs. Japanese name. RiD 2001 and Armada aren't the same series.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:37 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care

Tidal Wave ain't G1 either and he gets something...
Replace "isn't G1" with "isn't G1 or Armada", as Warden does seem to like Armada too.

I thought Nemesis was Armada as well wasn't he?
Will said Scourge, though, not Nemesis.

They're both epic, cool, black repaints, so they're ostensibly the same thing in my eye's, besides Nemesis Prime is a way cooler character

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Will said Scourge, though, not Nemesis.

Can we cheat and just say that their the same character with a different name you know like Optimus and Convoy eh?
It's not a case of English vs. Japanese name. RiD 2001 and Armada aren't the same series.

Well yeah I know that but they are both black and teal Prime repaints was my logic hence me saying can we "cheat".

They could always call him "Grand Scourge" too.

News Credits: 2 · by **SureShot18** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Ooh, yes Takara. I'll probably end up with this version, since it looks so lovely.

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:46 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Will said Scourge, though, not Nemesis.

Can we cheat and just say that their the same character with a different name you know like Optimus and Convoy eh?
It's not a case of English vs. Japanese name. RiD 2001 and Armada aren't the same series.

Well yeah I know that but they are both black and teal Prime repaints was my logic hence me saying can we "cheat".

They could always call him "Grand Scourge" too.

Not when it's a G2 Laser OP body-type. That's RiD Scourge/CR Black Convoy. An Energon Optimus body-type would be Grand Scourge (like what we got with the UW figure). Nemesis would just be any other ordinary Optimus body-type, usually (lest there be any other specific exceptions out there, like a Lio Convoy body-type being Black Lio Convoy).

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:51 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Not when it's a G2 Laser OP body-type. That's RiD Scourge/CR Black Convoy. An Energon Optimus body-type would be Grand Scourge (like what we got with the UW figure). Nemesis would just be any other ordinary Optimus body-type, usually (lest there be any other specific exceptions out there, like a Lio Convoy body-type being Black Lio Convoy).

Just because it was in the past doesn't mean they have to do only what is bound in said past they could easily give Nemesis Prime the G2 body and no one would care.

This is why we can't have new things like Alpha Bravo and Rook.

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:56 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Will said Scourge, though, not Nemesis.

Can we cheat and just say that their the same character with a different name you know like Optimus and Convoy eh?

I dont think we can, not in the west. And in any case Scourge is far more synommous with RID than Armada since thats where he started.

As for Tidal Wave, he is in a boxset, not mass release. Just like G2 Prime which isnt G1 either. Of course, you could argue, "but why not put Scourge instead of G2 prime then" and thats a totally legit question. But I think Hasbro knew takara would do this, so they wanted to offer fans something different. Like that instead of choosing between 2 scourges (one from hasbro and one from takara), you can collect the same mold in 3 different colours. Hurray!

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:03 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Not when it's a G2 Laser OP body-type. That's RiD Scourge/CR Black Convoy. An Energon Optimus body-type would be Grand Scourge (like what we got with the UW figure). Nemesis would just be any other ordinary Optimus body-type, usually (lest there be any other specific exceptions out there, like a Lio Convoy body-type being Black Lio Convoy).

Just because it was in the past doesn't mean they have to do only what is bound in said past they could easily give Nemesis Prime the G2 body and no one would care.

On the contrary. People DO care. Back when this TR Voyager Optimus mold was first revealed, people saw its influence in the G2 Laser Optimus body and wanted it done as RiD Scourge/CR Black Convoy. Not Nemesis Prime, Scourge. Specifically the guy from RiD 2001/Car Robots cartoon. Because, unlike virtually every other guy ever called "Nemesis Prime" back, Scourge was a legit character, and a COOL one at that! He had focus, development, his own long-running arc and agenda. He was a full-fledged character, whereas a proceeding "Nemesis Primes" of the 2000s were less actual "characters" more just mere "concepts", evil black Optimus Prime lookalikes made for the sake of it.

You can color any old Optimus Prime toy and call it "Nemesis Prime" all you want, but anytime there's a new toy based directly on G2 Laser Optimus Prime, any evil black redeco of that has GOT to be Scourge and it's got to look like Scourge, cuz that's his look, and he makes it look so good. 8-)

by **RiddlerJ** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:07 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:yeah, Scourge isnt in G1, so Warden doesnt care

Tidal Wave ain't G1 either and he gets something...
Replace "isn't G1" with "isn't G1 or Armada", as Warden does seem to like Armada too.

I thought Nemesis was Armada as well wasn't he?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, that legitimately surprises me, that it's someone from armada and not someone g1 like flattop, maybe they want to keep the rights to the name tidalwave

Yeah but who is asking for Flattop besides his 10 fans?