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Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:57 am

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fenrir72 wrote:This issue forced me to open my 'con fatale set. Blackwidow has no issues (thank Primus), love Nightbird and Slipstream (though I have a hard time getting the latter to stand)

Just one complaint, Slipstream's head, why didn't TT paint her head full black? Leaving the other half unpainted does not make sense since her light piping gimmick is nullified because of the red paint on her optics. :???:


Just opened my Splitstream and I LOVE her! Colors are rich and the remoled poarts work very well. Her null rays are perfect too, except in vehicle mode. I would have prefered to clip them on the wings. And yeah, what's up with half of the head unpainted? As if she need it.

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Postby Agamemnon » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:48 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:05 am

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fenrir72 wrote:This issue forced me to open my 'con fatale set. Blackwidow has no issues (thank Primus),
By this do you mean that yours is not misassembled? :shock:

Can you post pics if so?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:38 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:This issue forced me to open my 'con fatale set. Blackwidow has no issues (thank Primus),
By this do you mean that yours is not misassembled? :shock:

Can you post pics if so?


Mine too, is pretty fine appart the neck gap. I blame a design error in the remolding.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:41 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:This issue forced me to open my 'con fatale set. Blackwidow has no issues (thank Primus),
By this do you mean that yours is not misassembled? :shock:

Can you post pics if so?


Mine too, is pretty fine appart the neck gap. I blame a design error in the remolding.
I'm talking about the torso misassembly that shadow panther wrote about on the previous two pages.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:49 am

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fenrir72 wrote:This issue forced me to open my 'con fatale set. Blackwidow has no issues (thank Primus), love Nightbird and Slipstream (though I have a hard time getting the latter to stand)

Just one complaint, Slipstream's head, why didn't TT paint her head full black? Leaving the other half unpainted does not make sense since her light piping gimmick is nullified because of the red paint on her optics. :???:


So blackwidow has the screw on her right chest piece? or can you push the chest piece to cover the gap just fine?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:52 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:This issue forced me to open my 'con fatale set. Blackwidow has no issues (thank Primus),
By this do you mean that yours is not misassembled? :shock:

Can you post pics if so?


Mine too, is pretty fine appart the neck gap. I blame a design error in the remolding.


There shouldnt be a neck gap. The shoulders should look like this, with the chest plate covering them fully:

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:15 am

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william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:This issue forced me to open my 'con fatale set. Blackwidow has no issues (thank Primus),
By this do you mean that yours is not misassembled? :shock:

Can you post pics if so?


Mine too, is pretty fine appart the neck gap. I blame a design error in the remolding.


There shouldnt be a neck gap. The shoulders should look like this, with the chest plate covering them fully:

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However, the placement of the chest screw cannot be changed. So, what's the fix? Is there an easier way to do it rather than removing pins and risking to destroy her?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:50 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
However, the placement of the chest screw cannot be changed. So, what's the fix? Is there an easier way to do it rather than removing pins and risking to destroy her?


No, but you can still move the chest piece up by forcing it:

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:58 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
However, the placement of the chest screw cannot be changed. So, what's the fix? Is there an easier way to do it rather than removing pins and risking to destroy her?


No, but you can still move the chest piece up by forcing it:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... gap/34204/


No wonder no one gets it. the thing is TIGHT as fok.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:06 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
However, the placement of the chest screw cannot be changed. So, what's the fix? Is there an easier way to do it rather than removing pins and risking to destroy her?


No, but you can still move the chest piece up by forcing it:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... gap/34204/


No wonder no one gets it. the thing is TIGHT as fok.
All thanks to the misassembled torso. :P
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby shadow panther » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:21 am

just be careful when forcing that chest piece up. Because of the misasemby the curvature of the torso is facing forward
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:31 am

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Here's a step-by-step guide on how to fix Blackarachnia:
1) Pop off all the limbs.

2) Unscrew the large torso screw under the left arm.

3) Unscrew the two small screws (one up top, one down at the bottom) on the back of waist piece.

4) Remove the waist piece.

5) Slide a small screwdriver or an X-Acto blade in pivoting section that was connected to the waist. It has a pin in it, but it's just there to keep it aligned properly and isn't knurled, so it should slide out easily as you wedge the piece apart.

6) Pull the two halves of the torso totally apart.
(NOTE: Here's the part that causes the problem- The large torso halves are swapped left-to-right, with a flatter side facing out when it should be underneath the spider face. Everything else stays in the same position.)

7) Set aside the head and spider face.

8 ) Hold your soldering iron on the center of the large rivet holding the spider legs in place. Be sure to stay on the center. DO NOT PRESS ON IT. Just let the rivet heat up all the way through. Depending on how hot your soldering iron gets, this may take a bit. Took about a minute or so on mine per rivet.

9) Grip the torso and pivoting section, then pull on the base of the spider legs hard. If you heated it up enough, it should give pretty quickly and the rivet will pop out. It is knurled, but it's also only about 3 or 4mm long.

10) Repeat on the other side.

11) Swap the torso halves. Double check since they look really similar at a glance.

12) Press the rivets back into place. You may or may not need to heat them up again if they can't just be pressed in with a screwdriver or something.

13) Put everything back together. The spider face should now slide up considerably higher, and the spider abdomen should now be able to easily fold up and slot into place above her hips and just below the spider legs, which the reversed torso prevented.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:37 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:18 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Here's a step-by-step guide on how to fix Blackarachnia:


They lost me at soldering iron


Me too. :(
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:23 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
LOST Cybertronian wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Here's a step-by-step guide on how to fix Blackarachnia:


They lost me at soldering iron


Me too. :(
Well, it's what shadow panther said to use earlier in this thread as well. There's no way around getting the rivets out of her torso without just permanently breaking the figure.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:23 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Here's a step-by-step guide on how to fix Blackarachnia:


They lost me at soldering iron


Yeah me too.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby MemphisR56 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:56 am

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Mine arrived last night, and my Black Widow weirdly seems to click into place much lower than the prototype images. I'm guessing mine's mis-assembled aswell. It does push up further to where it's shown in the official images, but it takes a damn sight more force than should be legal on clear plastic. A fair few people complained about dodgy rotations on the lower legs that didn't quite lock, and that the grapple hook didn't tab into the back or the abdomen tightly, but I've had no such issue, thankfully.

She looks great though, hanging out with Takara Generations Waspinator, and especially hanging out with Beast Wars Quickstrike, the transparent yellow-orange plastic comes out real nice. Finally took my junky TM2 Black Arachnia down from my Beast Wars display. She's up for sale if anybody's looking.

My Nightbird suffered a few QC problems as well. Her neck doesn't like to tab together properly, and she seems to have a lot of plastic flashing around the edge of the mantle/neck piece that is preventing it from rotating back all the way so that it stays clipped into the back of the torso with the tab on the back of the neck. I had to take a craft knife and try and gently shave it down a little, and it's much better now, but I've ended up with scratches in the silver paint on her bust :(. I modded the hands so she can hold her swords reverse grip. I realise I've probably devalued the figure by doing it, but after having scratched her paintwork, I didn't see that it mattered anymore.

Of the 3, I have to say that slipstream is my favourite though. She's much tighter everywhere than Takara Windblade was, especially in the heels. They've stayed in place and not slipped out once. She can convey a lot of sass when she's posed right. It's just a shame that posing her is limited somewhat by the neck and the hip joints. Her and Nightbird are now hanging out with my Season 3 and beyond Decepticons.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Knightsword » Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:24 pm

You don't need to heat the rivets to get them out, you can slowly pry them out and push them back in when reassembling.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:50 pm

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Just a little interesting tidbit I found out. All the new parts on the three retools are made from clear plastic then painted. For example Blackarachnia's head is painted clear plastic as well as the new chest on Slipstream. Just be careful because I broke a hand off my Supreme Mode Bumblebee which was all painted clear plastic.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:54 pm

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That's interesting, and rather puzzling. I don't know why Takara would chose to do that when it doesn't seem necessary.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:07 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:That's interesting, and rather puzzling. I don't know why Takara would chose to do that when it doesn't seem necessary.


Probably to save money. They probably gang molded all the new parts for the existing molds. Cheaper that way.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:19 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
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LOST Cybertronian wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Here's a step-by-step guide on how to fix Blackarachnia:


They lost me at soldering iron


Me too. :(
Well, it's what shadow panther said to use earlier in this thread as well. There's no way around getting the rivets out of her torso without just permanently breaking the figure.


It would be awesome if someone would make a clear video on how to do this.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:50 pm

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LOST Cybertronian wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
LOST Cybertronian wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Here's a step-by-step guide on how to fix Blackarachnia:


They lost me at soldering iron


Me too. :(
Well, it's what shadow panther said to use earlier in this thread as well. There's no way around getting the rivets out of her torso without just permanently breaking the figure.


It would be awesome if someone would make a clear video on how to do this.


All this talk made me decide against getting one. Is this a particularly bad problem? I mean is there really a huge hole in her chest?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:27 pm

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all this talk of heating up parts of a toy and essentially breaking it to fix it doesn't sound very nice. I hope this thing is more bearable in hand than people are making this out to be. :BOT:
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