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Alpha Weltall wrote:This is one that really is better looking than the Hasbro version. However, it's not twice the price better to me and I don't even have the TR version yet. I can get Blaster and PMOP for the price of this guy.
I'm getting Legends Blurr and Astrotrain and that's it so far. Mainly because I stupidly didn't preorder Scourge and Galvatron and now I regret it. I still want the TR version of each but I wanted the Legends versions as well. I also want the Legends deluxes that come with with little vehicles but the prices on those are a little higher than I'm comfortable with. I wish Takara would just release those separately.
Cyberpath wrote:Alpha Weltall wrote:This is one that really is better looking than the Hasbro version. However, it's not twice the price better to me and I don't even have the TR version yet. I can get Blaster and PMOP for the price of this guy.
I'm getting Legends Blurr and Astrotrain and that's it so far. Mainly because I stupidly didn't preorder Scourge and Galvatron and now I regret it. I still want the TR version of each but I wanted the Legends versions as well. I also want the Legends deluxes that come with with little vehicles but the prices on those are a little higher than I'm comfortable with. I wish Takara would just release those separately.
If it helps, Galvatron is still in-stock at HLJ:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86848/Sci
And Scourge is still available for pre-order:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86851/Sci
Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.
william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.
But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.
But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.
Worth it. It would be nice if Hasbro offered more than bottom of the barrel options. They would get more of my money.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
Compared to the original version of the mold, Hasbro's retooling of Ultra Magnus into Powermaster Optimus Prime seems far more extensive than Takara's retooling of Powermaster Optimus Prime into Super Ginrai. In the former case, Hasbro retooled nearly the entirety of the mold itself from head to ankle, with barely any common aspects left between Magnus and Prime. But with the latter case, Takara merely changed the cab/inner torso, the outer torso, the forearms, the Titan Master, and the feet, along with two gun accessories, with virtually everything else left unaltered and identical in molding between Prime and Ginrai.Ironhidensh wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.
But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.
Worth it. It would be nice if Hasbro offered more than bottom of the barrel options. They would get more of my money.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
In the year 2021, Fortress Maximus's Autobots clash with a returned Scorponok's Decepticons over a giant black hole that the Decepticon seeks to explode, hoping to destroy the Autobots and create plasma energy in one fell swoop. Accusing his nemesis of being mad with revenge, Fortress has his troops recover what explosives they can, only for Scorponok to detonate the rest with no concern for his own soldiers. Fortress sends Wheelie and their human friends to safety as the blast wave hits Autobots and Decepticons alike, shrinking their bodies into super deformed forms! An examination shows that being exposed to the exploding black holes has caused miniature black holes ("blackballs") to appear in their bodies, shrinking their mass and threatening to collapse the Autobots in on themselves if nothing is done.
The cassettes inside of Twincast prove to be unaffected and the Headmasters simply disconnect from their affected Transtectors, but the other Autobots are still in danger. Seeing no other option, Fortress has their heads removed and retrofitted into Headmasters as their bodies continue to shrink and eventually pop out of existence. In order to get everyone new bodies, he then suggests they visit the Legends Universe, recalling the creation of their comrades Roadbuster and Whirl. Having tracked the dimension's space-time coordinates from the two Wreckers' residual radiation, he sets out to travel there via solitarium straight away—because the battleship Maximus that makes up his body is also shrinking. As they depart, the Autobots wonder if the affected Decepticons have had the same idea, and indeed the Decepticon Headmasters have already reached the Legends Universe and struck a deal with Tera-Kura Co. scientist Tarantulas to make them new bodies. Furthermore, Tarantulas has his own scheme in mind, intending to use the Decepticons to conquer the world for himself!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:a lot of good stuff
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:Sabrblade wrote:a lot of good stuff
Bottom line, Hasbro can't even be bothered to paint rims. Might be a tiny detail, but one that matters to me a whole lot.
To me, Hasbro's headmaster prime isn't worth $50. Takara's is worth a hundred to me.
Ironhidensh wrote:Sabrblade wrote:a lot of good stuff
Bottom line, Hasbro can't even be bothered to paint rims. Might be a tiny detail, but one that matters to me a whole lot.
To me, Hasbro's headmaster prime isn't worth $50. Takara's is worth a hundred to me.
william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.
But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.
fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.
But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.
Maybe one factor that hasn't been mentioned is the Yen's appreciation? Iirc, there was the premise was that the cost of TFs in Japan are more or less at par with the Hb int'l releases?
Then comes the Yen's appreciation. Same thing happened back in the 80s too. Yen appreciated and all but killed the planed Robotech Sentinels series.
Hopefully the Yen will go back to its lower levels in a few months.
Kurona wrote:I kinda want those Thunderbirds.
ZeroWolf wrote:A bit late I know but super ginrai looks amazing, I want to get both takara and hasbro just so prime can shake ginrais hand.
Ironhidesh are you complaining about the west's modern business practices again? Where profit is god. I can understand comparing hasbro to takara, especially when they release the same products but I think the harsh words that some use on the hasbro forgets the scenario that the hasbro tf team find themselves in, I reckon the majority of the time they are trying their best with what they have
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
fenrir72 wrote:
I remember all the flack TT/UW Mixmaster got when Hb/TT altered his truck mode.
gavinfuzzy wrote:fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.
But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.
Maybe one factor that hasn't been mentioned is the Yen's appreciation? Iirc, there was the premise was that the cost of TFs in Japan are more or less at par with the Hb int'l releases?
Then comes the Yen's appreciation. Same thing happened back in the 80s too. Yen appreciated and all but killed the planed Robotech Sentinels series.
Hopefully the Yen will go back to its lower levels in a few months.
In Singapore, the retail price of a hasbro Titans Returns Leader figure is $99.9 SGD ($73.5 US). Hobby stores are asking ~$105-115 SGD (~$80US) for the takara LG version.
So yeah, I believe Takara's pricing for this figure is akin to hasbro's international retail.
Takara deluxes, on the other hand.... Even when you factor in the extra vehicle it comes with, it still is pretty pricey.
Ironhidensh wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:A bit late I know but super ginrai looks amazing, I want to get both takara and hasbro just so prime can shake ginrais hand.
Ironhidesh are you complaining about the west's modern business practices again? Where profit is god. I can understand comparing hasbro to takara, especially when they release the same products but I think the harsh words that some use on the hasbro forgets the scenario that the hasbro tf team find themselves in, I reckon the majority of the time they are trying their best with what they have
No, they aren't. They are try to find out how much we are willing to pay for as little as possible. To be fair to Hasbro, just as much if the blame falls on fans. If we weren't so willing to settle for so little, Hasbro would probally, maybe, try a little harder.
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