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[william-james88]

They say PMs unlock powers, but it's really just the same idea as Titan Masters giving figures powers. It's all imagination.

Emerje

John Warden has told us otherwise. He told us there is an actual physical unlocking.

[Wolfman Jake]

How do you feel about Prime Masters in Power of the Primes because that's all they are, just decorations? They say PMs unlock powers, but it's really just the same idea as Titan Masters giving figures powers. It's all imagination.

Emerje

There's a big difference with the Titan Masters, though. They give the figure a head it doesn't otherwise have. The "powers" thing is just imagination, yes, but the head they provide completes the figure and is a very practical use for that gimmick. The new Power Masters are a little more of a mixed bag, so we'll have to see. They do retain some of the Titan Master functionality, being able to ride around in Legends Class vehicles. However, they're just decoration for armor on Deluxe Class figures. It remains to be seen if they have any real functional use in the Leader Class figures. Right now, all we know is that they can become matrices for their chest compartments. Maybe that unlocks some transformation step like the Powermasters of old? Finally, we have the Voyager class. It's said that the Power Master figures will plug into their arms to "unlock" abilities/secrets/something or other. Hopefully HasCon will bring us some answers on the "Power Master Ecosystem."

[Hellscream9999]

Overlord looks lush, he's pre-ordered with ease and relish

BUT, I also intend to get hasbro's offering too, should be able to get him as well once he shows up for pre-order or on hts preferably

Why am I double dipping? Because I've always wanted a cool overlord ever since I saw a small picture of him in the back of a tf guide to figures when I was in junior high fifteen plus years ago.

I don't think the 'godmasters' are part of the torso, I think they are separate molds that might be glued into his torso or something similar, I don't think tt would remold two small parts on that large torso just for some extra molded detail, I seriously hope that they can come out though, just becuase I like the idea of storing a bunch of tms with cool powers in him...

[william-james88]

The fandom seems torn about the recent Takara Legends Overlord reveal and there are good arguments on both sides. While you weigh the pros and cons for each side (for those who are only getting one or the other of course), Takara has released official images through Takaratomymall for Legends LG-58 Clone bot set, LG-59 Blitzwing and LG-60 Overlord. This gives us the best look at Overlord's multiple faces but it has yet to answer if the added godmaster details in his chest are removeable.

Enjoy!

[Deadput]

I think the Elephant is supposed to be in Megatron colors...not sure what that homages too though.

I need one those nerdy Takara lore guys to back me up here!

[Randomhero]

I think the Elephant is supposed to be in Megatron colors...not sure what that homages too though.

I need one those nerdy Takara lore guys to back me up here!

My first thought was ravage colors

[Sabrblade]

Responding to multiple people at once.

You're seeing two Titan Masters - Giga and Mega - and two non-transforming Powermaster engines.

Yep. And each has a different face for Overlord. A male one called "Overlord Giga (male type)" and a female one called "Overlord Mega (female type)". Mega's face must be the lippy IDW version while Giga's is the more traditional/show-accurate one.

You know, first with Sixshot, and now with Overlord, I fail to see the exact reason for going the extra mile of retooling the helmet if they already have "enough" resemblance to whatever source material they used. TakaraTomy is usually pretty lenient with using the mold as is.

Maybe Takara just really doesn't like the big, flat, plain-looking foreheads of the Hasbro versions' helmets.

Then it struck me: if they're gonna create all-new Headmasters,

They're not just the Dreadnaut and Ominus molds?

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Takara: please stop using light shades of purple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are taking cartoon accuracy way too far.

And man, did they really miss the opportunity to do multiple faces with Blitzwing? I was really hoping for his bat-shit crazy face and his DC-Cyborg face from Animated. Urgh.

The purple doesn't bug me so much. It's a bit lighter, but not completely off base like Legends Galvatron. What stands out to me much more in the creamy yellow plastic used instead of the lighter beige of the G1 cartoon, the original toy, and Hasbro's new Titans Return version. It's just a bit too bright and saturated like the color of light brown they used for Legends Hardhead. It's not quite right, but it doesn't look "bad."

Someone at Takara seriously needs to readjust the color settings on their monitor.

They weren't gonna remove the Headmaster gimmick on Overlord. Period. We're well past the point of speculating that Takara would do that for any of the non-Headmaster toys.

It really wouldn't have been that hard to remove his Headmaster gimmick.

That's beside the point I was making. Of course they could have removed it, but they weren't going to.

They've already established that they have no intention of removing the Headmaster gimmick from the toys of characters who weren't originally Headmasters, and have also already established a whole story for how all/most of these characters have become Headmaster, with anyone else needing explanation having their Headmaster origin further added to the ongoing story.

[Randomhero]

I got TR overlord only a week and half ago but I ain't gonna lie i ordered legends as well. I can't wait for this. I think he looks great. The faces and new helmet sold me and while I Know it's an IDW thing only, I really wish the chest panels were the same dark blue as the chest. Not upset but that would have made my day.

Also if anyone is curious the tank and jet don't combine. It's just the chest plates folded out and using them to rest on the tank.

[Sabrblade]

I think the Elephant is supposed to be in Megatron colors...not sure what that homages too though.

I need one those nerdy Takara lore guys to back me up here!

My first thought was ravage colors

It's just Blitzwing's Partner Drone, whose name we don't know yet.

Though, other than Ape-X Arms and Broadside's Partner Drone, none of the Partner Drones have been colored to resemble anything other than the colors of the larger bot they've been paired with, so this elephant could just be colored the way it is simply because "it look cool".

[Randomhero]

I think the Elephant is supposed to be in Megatron colors...not sure what that homages too though.

I need one those nerdy Takara lore guys to back me up here!

My first thought was ravage colors

It's just Blitzwing's Partner Drone, whose name we don't know yet.

Though, other than Ape-X Arms and Broadside's Partner Drone, none of the Partner Drones have been colored to resemble anything other than the colors of the larger bot they've been paired with, so this elephant could just be colored the way it is simply because "it look cool".

Oh I'm not saying it's ravage just that those are his colors. It's not like it'll even have a name. None of the others do so far to my knowledge

[Emerje]

They say PMs unlock powers, but it's really just the same idea as Titan Masters giving figures powers. It's all imagination.

Emerje

John Warden has told us otherwise. He told us there is an actual physical unlocking.

I'm quoting John Warden from the video Ryan uploaded to YouTube. When he says that the Prime Masters unlock something in the figure he quickly adds "through kid's imagination" making it exactly the same as the Titan Masters unlocking powers. He talked about them unlocking the ability to combine in Dreadwind and Blackwing even though they don't really, they just sit on the extra part that hasn't been clearly shown. He said the Voyagers come with bucklers that go on the arms, but don't actually do anything there. He talked about them allowing the Leaders to evolve, but also said you put the Matrix in after, saying it's the "final piece".

Seriously, this isn't Armada or Cybertron, Prime Masters don't do anything.

Anyway, on topic, pre-orders are up at the Japanese sites. Only ordered Overlord, I don't really like the colors on the Clones or Blitzwing.

Emerje

[Deadput]

It's just Blitzwing's Partner Drone, whose name we don't know yet.

Though, other than Ape-X Arms and Broadside's Partner Drone, none of the Partner Drones have been colored to resemble anything other than the colors of the larger bot they've been paired with, so this elephant could just be colored the way it is simply because "it look cool".

It would be hilarious if Megatron is dying after some battle and to save him they have to stuff his spark in an Elephant (Not a real one!) and he's all angry but he can't talk and is just making Elephant noises.

But honestly what if this is some weird homage to DOTM where Megatron there has a scene with Elephants (he even kills one in the script) and back during DOTM there was a rumor that Blitzwing was in the movie based off a screenshot of what turned out to be a fan made film.

Takara just used G1 Megatron colors since Legends is based off G1 instead of movie colors.




This high grade energon that I bought off Swindle tastes funny

[Sabrblade]

It's not like it'll even have a name. None of the others do so far to my knowledge

All of the Partner Drones have had names.

[Randomhero]

They say PMs unlock powers, but it's really just the same idea as Titan Masters giving figures powers. It's all imagination.

Emerje

John Warden has told us otherwise. He told us there is an actual physical unlocking.

I'm quoting John Warden from the video Ryan uploaded to YouTube. When he says that the Prime Masters unlock something in the figure he quickly adds "through kid's imagination" making it exactly the same as the Titan Masters unlocking powers. He talked about them unlocking the ability to combine in Dreadwind and Blackwing even though they don't really, they just sit on the extra part that hasn't been clearly shown. He said the Voyagers come with bucklers that go on the arms, but don't actually do anything there. He talked about them allowing the Leaders to evolve, but also said you put the Matrix in after, saying it's the "final piece".

Seriously, this isn't Armada or Cybertron, Prime Masters don't do anything.

Anyway, on topic, pre-orders are up at the Japanese sites. Only ordered Overlord, I don't really like the colors on the Clones or Blitzwing.

Emerje

I think you hit it there. The "unlocking" is the same as say twin twists titan master "unlocks" the ability to freeze t-cogs or preceptors "unlocks" mass displacement.

[Wolfman Jake]

Whew! The tan colored plastic and paint on these official Takara Tomy Mall pics make Blitzwing look much better. The purples used are also a bit darker than what we saw before. What are you thinking now, William-James? Still going Hasbro for darker purple and lighter beige, but with a purple face, wrong colored tank barrel, and crappy stickers? Or will you now get the Takara version with slightly lighter purple, slighter darker tan, non-purple face, and no crappy stickers?

Also, I thought of ONE reason why Takara might have retooled those chest flaps on Overlord. Perhaps they better hold on to the tank for their cartoon-accurate combined mode than the Hasbro ones? That's a feature that's more of an easter egg for Hasbro, but a MUST for Takara Tomy for this character, so it has to work well, not just "good enough."

[SureShot18]

Hmm...the only one that interests me out of the three is Blitzwing and he's a not quite enough of an upgrade for me. Tak Blitz has a more cohesive deco but the colors are a little too bright. I really wish at least the tan was darker. If it had extra Animated heads it would have been an instant preorder but as is I might not bother. Takara releases really have to wow me to spend the extra money. Speaking of which I need to get that Blurr re-release.

[Randomhero]

It's not like it'll even have a name. None of the others do so far to my knowledge

All of the Partner Drones have had names.

You're right I I had no idea. I figure they were just vehicles and such. Only legends figures I've gotten lately is Ginrai and Godbomber from this line with the gimmick. I can justify spending an amount on them due to their size but not $35-$50 on deluxe size ones.

[Prime Target]

They all look great I think the LG Cloudraker looks better than the TR one , Blitzwing gets rid of the dreaded stickers and just brightens up the overall paintjob and he looks all the better for it and Overlord ..... well I think this is what he should have been from the start = Masterforce accurate since Hasbro can't do an accurate IDW Overlord

[Randomhero]

Hmm...the only one that interests me out of the three is Blitzwing and he's a not quite enough of an upgrade for me. Tak Blitz has a more cohesive deco but the colors are a little too bright. I really wish at least the tan was darker. If it had extra Animated heads it would have been an instant preorder but as is I might not bother. Takara releases really have to wow me to spend the extra money. Speaking of which I need to get that Blurr re-release.

Blurr is totally worth it. I snagged him on eBay in box for $20 and I love him. I was gonna get hot rod and kup but canceled hot rod after POTP. I don't need a slew of hot rods.

[Deadput]

Still going Hasbro for darker purple and lighter beige, but with a purple face, wrong colored tank barrel, and crappy stickers? Or will you now get the Takara version with slightly lighter purple, slighter darker tan, non-purple face, and no crappy stickers?

[Randomhero]

They all look great I think the LG Cloudraker looks better than the TR one , Blitzwing gets rid of the dreaded stickers and just brightens up the overall paintjob and he looks all the better for it and Overlord ..... well I think this is what he should have been from the start = Masterforce accurate since Hasbro can't do an accurate IDW Overlord

It wasn't hasbros goal at all to do IDW overlord. They went straight for G1 toy overlord.

[Randomhero]

Still going Hasbro for darker purple and lighter beige, but with a purple face, wrong colored tank barrel, and crappy stickers? Or will you now get the Takara version with slightly lighter purple, slighter darker tan, non-purple face, and no crappy stickers?

Ditto X2

[Wolfman Jake]

Still going Hasbro for darker purple and lighter beige, but with a purple face, wrong colored tank barrel, and crappy stickers? Or will you now get the Takara version with slightly lighter purple, slighter darker tan, non-purple face, and no crappy stickers?

What?

[Emerje]

Heh, just thought of a Decepticon that's black, gray, and silver and has a tank mode that's similar to the elephant.


e-Hobby Magnificus


They wouldn't, would they?

Emerje

[Randomhero]

Heh, just thought of a Decepticon that's black, gray, and silver and has a tank mode that's similar to the elephant.


e-Hobby Magnificus


They wouldn't, would they?

Emerje

You are reaching with that