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News Credits: 28 · by **Jedi Kermit** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:04 am

Isn't the bumbs on Hot Rods lips common on the Titans Return version? Both of mine have them.

by **Rated X** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:00 am

Damn Hot Rod been doing something I dont wanna know...

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:06 am

Looks like someone punched him in the lip.

by **RodimusPrimal** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:40 am

This sucks! I was going to order this Takara HotRod but there is no way I'm going to now with the chance that I could receive Herpes HotRod. I guess I'll just have to wait until I see him at a convention and can inspect his lips myself. Can't believe it lol

by **RustedCross** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:58 am

Ok, so I was annoyed for a minute. Until I looked at my Hasbro version and realized it had the flaw as well. I never noticed it.. Granted it may show more on the Takara version, but I’m not as concerned now.

by **RodimusRex** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:21 am

Rated X wrote:Damn Hot Rod been doing something I dont wanna know...

That's what happens when you're a KISS Player.

8-)

News Credits: 4 · by **Relic0037** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:33 pm

So now I will have to look at the other Transformers on my shelf to see who Hot Lips Hot Rod caught his case of VD from.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:31 pm

OK, a bit more on the serious side, is this cosmetic problem due to molding, or an excess of paint?

News Credits: 28 · by **Jedi Kermit** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:25 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:OK, a bit more on the serious side, is this cosmetic problem due to molding, or an excess of paint?

It is molding. Both of my Titans Return Hot Rods have the same 2 bumps.

News Credits: 4 · by **Relic0037** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:22 pm

Just sent Roddy off to Doc Ratchet's office, so he should be able to keep his little problem under control.

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:26 am

I haven't checked yet but I wonder if Rodimus from the Chaos set suffered that same disgrace? :VEHI:

News Credits: 102 · by **Qwan** » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:00 am

Unlikely, since the Rodimus face is an entirely different mold to Hot Rod's. From a production standpoint, they're no more related than say, Hot Rod's and Sky Shadow's faces.

News Credits: 4 · by **Relic0037** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:34 am

Nemesis Destron wrote:I haven't checked yet but I wonder if Rodimus from the Chaos set suffered that same disgrace?

I thought about using my Rodimus head from the Chaos set as an alternative head option & he appears to have a paint chip on his upper lip. The color scheme difference also makes him a poor choice for legends Roddy, but if you have the Titans Return version, it could be an option.

by **LevelRage** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:59 am

Okay, so I decided to fix my own TR Kup figure and you don't need to use the saw to get the piece off. You can use the soddering iron technique that was talked about not to long ago to remove the pin and switch two panels with each other. Doesn't damage the figure and makes it easier to actually do. Just wanted to put that out there. :RUBSIGN:

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:02 am

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News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:03 am

Hey, they got Lione's colors right!

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:18 am

Very odd seeing Twin Twist and Topspin with the Car Targetmasters' partners. Gotta wonder what Takara and Hasbro have planned for Crosshairs, Sureshot, Pointblank, Fangry, Squeezeplay, Terri-Bull, Go Shooter, Minerva, Hosehead, Siren, Nightbeat, Snapdragon, Apeface, and Scorponok (though I have little hope for Grand Maximus and Black Zarak considering no proper recolors have been done of any of the Titan Class figures yet).

Edit: Modified 11 hours later to reflect the announcement of Grand Maximus. There's one down!

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:43 am

Seibertron wrote:Very odd seeing Twin Twist and Topspin with the Car Targetmasters' partners. Gotta wonder what Takara and Hasbro have planned for Crosshairs, Sureshot, Pointblank, Fangry, Squeezeplay, Terri-Bull, Go Shooter, Minerva, Hosehead, Siren, Nightbeat, Snapdragon, Apeface, and Scorponok (though I have little hope for Grand Maximus and Black Zarak considering no proper recolors have been done of any of the Titan Class figures yet).

yeah while Metrotitan, G2 Dev colors, Grand Max etc... would be awesome, those would definitely brake my wallet...

. Of any of them, I would think Gigastorm from Trypticon would be the least likely seeing as how the reason original Trypticon was used as the template was because he scaled well with the rest of the BWII line, and a larger bot to be sure, but not a Titan sized one.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:43 am

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:01 pm

So, yeah; looks like the only differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions this time are extremely minor details.

... oh, and full new-mold Targetmaster partners, of course.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:05 pm

ok, so this may not be the right place, and if someone could redirect me to the correct thread that would be great...but seeing the unused animation models for Topspin & Twintwist, I wonder if there has ever been a published reason why the Jumpstarters, Deluxe Insecticons, Roadbuster & Whirl never appeared in the animated series?

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:14 pm

o.supreme wrote:ok, so this may not be the right place, and if someone could redirect me to the correct thread that would be great...but seeing the unused animation models for Topspin & Twintwist, I wonder if there has ever been a published reason why the Jumpstarters, Deluxe Insecticons, Roadbuster & Whirl never appeared in the animated series?

Licensing reasons. They were originally from a rival company to Takara so Takara didn't want those figures advertised in their own series. I don't think those figures even got sold in Japan...

Didn't stop the comics from having them, though. The UK comics. The UK, where these toys were never sold...

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:22 pm

Kurona wrote:
o.supreme wrote:ok, so this may not be the right place, and if someone could redirect me to the correct thread that would be great...but seeing the unused animation models for Topspin & Twintwist, I wonder if there has ever been a published reason why the Jumpstarters, Deluxe Insecticons, Roadbuster & Whirl never appeared in the animated series?

Licensing reasons. They were originally from a rival company to Takara so Takara didn't want those figures advertised in their own series. I don't think those figures even got sold in Japan...

Didn't stop the comics from having them, though. The UK comics. The UK, where these toys were never sold...

That may have been the case for the others, but the Jumpstarters were Diaclone molds. They were the Baku-Ten Attack Robo toys.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:24 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
o.supreme wrote:ok, so this may not be the right place, and if someone could redirect me to the correct thread that would be great...but seeing the unused animation models for Topspin & Twintwist, I wonder if there has ever been a published reason why the Jumpstarters, Deluxe Insecticons, Roadbuster & Whirl never appeared in the animated series?

Licensing reasons. They were originally from a rival company to Takara so Takara didn't want those figures advertised in their own series. I don't think those figures even got sold in Japan...

Didn't stop the comics from having them, though. The UK comics. The UK, where these toys were never sold...
That may have been the case for the others, but the Jumpstarters were Diaclone molds. They were the Baku-Ten Attack Robo toys.

Maybe it was due to the KO copyright issues they were going through at the time? I'm not sure how that would dissuade Hasbro from putting them in the cartoon, but I've gotta imagine there's some sort of connection.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:33 pm

o.supreme wrote:ok, so this may not be the right place, and if someone could redirect me to the correct thread that would be great...but seeing the unused animation models for Topspin & Twintwist, I wonder if there has ever been a published reason why the Jumpstarters, Deluxe Insecticons, Roadbuster & Whirl never appeared in the animated series?

The Deluxe Insecticons, Roadbuster and Whirl and Jetfire for that matter are pretty obvious, as they are not by Takara, but by Takatoku Toys. To Takara, they're local competitor toys, which is also why they were not released as Transformers in Japan to avoid copyright and licensing trouble, not to mention "free advertising" of other people's product in the cartoon. In fact, the toys that would become Roadbuster and Whirl were featured in their own anime called Tokusou Kihei Dorvack. The deluxe Insections were originally from the line Kikou Chuutai Beetras, and probably would have been featured in their own anime as well, had Takatoku Toys not gone under and been bought up by Bandai. Jetfire needs no explaining, right?
To be complete, Shockwave, Omega Supreme and Sky Lynx are special cases as the first was originally from a Korean company and thus exempt via licensing loopholes, while the other two were commissioned though Tomy.

The Jumpstarters are harder to explain, especially since Takara never released them in Transformers at all.