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Postby Va'al » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:26 am

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Courtesy of site sponsor TFSource, we have news of the next figure in the Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece line - after MP-39 Sunstreaker, it looks like we'll have a third iteration of the younger leader of the Autobots: MP-40 Target Master Hot Rodimus!

Currently listed for a February release, and priced around 80-90 USD, we do not have any images for the toy. How it will differ from MP-28 is yet unknown, too, so stay tuned for more updates as they roll in!

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Transformers Masterpiece - MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus is the latest preorder from Takara Tomy. Image is a placeholder, official images and more details to come!


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Postby Burn » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:30 am

oh ffs ... that's just a cheap money grab given that it'll most likely just be a reissue with slight modifications to accommodate that Targetmaster. Very disappointed TT.
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Postby Windsweeper » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:40 am

Who transformed G1 Rodimus Prime and put the spoiler in the wrong hole so it's too low down?

It's as bad as someone leaving the nosecone up on G1 Dirge, Thrust and Ramjet to make them mirror the cartoon.
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Postby dragons » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:17 am

Windsweeper wrote:Who transformed G1 Rodimus Prime and put the spoiler in the wrong hole so it's too low down?

It's as bad as someone leaving the nosecone up on G1 Dirge, Thrust and Ramjet to make them mirror the cartoon.


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Postby Burn » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:43 am

Enough about the photo of the G1 toys. This is about MP-40. sheesh, didn't take you guys long to derail a thread did it? :roll:
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Postby Decepticon Stryker » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:55 am

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Are we gonna ignore the fact that Rodimus is now Movie Optimus Prime according to that silhouette? :-P
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Postby Va'al » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:00 am

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Decepticon Stryker wrote:Are we gonna ignore the fact that Rodimus is now Movie Optimus Prime according to that silhouette? :-P


Given that it's a placeholder, yeah!
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Postby frogbat » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:35 am

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What can we surmise form he Japanese price? is it similar to the mp28 price or is it closer to the larger MP's?

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Postby Kurona » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:42 am

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For a direct comparison, TFSource has MP-28 Hot Rod listed at 75 USD compared to MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rod listed at 90 USD.

I doubt this increased price would come purely from the Targetmaster -- after all, MP Artfire didn't cost any more than MP Inferno. Either one of Takara or TFSource is getting risky/greedy, or something else is going on here... :-?
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Postby steals_your_goats » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:08 am

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Kurona wrote:For a direct comparison, TFSource has MP-28 Hot Rod listed at 75 USD compared to MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rod listed at 90 USD.

I doubt this increased price would come purely from the Targetmaster -- after all, MP Artfire didn't cost any more than MP Inferno. Either one of Takara or TFSource is getting risky/greedy, or something else is going on here... :-?


Artfire also came with significantly less accessories than inferno. We'll have to wait and see if hot rod loses his other things as well before we can pass judgement on the pricing
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Dang it!!!! Just when I was happy to sell off regular MP Hot Rodimus, now I need to see if I need to keep his accessories!! I'm hoping they fix the tabs in transformation so he can roll better :D

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Postby Kurona » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:20 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:
Kurona wrote:For a direct comparison, TFSource has MP-28 Hot Rod listed at 75 USD compared to MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rod listed at 90 USD.

I doubt this increased price would come purely from the Targetmaster -- after all, MP Artfire didn't cost any more than MP Inferno. Either one of Takara or TFSource is getting risky/greedy, or something else is going on here... :-?


Artfire also came with significantly less accessories than inferno. We'll have to wait and see if hot rod loses his other things as well before we can pass judgement on the pricing

In that case, FISHING ROD TARGETMASTER HYPE
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Postby omega666 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:56 am

More like announced because nothing was revealed.
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Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:09 am

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Unusual of Takara to be giving so many nods to The Rebirth as of late, since that's an alternate universe story as far as they're concerned.
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Postby wilcosu35 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:13 am

Targetmaster Hot Rod? I'll wait for more info and pictures before i decide if i want to get this. It's a lot more expensive than Hot Rod was, so it should have a lot of extra stuf...... or at least i hope.
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Postby Powered Convoy » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:28 am

I'm guessing he'll have a toy deco for two reasons.

To differentiate himself from the previous Masterpiece Hot Rod, and to differentiate himself from the Legends Targetmaster Hot Rod.

Which would lead me to believe that Firebolt will be in his toy colors (black, gray, and red) rather than his cartoon colors (silver, gray, and blue). Legends Firebolt used the cartoon colors, which if this MP goes for toy colors would further separate it from that.

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Postby Emerje » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:56 pm

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Kurona wrote:I doubt this increased price would come purely from the Targetmaster -- after all, MP Artfire didn't cost any more than MP Inferno.


Inferno and Grapple were ¥14,000, Artfire was ¥15,000 and as mentioned already he was stripped of nearly all of the accessories the others came with except for Inferno's gun and one face. So yeah, an MP Targetmaster heavily effects the price. I'll be surprised if Hot Rod comes with anything other than his Targetmaster partner.

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Postby Relic0037 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:25 pm

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Guess they want to make a couple bucks reusing the mold by packaging him with a Targetmaster. What I really want to see them do is make an improved version of MP-09 based on Rodimus Prime. With that POTP version coming out soon, I'm guessing they will hold off awhile on that, so I'd settle on MP-41 or MP-42 being Broadcast (Blaster) with Steeljaw.
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Postby Seibertron » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:50 pm

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I have some mixed thoughts on this since I wasn't the biggest fan of "Masterpiece" Hot Rod. Looking forward to seeing this, but I wish they'd fix the red upper shoulder area that blocks the iconic yellow shield on his back and would figure out a different design with the chest that was less blocky and more "heroic" looking like on the toy and other iterations of this character.

It seems Takara is tossing out the methodology for the previous number scheme. I'm OK with that for the sake of making it clearer that there are way more than 40 Masterpiece figures, but kind of wish they had done that from the beginning instead of having numbers like MP-11T and MP-11S, for example.
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Postby DecepticonFinishline » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:08 am

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My guess is that it really doesn't differentiate from the MP-28 version. Maybe a more toy-accurate scheme given the amount of time we have to wait for it.

Although. I ask because I haven't actually looked into this question, how often does Takara refer to Hot Rod as (Hot) Rodimus when it is still just Hot Rod? Maaaaybe we are getting some Prime components?? Doubtful. But maybs?

Personally, I would have preferred a Decepticon Black Hot Rod, but... If we're getting a Rodimus Prime redux, I'd rather wait til then. I DO love that color scheme, though. Additionally, anything to fill out the Decepticons.

Relic0037 wrote:Guess they want to make a couple bucks reusing the mold by packaging him with a Targetmaster. What I really want to see them do is make an improved version of MP-09 based on Rodimus Prime. With that POTP version coming out soon, I'm guessing they will hold off awhile on that, so I'd settle on MP-41 or MP-42 being Broadcast (Blaster) with Steeljaw.


Maybe if MP-41 is Dinobot, given that we've seen a greyscale version. Exciting to just KNOW it's coming though. It's just a matter of time......... =P~
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DecepticonFinishline wrote:Although. I ask because I haven't actually looked into this question, how often does Takara refer to Hot Rod as (Hot) Rodimus when it is still just Hot Rod? Maaaaybe we are getting some Prime components?? Doubtful. But maybs?
In Japan, Hot Rod is "Hot Rodimus" (with just "Rodimus" as a shorthand nickname), while Rodimus Prime is "Rodimus Convoy" (whose shorthands are instead the more formal "Shireikan", meaning "Commander", and "Sōshireikan", meaning "Supreme Commander").
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Postby Kurona » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:10 pm

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I don't think Hot Rod's ever actually been called Hot Rod in Japan. If I recall they only used that name for Armada Hot Shot and future versions of that character.

Toy-accurate Primal being a normally-numbered Masterpiece release; the Cartoon colour scheme already being represented in Masterpiece; and Targetmaster Hot Rod not being featured in any Japanese fiction all lead me to believe this will be a toy-accurate deco. Still, could easily be wrong. Hope I'm not since the original toy's brighter, vibrant colours are soooo much better and to my mind Hot Roddier.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:14 pm

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Kurona wrote:I don't think Hot Rod's ever actually been called Hot Rod in Japan.
He was in the Japanese dub of The Rebirth.
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Kurona wrote:I don't think Hot Rod's ever actually been called Hot Rod in Japan.
He was in the Japanese dub of The Rebirth.
I suspect that was because Rebirth wasn't originated in Japan, and he was called Hot Rod in the source material. Though I don't remember if that also applied to the series in the Unicron Trilogy, as the production and dubbing, especially for Armada, was a mess.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:13 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:I don't think Hot Rod's ever actually been called Hot Rod in Japan.
He was in the Japanese dub of The Rebirth.
I suspect that was because Rebirth wasn't originated in Japan, and he was called Hot Rod in the source material. Though I don't remember if that also applied to the series in the Unicron Trilogy, as the production and dubbing, especially for Armada, was a mess.
The American G1 cartoon didn't originate in Japan either. Toei helped animate most of its first two seasons and the movie, but it was conceived as an American cartoon. The third and fourth seasons were animated by AKOM in South Korea, but the third season still aired in Japan in a dubbed form after its English release in North America and elsewhere.

The reason Hot Rod was named "Hot Rod" in the Japanese dub of The Rebirth, instead of "Hot Rodimus" like he was in the Japanese dub of Season 3, is because Japan didn't get The Rebirth dubbed until 1996, where it was released direct-to-video with a very different dub from how Seasons 1-3 had been dubbed in Japanese. Namely, the English theme song and commercial bumpers were kept intact and unchanged, and nearly all of the names and terms in the episodes were left as their English names instead of their Japanese names (with the few exceptions being high profile characters like Optimus Prime still being "Convoy", and a few other odd changes such as Scorponok being renamed "Scorpion"). Only three actors from the original Japanese dub of the G1 cartoon were featured in the dub of The Rebirth: Tesshō Genda as Convoy, Seizō Katō as Galvatron, and Issei Masamune as the narrator.

As such, the Japanese dub of The Rebirth was much more heavily based on the original English version of the episodes when compared to how Seasons 1-3 were dubbed with a ton of name and terminology changes.


As for the Unicron Trilogy:
  • Armada Hot Shot was "Hot Rod" in Japan
  • Energon Hot Shot was "Hot Shot" in Japan
  • Energon Rodimus was "Rodimus Convoy" in Japan
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