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Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:23 am

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No discussion about what the possible Targetmaster might look like? Or do we already suspect TakaraTomy is going to reuse MP Offshoot:

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Postby Emerje » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:23 am

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It's possible, the one image I found of MP-28 with Offshoot they do look good together.

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But I feel like they'd rather do something new closer to Artfire's Nightstick.

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Postby Kurona » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:14 am

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I just figured it'd be a new mold using similar engineering to MP-37's Nightstick. Figured there wasn't really much to talk about.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:29 pm

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I could either happening, but TakaraTomy leaving a cost-saving opportunity like that unused... I don't know, guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:46 am

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After seeing what Offshoot looks like with MP-28, I'm really kinda hoping Firebolt will be a new mold. Offshoot is nice and all, but man is he BIG when partnered up with MP-28. His size makes him look less like a handgun and more like a huge fantasy blaster from a video game or something.
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Sabrblade wrote:After seeing what Offshoot looks like with MP-28, I'm really kinda hoping Firebolt will be a new mold. Offshoot is nice and all, but man is he BIG when partnered up with MP-28. His size makes him look less like a handgun and more like a huge fantasy blaster from a video game or something.
They are ALL huge fantasy blasters though, aren't they?! :lol:

In all seriousness, yeah, he's big. BUT if they retool the handle so it fits properly in his hand and his port on the engine, it would STILL be a completely new item for the Japanese "Takara" market!!
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itscramtastic wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:After seeing what Offshoot looks like with MP-28, I'm really kinda hoping Firebolt will be a new mold. Offshoot is nice and all, but man is he BIG when partnered up with MP-28. His size makes him look less like a handgun and more like a huge fantasy blaster from a video game or something.
They are ALL huge fantasy blasters though, aren't they?! :lol:

In all seriousness, yeah, he's big. BUT if they retool the handle so it fits properly in his hand and his port on the engine, it would STILL be a completely new item for the Japanese "Takara" market!!
I think it looks pretty nice from the side, that front shot I had sort of exaggerated the look.
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And, here's as top down of a shot as I could get to show the length, they all end up being right around the same.
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The Targetmaster torso and handle are what really make it gigantic, not terribly far off though!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Postby shajaki » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:17 am

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I'm quite confident in TT's abilities. It would be quite below their current standards to re-release Offshoot with 28.

At very least I expect a new Targetmaster, and deco for 28. At most, modifications to 28's mold to make him more OG toy-like.
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Postby itscramtastic » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:24 am

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shajaki wrote:I'm quite confident in TT's abilities. It would be quite below their current standards to re-release Offshoot with 28.

At very least I expect a new Targetmaster, and deco for 28. At most, modifications to 28's mold to make him more OG toy-like.
You mean, like the deco the Reprolabels tried to do?!
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Postby shajaki » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:56 am

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itscramtastic wrote:You mean, like the deco the Reprolabels tried to do?!
Yussir! The remolding I was thinking of was mostly the lower legs. Since they don't "become" anything in car mode, you could change them to look however you want :-?
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Postby itscramtastic » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:00 am

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itscramtastic wrote:You mean, like the deco the Reprolabels tried to do?!
Yussir! The remolding I was thinking of was mostly the lower legs. Since they don't "become" anything in car mode, you could change them to look however you want :-?
Interesting..I never thought of leg remolding..they definitely need to fix the dang neck/chest collar thing. And the wheels, as I want my Hot Rodimus to roll on my flippin' desk!!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Postby ScottyP » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:40 am

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What if it's that weird oversaturated magenta like in the Sony DVD for TFTM?

My real wish list for this would be better chrome, slightly (juuuuust slightly) bigger tires, and inclusion of the hoverboard that the SDCC Shreddicus Maximus has in white/blue for movie accuracy.
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Postby Kurona » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:47 am

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I'd really like to see the legs become red like the original toy. I don't know why his character models made the lower sections grey or black; it kinda offsets the whole colour scheme.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Postby ScottyP » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:51 am

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Kurona wrote:I'd really like to see the legs become red like the original toy. I don't know why his character models made the lower sections grey or black; it kinda offsets the whole colour scheme.
I always assumed it was because those were undercarriage parts in vehicle mode.

Alternately, those are his leather boots and he never takes them off in the cartoon.
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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:03 pm

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Kurona wrote:I'd really like to see the legs become red like the original toy. I don't know why his character models made the lower sections grey or black; it kinda offsets the whole colour scheme.
I always assumed it was because those were undercarriage parts in vehicle mode.

Alternately, those are his leather boots and he never takes them off in the cartoon.
Not to mention that Hot Rod was one of the ones whose character model designs came first, with the toy being based on the character model, rather than vice versa like most other G1 characters.
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Postby fenrir72 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:46 pm

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shajaki wrote:I'm quite confident in TT's abilities. It would be quite below their current standards to re-release Offshoot with 28.

At very least I expect a new Targetmaster, and deco for 28. At most, modifications to 28's mold to make him more OG toy-like.


So Takara is gonna do an extensive remold of a figure based on what? Speculation? :roll: Heck, for BeastConvoy, all they did was recolor him plus add a mutant mask.

At most, a recolor (highly doubtful for Hotrodimus) but altering the base mold? Dream on! Or should I say, till at the windmills!
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Postby shajaki » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:05 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
shajaki wrote:I'm quite confident in TT's abilities. It would be quite below their current standards to re-release Offshoot with 28.

At very least I expect a new Targetmaster, and deco for 28. At most, modifications to 28's mold to make him more OG toy-like.


So Takara is gonna do an extensive remold of a figure based on what? Speculation? :roll: Heck, for BeastConvoy, all they did was recolor him plus add a mutant mask.

At most, a recolor (highly doubtful for Hotrodimus) but altering the base mold? Dream on! Or should I say, till at the windmills!
Is that attitude really necessary?

I said "AT MOST" a retool. Likelihood being LOW. And might I remind you, there's almost ZERO details at this point, so EVERYTHING in this thread is speculation. So maybe don't jump on people for sharing their speculations.

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Postby Kurona » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:15 pm

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Kurona wrote:I'd really like to see the legs become red like the original toy. I don't know why his character models made the lower sections grey or black; it kinda offsets the whole colour scheme.
I always assumed it was because those were undercarriage parts in vehicle mode.

Alternately, those are his leather boots and he never takes them off in the cartoon.
Not to mention that Hot Rod was one of the ones whose character model designs came first, with the toy being based on the character model, rather than vice versa like most other G1 characters.

Maaaan, I keep forgetting about that. Even so, my hope for a red-legged Hot Rod is high :x
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Postby Emerje » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:44 pm

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Wouldn't it be pointless if Hot Rod was just the same MP with a Targetmaster partner rather than a new deco? We've already got our cartoon version, it really only makes sense for the next one to be toy-accurate like Artfire. And like Artfire, Japan's only exposure to Hot Rod as a Targetmaster was through the toy. Doing anything else with the colors would be a real head scratcher.

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Postby Kurona » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:55 pm

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I also feel MP-38 Supreme Commander Beast Convoy is a good precedent -- he's a toy-accurate deco of a toon-accurate MP, and he's in the 'normal' numbering rather than being relegated to the special/exclusive releases even though it's not terribly different from MP-32.

And then of course, being toy-accurate would set this release apart from the close release of Legends Targetmaster Hot Rod; who's a toon-accurate toy with a Targetmaster.

I dunno, just feels like there's a lot to suggest this will be toy-accurate. I just hope I'm not getting my hopes up too much :-s
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Postby ScottyP » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:49 am

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^ About getting your hopes up,

My wishful thinking side says go nuts, imagine anything and it can be true!


The other crusty old collector side says hey, rememver how the C-78 reissue and TFC 13 for Hot Rod and TM Hot Rod were barely different save the actual Targetmaster? It's just that again instead of a straight MP-28 reissue.
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ScottyP wrote:^ About getting your hopes up,
My wishful thinking side says go nuts, imagine anything and it can be true!

The other crusty old collector side says hey, rememver how the C-78 reissue and TFC 13 for Hot Rod and TM Hot Rod were barely different save the actual Targetmaster? It's just that again instead of a straight MP-28 reissue.
:lol: :lol: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE:

That's what I'm hoping for, so I won't feel like I'm missing something when I have a relatively serviceable MP Targetmaster already :lol:
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Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:41 pm

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At the very least we can expect a redeco plus the Offshoot. Anything else is just an added bonus. :)
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Postby Kurona » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:47 am

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Thanks once again to TFND's Facebook page, we have more images of upcoming Takara Tomy product -- this time in the Masterpiece line, with MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus! A redeco of MP-28 Hot Rod packed with a redeco of the previously Hasbro-exclusive Offshoot which came with the Hasbro version of MP-09 Rodimus, this is set to release soon after MP-39 Sunstreaker sometime early next year. Check out the images below and tell us what you think in the forums!

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #192 - Transformers vs. Impropriety
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