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Nemesis Maximo wrote:1. MP-36 cost approx 250 USD from most major relevant retailers.
2. MP-41 cost about the same, was about the same size, came with a comparatively appropriate amount of accessories.
3. MP-43 is going to 330 USD, and does come with fewer accessories than MP-36, but will be larger than MP-36 which justifies the price increase to most.
MP-44 will cost 450 USD, will be around the same size as MP-36 if not shorter, even if it does come a trailer, and will have as many of not more accessories than MP-36
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Relic0037 wrote:I hope this price increase doesn't mean every upcoming Masterpiece figure will continue to have a ridiculous price tag associated with it. I expect some the cost of these figures to go up over time due to inflation, inclusion of more accessories, etc, but if MP Mirage is announced at an absurd price like $200, I just may have to rethink whether or not I continue collecting this line.
When I got into collecting Masterpieces a few years ago, I knew they were far from cheap. But typically they would rarely go over the $200 price point with many of the car Autobots costing $80, which I could work into my budget. If the starting price starts to edge towards the $200 mark that would probably price me out right now, which would be a shame, because I have most of the previously released figures I want other than Ratchet & maybe MP-09, & I would hate to have to tap out because Takara is just trying to test where the line is in the general fans' pocket books.
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Hellscream9999 wrote:I think mp hound will be the real litmus test for the future of the line, he should theoretically be around car-bot price, but if he's higher than 'streaker (who was higher then all the car-bots), then I'd say this would mean things will continue like this
I took Sunstreaker's price, and Cordon's for that matter, to be a sign that all MPs would be increasing in price. Which is why I'm not surprised by 44's price tag. As outrageous as it is.Hellscream9999 wrote:Relic0037 wrote:I hope this price increase doesn't mean every upcoming Masterpiece figure will continue to have a ridiculous price tag associated with it. I expect some the cost of these figures to go up over time due to inflation, inclusion of more accessories, etc, but if MP Mirage is announced at an absurd price like $200, I just may have to rethink whether or not I continue collecting this line.
When I got into collecting Masterpieces a few years ago, I knew they were far from cheap. But typically they would rarely go over the $200 price point with many of the car Autobots costing $80, which I could work into my budget. If the starting price starts to edge towards the $200 mark that would probably price me out right now, which would be a shame, because I have most of the previously released figures I want other than Ratchet & maybe MP-09, & I would hate to have to tap out because Takara is just trying to test where the line is in the general fans' pocket books.
I think mp hound will be the real litmus test for the future of the line, he should theoretically be around car-bot price, but if he's higher than 'streaker (who was higher then all the car-bots), then I'd say this would mean things will continue like this
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:Does anyone see the humor in redoing something that is labeled as a masterpiece?
There is only one Mona Lisa. Only one David. Only one Beethoven's 5th Symphony.
Now there are 3 Masterpiece Optimus Primes.![]()
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Cobotron wrote:I took Sunstreaker's price, and Cordon's for that matter, to be a sign that all MPs would be increasing in price. Which is why I'm not surprised by 44's price tag. As outrageous as it is.Hellscream9999 wrote:Relic0037 wrote:I hope this price increase doesn't mean every upcoming Masterpiece figure will continue to have a ridiculous price tag associated with it. I expect some the cost of these figures to go up over time due to inflation, inclusion of more accessories, etc, but if MP Mirage is announced at an absurd price like $200, I just may have to rethink whether or not I continue collecting this line.
When I got into collecting Masterpieces a few years ago, I knew they were far from cheap. But typically they would rarely go over the $200 price point with many of the car Autobots costing $80, which I could work into my budget. If the starting price starts to edge towards the $200 mark that would probably price me out right now, which would be a shame, because I have most of the previously released figures I want other than Ratchet & maybe MP-09, & I would hate to have to tap out because Takara is just trying to test where the line is in the general fans' pocket books.
I think mp hound will be the real litmus test for the future of the line, he should theoretically be around car-bot price, but if he's higher than 'streaker (who was higher then all the car-bots), then I'd say this would mean things will continue like this
I guess I've never really weighed in on this subject, but I had no interest in this release in the first place. And now that there is this giant price tag, I'm definitely sticking too my initial thoughts that, MP-10 is the Prime for my MP collection.
Does anyone see the humor in redoing something that is labeled as a masterpiece?
There is only one Mona Lisa. Only one David. Only one Beethoven's 5th Symphony.
Now there are 3 Masterpiece Optimus Primes.![]()
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Relic0037 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I think mp hound will be the real litmus test for the future of the line, he should theoretically be around car-bot price, but if he's higher than 'streaker (who was higher then all the car-bots), then I'd say this would mean things will continue like this
I think Sunstreaker was $120 from bbts, so if Hound is roughly that size & stays close to that price it's a good sign.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Relic0037 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I think mp hound will be the real litmus test for the future of the line, he should theoretically be around car-bot price, but if he's higher than 'streaker (who was higher then all the car-bots), then I'd say this would mean things will continue like this
I think Sunstreaker was $120 from bbts, so if Hound is roughly that size & stays close to that price it's a good sign.
The thing with the car bots we need to remember is that there are licensing fees that factor into the cost. Which is why Sunstreaker was a little more expensive than say Hot Rod.
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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Relic0037 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I think mp hound will be the real litmus test for the future of the line, he should theoretically be around car-bot price, but if he's higher than 'streaker (who was higher then all the car-bots), then I'd say this would mean things will continue like this
I think Sunstreaker was $120 from bbts, so if Hound is roughly that size & stays close to that price it's a good sign.
The thing with the car bots we need to remember is that there are licensing fees that factor into the cost. Which is why Sunstreaker was a little more expensive than say Hot Rod.
I agree with a lot of what you're saying except this. To fairly compare Mercedes to the MP line we'd have to consider this scenario. A person has been buying Mercedes for years and they have cost them $60-80k. After a few years this person went to buy a new car, but now all Mercedes start at $500k. They've just been priced out of the brand.President-prime wrote:It’s like going to a MERCEDES dealer and “complains” about how expensive the cars are.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well then just go get MP-01. Out of scale and can't bend at the waist, but it has all that you asked for and no more. Or you could get MP-10 (and, I don't know, pawn or donate the trailer. Or keep office supplies in it) - better articulated and in scale. Either way you save yourself the pain of buying this junker.
MP-10 never got a trailerless release in the regular colors because as far as the cartoon goes the trailer was a fundamental part of Optimus! He almost never drove without it! Omitting a proper trailer was something MP-01 got a lot of flack for.
Nailed itEmerje wrote: They are being nice giving us some breathing room between MP-43 and MP-44, though I guess Hound, who looked further along than Prime, will be out in the Fall. He'll probably come with a cage for Ravage, a hologram effect piece, some hologram riders and a 10" non-transforming Megatron hologram to really up the price.
Emerje
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:^Yes, there's a lot of reinventing the wheel in some of the newer MPs (and one of the older ones). I think some of it was needed in Sunstreaker's case because of the twin goals of "cartoon proportions" and "turns into realistic and proportional Lamborghini Countach LP500S". It was also necessary on the Beast Wars MPs to accommodate the stretching and flattening of certain beast mode parts while using ABS instead of flexible material. But on this guy? No. I also think both MP-05 and MP-36 suffer from their complexity
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Emerje wrote:DeadCaL wrote:Hopefully they'll just release Prime on his own. Otherwise my Meggy is gonna be all lonesome.
Probably wont happen. MP-10 never got a non-trailer version despite other uses of his mold (Black Convoy, Gold Lagoon, and Shattered Glass) not coming with one.
Emerje
Ironhidensh wrote:Official colored pictures.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
william-james88 wrote:I will be honest guys, even if money was not an issue, I am not that impressed.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:So, with all the arguing back and forth, I thought I'd share my thoughts on why myself and so many others find this price to be ridiculous.
There has been an argument made that Takara is charging more because it costs them more, not just inflating for the sake of inflating. That just doesn't hold water for me.
See, MP 36 Megatron cost about $200. It is still, to date, the most complex MP Takara has made. Prime 44 is the same size, and you can clearly see from the pictures that he in no way is more complex than Megatron. Prime is a very comparable figure to Megatron, and should cost around the same. Yes, Prime comes with a trailer and a lot of accessories, but so did Megatron. Do you really think Prime's add ons are worth $250 extra? Hell no. Also, we have the 3rd Party market to compare too. Their production costs are greater than Takara's. Its why those figures cost so much. Many of them are the same level of quality as official product, if not better in many cases. Takara has skyrocketed the price in comparison. Not to mention other high end collectors lines in Japan form other companies, that do more with less.
Long story short, there is no realistic or market based reasoning for this massive price mark up, other than Takara simply wants to charge more. And that is fine. Its how a free market works, non of us are being forced to buy it. Just don't say that the price is justified in any other way, its not. This is a cash grab, same as Dinobot was. Dinobot is a far inferior figure compared to Megatron, and cost more. I thought I could live with it for the ability to have a premium Dinobot figure, but it just keeps eating at me. I'll be putting mine on eBay this week. With that, the already ridiculous price of BW Megatron, and now this ludicrous Prime price, I think I'm out of the official MP game, and that really sucks. I love MP figures, but I will not be taken advantage of like this.
The real kicker for me in all of this? I want this figure. It looks simply amazing, and I am one of the lucky ones here who can afford this price. But I can't justify it by any means. I have two little boys, and we have started trying to teach them the value of money. How can I do that with a straight face when I waste money on something like this? Answer: I can't.
Oh well, we move on.
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