More than likely he'll be a redeco of Perceptor since that was Hasbro's original plan all along.Decatron wrote:I've seen that 3rd party one which seems okay, but always wanted an official modern Reflector. Hopefully he gets his own new mold(s).
More than likely he'll be a redeco of Perceptor since that was Hasbro's original plan all along.Decatron wrote:I've seen that 3rd party one which seems okay, but always wanted an official modern Reflector. Hopefully he gets his own new mold(s).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
They used Classics Grimlock for Henkei! Henkei! Grimlock.Mindmaster wrote:I'm also curious about Grimlock's position. I'd argue he would likely be the FOC Voyager, but someone already pointed out he's priced as a Deluxe. Didn't Takara pull Classics Grimlock into United already?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:They used Classics Grimlock for Henkei! Henkei! Grimlock.Mindmaster wrote:I'm also curious about Grimlock's position. I'd argue he would likely be the FOC Voyager, but someone already pointed out he's priced as a Deluxe. Didn't Takara pull Classics Grimlock into United already?
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Wait, why are these listed as United figures when that line has more or less been converted into PCC via United EX and replaced by the Japanese Generations line?
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Wait, why are these listed as United figures when that line has more or less been converted into PCC via United EX and replaced by the Japanese Generations line?
The official site still lists both United and United EX in the same section. It would seem logical to use:
- United for Classics up to Generations plus their repaints
- United EX for PCC
- Generations for FoC molds
Which leads me to believe United Grimlock is actually a re-release of Classics Grimlock, not the FoC one. They've done it before with Bumblebee and Rodimus.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Wait, why are these listed as United figures when that line has more or less been converted into PCC via United EX and replaced by the Japanese Generations line?
The official site still lists both United and United EX in the same section. It would seem logical to use:
- United for Classics up to Generations plus their repaints
- United EX for PCC
- Generations for FoC molds
Which leads me to believe United Grimlock is actually a re-release of Classics Grimlock, not the FoC one. They've done it before with Bumblebee and Rodimus.
Like Jelze said, they resused both Classics Bumblebee and Classics Rodimus, not to mention Classics Megatron, for United.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:It would be very odd for them to use "Classics" Grimlock on account that they used it for the Henkei! line.
Doubt it. They haven't used a mold that old for United yet, as that was a 1996 Beast Wars mold redecoed for the 2003 Wal-Mart Dinobots release.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:So honestly, seeing how the Beast Wars pieces were originally unused "anniversary" molds, I am starting to hope and worry (at the same time) that they will not be using the Walmart exclusive "Transformers: Dinobots" version.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Like Jelze said, they resused both Classics Bumblebee and Classics Rodimus, not to mention Classics Megatron, for United.
Sabrblade wrote:Doubt it. They haven't used a mold that old for United yet, as that was a 1996 Beast Wars mold redecoed for the 2003 Wal-Mart Dinobots release.
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Like Jelze said, they resused both Classics Bumblebee and Classics Rodimus, not to mention Classics Megatron, for United.
I'll remember that when I look at the reason why they reissued those figures. But it also does not explain why the list has every Generations/Fall of Cybertron figure being listed as a UNITED figure.
Or did you not mention that on the fanpage I found you tied to?
Oh, and please note that I respect Jelze on account she listens to those who disagrees with her (HINT!)... And know that making said conclusion is a common thing to do. But do not use her as a means of being right. Thanks.
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Doubt it. They haven't used a mold that old for United yet, as that was a 1996 Beast Wars mold redecoed for the 2003 Wal-Mart Dinobots release.
Yet you have given me so many reasons not to use that as a reliable fact. My point is that I hope they do not do it, as they reissued not only Cheetus and Dinobot in 2008, but also numerous Hasbro sets in a traditional manner they established in 1985. However, I am not going to rule them out on account that they are usable and may possibly be used as a "UNITED" (or something among those lines) version of Dinoforce.
And if they do... They better add Star Saber into the mix.
Rated X wrote:Reflector - would work, but pointless because the 3rd parties have already done the character in both G1 and neo versions. The mold really needs to be used for Soundwave instead.
Sodan-1 wrote:A green Warpath does not a Hardhead make, and already owning Perfect Effect's SFX I have no desire for a convenient Reflector remold.
Sodan-1 wrote:A green Warpath does not a Hardhead make, and already owning Perfect Effect's SFX I have no desire for a convenient Reflector remold.
Rated X wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:A green Warpath does not a Hardhead make, and already owning Perfect Effect's SFX I have no desire for a convenient Reflector remold.
Agreed. But a green Warpath would make a perfect Treds. And theres no shortage of extra Warpaths to get a head and paint it...
Not all. Optmus and Jazz are still isted under "TG".KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:I'll remember that when I look at the reason why they reissued those figures. But it also does not explain why the list has every Generations/Fall of Cybertron figure being listed as a UNITED figure.
The what?KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Or did you not mention that on the fanpage I found you tied to?
I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was giving reassurance based on what we've seen thus far. Though, looking at what Jelze later wrote, now I'm now so sure.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Oh, and please note that I respect Jelze on account she listens to those who disagrees with her (HINT!)... And know that making said conclusion is a common thing to do. But do not use her as a means of being right. Thanks.
Yes, please!KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And if they do... They better add Star Saber into the mix.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Having a Starscream, Shockwave and Swindle under United does seem puzzling, for these reasons:
- The rest of the Combaticons are plain missing
- Optimus Prime and Jazz are properly listed under TG.
- After checking the ID numbers, they do not match the TG release order: Starscream is TG-09, Swindle is TG-06 (not even the first Combaticon in the list to boot) and Shockwave has yet to get one.
Color me crazy, but I suspect TakaraTomy is planning on restarting the United line again after EX is done, with repaints. They've used WfC molds as Cybertronian forms of G1 characters, and I have a feeling they're planning the same approach for Shockwave. Would be a first to use the same mold for two separate continuities, however I wouldn't rule it out. Remember, the games were never released in Japan.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:TakaraTomy does have a penchant for using the molds Hasbro has designed on paper how they please. But even they have limits, I'm sure.
Sabrblade wrote:The what?
Sabrblade wrote:Yes, please!
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