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Could always toss Hasbro's SS on there insteadwilliam-james88 wrote:Oh I know. But all along from the very first combiner announced (superion), the reason for me to choose between Takara and Hasbro was based on how good the team looks together. This is beyond any nostalgia or need for likeness to the show. I preferred all jets for Superion because it worked better for the theme. I liked all different molds for Menasor because that team seemed to look better the more eclectic it was. And in the case of Defensor, I really like the rescue theme it has with the red white and blue. I would have preffered having that Groove instead of Rook but at least Rook fits the colour theme beautifully. Not sure if all the white is the same from figure to figure on the Hasbro version but I hope it is. That grey on Streetwise clashes too much for me.
shajaki wrote:Could always toss Hasbro's SS on there insteadwilliam-james88 wrote:Oh I know. But all along from the very first combiner announced (superion), the reason for me to choose between Takara and Hasbro was based on how good the team looks together. This is beyond any nostalgia or need for likeness to the show. I preferred all jets for Superion because it worked better for the theme. I liked all different molds for Menasor because that team seemed to look better the more eclectic it was. And in the case of Defensor, I really like the rescue theme it has with the red white and blue. I would have preffered having that Groove instead of Rook but at least Rook fits the colour theme beautifully. Not sure if all the white is the same from figure to figure on the Hasbro version but I hope it is. That grey on Streetwise clashes too much for me.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
To a child, motorcycles are likely viewed as being in a different, smaller league than cars, trucks, helicopters, jets, planes, etc., while all of the latter are probably not as often or as starkly distinguished by children with them all being considered "big things", as opposed to motorcycles being "littler things".Spanbauer wrote:Am I the only one that sees the hypocrisy in Hasbro ditching Groove "because scale", while simultaneously including a baby helicopter for ants?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I hope Hasbro finds a reason to use that Groove mold. Because the robot mode is badass.
Seibertron wrote:i love seeing adults trying to argue whether or not kids want things in scale or not. My 2 cents? Kids don't give a damn. That's what imagination is for. I don't ever recall thinking about scale when I was a kid except bigger Transformers were stronger or were the leaders. Perceptor and Soundwave were my respective leaders until Ultra Magnus with dead Optimus Prime and Galvatron came along. And Devastator was strongest because he was biggest in my childhood collection. Scale be damned.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Seibertron wrote:i love seeing adults trying to argue whether or not kids want things in scale or not. My 2 cents? Kids don't give a damn. That's what imagination is for. I don't ever recall thinking about scale when I was a kid except bigger Transformers were stronger or were the leaders. Perceptor and Soundwave were my respective leaders until Ultra Magnus with dead Optimus Prime and Galvatron came along. And Devastator was strongest because he was biggest in my childhood collection. Scale be damned.
Seibertron wrote:i love seeing adults trying to argue whether or not kids want things in scale or not. My 2 cents? Kids don't give a damn. That's what imagination is for. I don't ever recall thinking about scale when I was a kid except bigger Transformers were stronger or were the leaders. Perceptor and Soundwave were my respective leaders until Ultra Magnus with dead Optimus Prime and Galvatron came along. And Devastator was strongest because he was biggest in my childhood collection. Scale be damned.
munkimus prime wrote:Screw scale I like toys.
Gearslide wrote:Seeing Takara's Groove in detail, I feel like if the next two Scramble City Combiners are Abominus and Computron, that Abominus will be all new molds (excluding retools among members, like with the Aerialbots), and Computron will be all retools/repaint of older molds.
For instance:
-Scattershot could be retooled from the Silverbolt or Cyclonus molds.
-Afterburner could be retooled/repainted from the Groove mold.
-Lightspeed could be retooled/repainted from the Breakdown or Dead End molds.
-Nosecone could be retooled/repainted from the Brawl mold.
-Strafe could be retooled from an Aerialbot (OR if Takara actually makes their own Space Shuttle Blast Off) mold.
The reason I'm thinking this is because when HasTak make a new mold, they usually plan it to have multiple repaints/retools in order to maximize efficiency from the mold. And with the new reveals, there's a couple molds that don't have second uses planned/shown yet (Brawl and Groove being the main culprits, and again, if Takara has a different mold for Blast Off).
The Terrorcons, on the other hand, don't really work with any of the current Combiner Wars molds, being monsters. I imagine they'll be all new molds, with POSSIBLY Rippernapper and Blot (Blight? Bloght? Blut?) being retools of each other (being they are kind of similar in design in monster mode). And then, Piranacon and/or Monstructor could have retools of the Terrorcons in their teams, since they also feature beastial/monster modes.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sorry, there is a 99.9% chance that it will be Computron and Victorion. Has/tak don't seem to be into making entirely new molds, despite what I've said about the ease of converting certain molds into animals, beast combiners just aren't happening in all likelyhood. Combiner wars is ending after next year, then it'll be back to the regularly scheduled generations stuff (with combiners possibly interspersed throughout the future)
Sorry to possibly ruin your evening.
Gearslide wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sorry, there is a 99.9% chance that it will be Computron and Victorion. Has/tak don't seem to be into making entirely new molds, despite what I've said about the ease of converting certain molds into animals, beast combiners just aren't happening in all likelyhood. Combiner wars is ending after next year, then it'll be back to the regularly scheduled generations stuff (with combiners possibly interspersed throughout the future)
Sorry to possibly ruin your evening.
I said Scramble City Combiners, meaning the G1 teams, and excluding newer "filler" combiners like Optimus Maximus, Galvatronus, and Victorion. Since we have 2/3 of the G1 rivalries (Superion and Menasor, Defensor and Bruticus), I was specifically talking about the next pair of rivals, not necessarily the next combiners to be released.
william-james88 wrote:Gearslide wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sorry, there is a 99.9% chance that it will be Computron and Victorion. Has/tak don't seem to be into making entirely new molds, despite what I've said about the ease of converting certain molds into animals, beast combiners just aren't happening in all likelyhood. Combiner wars is ending after next year, then it'll be back to the regularly scheduled generations stuff (with combiners possibly interspersed throughout the future)
Sorry to possibly ruin your evening.
I said Scramble City Combiners, meaning the G1 teams, and excluding newer "filler" combiners like Optimus Maximus, Galvatronus, and Victorion. Since we have 2/3 of the G1 rivalries (Superion and Menasor, Defensor and Bruticus), I was specifically talking about the next pair of rivals, not necessarily the next combiners to be released.
Are there other combiner rivals? Who is Computron's nemesis? Abominus? That purple griffon IS a rival of the aerialbots so he might be coming afterall
Gearslide wrote:william-james88 wrote:Gearslide wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sorry, there is a 99.9% chance that it will be Computron and Victorion. Has/tak don't seem to be into making entirely new molds, despite what I've said about the ease of converting certain molds into animals, beast combiners just aren't happening in all likelyhood. Combiner wars is ending after next year, then it'll be back to the regularly scheduled generations stuff (with combiners possibly interspersed throughout the future)
Sorry to possibly ruin your evening.
I said Scramble City Combiners, meaning the G1 teams, and excluding newer "filler" combiners like Optimus Maximus, Galvatronus, and Victorion. Since we have 2/3 of the G1 rivalries (Superion and Menasor, Defensor and Bruticus), I was specifically talking about the next pair of rivals, not necessarily the next combiners to be released.
Are there other combiner rivals? Who is Computron's nemesis? Abominus? That purple griffon IS a rival of the aerialbots so he might be coming afterall
I was under the impression that Computron and Abominus were rivals, yes. And Superion seems to have moved past the Purple Griffon, unfortunately.
Although with Sky Lynx being a combiner now, the Griffon may actually have a weird place as HIS rival. Actually, now I want a retool of Sky Lynx into the Purple Griffon.
Shuttershock wrote:Gearslide wrote:william-james88 wrote:Gearslide wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sorry, there is a 99.9% chance that it will be Computron and Victorion. Has/tak don't seem to be into making entirely new molds, despite what I've said about the ease of converting certain molds into animals, beast combiners just aren't happening in all likelyhood. Combiner wars is ending after next year, then it'll be back to the regularly scheduled generations stuff (with combiners possibly interspersed throughout the future)
Sorry to possibly ruin your evening.
I said Scramble City Combiners, meaning the G1 teams, and excluding newer "filler" combiners like Optimus Maximus, Galvatronus, and Victorion. Since we have 2/3 of the G1 rivalries (Superion and Menasor, Defensor and Bruticus), I was specifically talking about the next pair of rivals, not necessarily the next combiners to be released.
Are there other combiner rivals? Who is Computron's nemesis? Abominus? That purple griffon IS a rival of the aerialbots so he might be coming afterall
I was under the impression that Computron and Abominus were rivals, yes. And Superion seems to have moved past the Purple Griffon, unfortunately.
Although with Sky Lynx being a combiner now, the Griffon may actually have a weird place as HIS rival. Actually, now I want a retool of Sky Lynx into the Purple Griffon.
Since they came out roughly the same time and did battle with each other, I assumed the Predacons/Predaking were Sky Lynx's rivals.
william-james88 wrote:Gearslide wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sorry, there is a 99.9% chance that it will be Computron and Victorion. Has/tak don't seem to be into making entirely new molds, despite what I've said about the ease of converting certain molds into animals, beast combiners just aren't happening in all likelyhood. Combiner wars is ending after next year, then it'll be back to the regularly scheduled generations stuff (with combiners possibly interspersed throughout the future)
Sorry to possibly ruin your evening.
I said Scramble City Combiners, meaning the G1 teams, and excluding newer "filler" combiners like Optimus Maximus, Galvatronus, and Victorion. Since we have 2/3 of the G1 rivalries (Superion and Menasor, Defensor and Bruticus), I was specifically talking about the next pair of rivals, not necessarily the next combiners to be released.
Are there other combiner rivals? Who is Computron's nemesis? Abominus? That purple griffon IS a rival of the aerialbots so he might be coming afterall
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Shuttershock wrote:
Since they came out roughly the same time and did battle with each other, I assumed the Predacons/Predaking were Sky Lynx's rivals.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Hellscream9999 wrote:"Scramble city" is the moniker of the system at use here, irregardless of where it came from, or what nostalgia it might hold, in the absence of a term, that I know of, it is Scrambel city. Also there was no mention of rivals in your original statement, technically all these combiners G1 or otherwise are scramble city too, just is a different scale. I was basing mine around engineering and facts that we already have.
1) wholly new animal modes would be too expensive at this point is has/taks re-shelling strategy. (I could be wrong, until proven otherwise I maintain that this is the most logical conclusion)
2) we know bruticus and sky reign are up next, and if hasbro keeps a similar amount of figures for next year, there are two slots remaining. IF victorion is a regular retail release that would (most likely) be wave 3 next year, then that leaves computron (from the, apparently very, reliable toys-r-us computers) for wave 4.
3) this series was NEVER based on G1 rivalries, it was designed to fall in line with some comic series and made to be extremely efficient at designing large numbers of figures, ergo, the re-shelling. This is technically IDW cannon, I believe, adnd therefore 30 year old rivalries hold no basis of logic against all that I've said.
This does not mean that we will never see them after combiner wars is over; I specifically wrote about how easy it would be to design a set of animals with easily re-designed parts, I just don't think it will happen amidst all these vehicles, and that we have already seen 4 of the 4 teams next year. While MAYBE victorion could be a 'wave 5' set, I severely doubt it, as it would entail hasbro engineering and releasing a 5 wave, which would be very costly.
So once again, I am sorry to have ruined anyone's evening. It's not that I wanted to, but I felt the need to point this out, so people don't get their hopes up
william-james88 wrote:You havent ruined anything because you are half right. You are writing this in the Takara thread and there lies the problem. The Hasbro COmbiner Wars is linked to the comics but Takara's United Warriors isnt. At all. To the point that there is no alpha bravo. Takara's take on these is the utmost attention to G1 to the point where it might clash in colour scheme and scale (like Defensor). So all this talk of victorion and who's next doesnt really work here since these are two seperate lines with seperate toys and seperate ideologies.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote: Up until now tt has used all the molds hasbro has released (case in point the optimus supreme thing) therefore it should be logical to assume that they, too, will use skyreign and victorion along with bruticus and computron.
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