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william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote: Up until now tt has used all the molds hasbro has released (case in point the optimus supreme thing) therefore it should be logical to assume that they, too, will use skyreign and victorion along with bruticus and computron.
I would stop assuming, especially when that statement is not correct. Takara's deluxe Groove is an exclusive Takara mold. They will not be using Rook and the Hasbro legends groove is not part of this line (it has been redeco'd and will be part of the TAv ine with the robots in disguise toys). Also, their devastator features changes to the mold and new accessories. It is really best we look at these as different lines and not assume one from the other. Speculate, sure, be my guest, its fun. But assuming is a different thing all together.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Hellscream9999 wrote:That's fair, I was working under the idea that groove is/may be a pre-tool of the technobot, so hasbro would, conceivably, be using the same core figure as TT (tossing on a new front end on a mushroom peg doesn't really count as new or unique if hasbro is using it too), also, if TT is using the bruticus set, then tt will be using the rook core figure; wasn't really trying to split hairs, and realize that tt is making alot more changes as the series continues, but I was looking at it from the perspective of using core figures.
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:That's fair, I was working under the idea that groove is/may be a pre-tool of the technobot, so hasbro would, conceivably, be using the same core figure as TT (tossing on a new front end on a mushroom peg doesn't really count as new or unique if hasbro is using it too), also, if TT is using the bruticus set, then tt will be using the rook core figure; wasn't really trying to split hairs, and realize that tt is making alot more changes as the series continues, but I was looking at it from the perspective of using core figures.
I see, thanks for explaining. However, the sad news for Groove (and sorry if its my turn to ruin your evening) is that he seems to be made in house from Takara. The use of clear plastic really sets him apart from the hasbro deluxes. There is a good chance we might not see him, but who knows. Also, what confused me about your statements was that you were mentioning Victorion who has no new molds. So saying Takara will be using the "core molds" of Victorion is a bit redundant since they already used all it's molds. Hence why I suggest keeping these seperate so as not to confuse eachother.
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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I personally feel after Combiner Wars we will continue to see Combiners somewhat regularly.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I personally feel after Combiner Wars we will continue to see Combiners somewhat regularly.
Most definitely, I honestly think, that once has/tak has worked out a new design scheme for them, we will see a whole host of animal combiners
Sowndwave76 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I personally feel after Combiner Wars we will continue to see Combiners somewhat regularly.
Most definitely, I honestly think, that once has/tak has worked out a new design scheme for them, we will see a whole host of animal combiners
And I hope that when that happens, they make Predaking a Titan class combiner!!
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Hellscream9999 wrote:I hope this clears things up, I stand by my logic that TT probably won't just discard 2 whole teams just because, nor will they make whole new teams, unless they do it privately (exclusively in house funded only by them, for them) or unless hasbro is using them in 2017. If this isn't technically appropriate for this thread, please let me know.
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I hope this clears things up, I stand by my logic that TT probably won't just discard 2 whole teams just because, nor will they make whole new teams, unless they do it privately (exclusively in house funded only by them, for them) or unless hasbro is using them in 2017. If this isn't technically appropriate for this thread, please let me know.
Everything sounds good to me
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
There's more to it than just the clear plastic that points to Groove being a Takara-original mold like Prime War Breakdown, Jet Vehicon, Gaia Unicron, etc. were. But before I get into those other points, I'll address the clear plastic first.Hellscream9999 wrote:and big groove = technobot (I assume) (we aren't getting big groove, but we are getting his core figure for the technobot - if that comes to fruition) and teams (TT seems to be skipping the core mold cyclonus, but not skipping the optimus team)
Also I belive the clear plastic is relegated to the front of the cycle, which I mentioned, which seems like the entire assembly is attached via a hinge or mushroom peg, so it really isn't too difficult to swap it out.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:
So as far as can be told, this Unite Warriors Groove mold really looks to be a non-Hasbro product designed solely by Takara without regards to Hasbro's standards or input. And with Hasbro having already made a Legends Groove that still interacts with the Defensor combiner in some way, Hasbro very likely might feel contented enough with the Legends Groove to consider the Deluxe Groove as an unnecessary redundancy.
Would Hasbro use it, though? Or would they have already had their own plans for a toy of Afterburner all set to go independent from Takara's Groove?william-james88 wrote: But he meant we would see a hasbro version for this core mold through afterburner.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:said: quite a lot
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Sabrblade wrote:Would Hasbro use it, though? Or would they have already had their own plans for a toy of Afterburner all set to go independent from Takara's Groove?william-james88 wrote: But he meant we would see a hasbro version for this core mold through afterburner.
Sabrblade wrote:Would Hasbro use it, though? Or would they have already had their own plans for a toy of Afterburner all set to go independent from Takara's Groove?william-james88 wrote: But he meant we would see a hasbro version for this core mold through afterburner.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Someone at The Allspark managed to ask Hasbro at BotCon about Unite Warriors Groove getting a Hasbro release. The answer given was "eh, maybe, we'll see, we dunno"
Bugger.
I kinda think that would go without saying since, well, "new Liokaiser from Hasbro" is about as likely as "Liokaiser reissue from Hasbro", heh.william-james88 wrote:This just in: the odds are greater that we see deluxe groove from hasbro rather than an update to Liokaiser.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I kinda think that would go without saying since, well, "new Liokaiser from Hasbro" is about as likely as "Liokaiser reissue from Hasbro", heh.william-james88 wrote:This just in: the odds are greater that we see deluxe groove from hasbro rather than an update to Liokaiser.
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