Rated X wrote: All I ever said is tank megatrons are stupid in my opinion because I grew up in an era where parents didnt raise sissys.
So now anyone who thinks Megtron- the goddamn leader of the Decepticons and one of the most powerful Transformers to ever live- turning into a puny pistol that needs one of his subordinates to hold him to be of any use is a very stupid idea is a "sissy"? Nice, X.
We enjoyed the luxury of having realistic toy guns.
BACK IN MY DAY etc.
Megatron has since been neutered
Far from it! He can actually move on his own in alt mode now and he doesn't need Starscream to hold him to be of any use! If anything he's recieved an upgrade!
and the pro-neo crowd sugarcoats it by calling it an "update". I call it a disgrace.
Nobody cares what
you call it X.
On drag strip, other than his head and guns, his vintage G1 toy never had any purple. No purple thighs, highlights, etc. And his car mode should have red stripes not purple.
Yeah, and he looked bloody awful. The purple breaks up all that yellow and stops him looking like a cheese wedge.
As I said earlier, I believe the hasbro decos exist only as an excuse to justify takaras existance to come and save tbe day for G1 fans willing to pay a sometimes higher price. I say "sometimes" because this is not the place to start an Amiami vs. BBTS price debate. Bottom line is takara costs more through MOST outlets regardless of whos inflating the prices.
Oh not this shìt again.
When it comes to the term "updates" the whole concept itself is debatable. You have the camp of collectors who believe hasbro is "re-imagining" G1 characters because its some kind of vision of how the old characters would look in a modern era. (Im assuming your in that camp -I refer to it as the "pro-neo" crowd) Then you have the camp Im in that realizes these are kids toys and the reason the alt modes get "updated" is so kids will buy them. Lets face it, this is 2015 and kids wont think a VW bug or a vintage ironhide style van is cool. They wont buy it. It has nothing to do with a vision of being modernized. "Neo" is just a marketing gimmick to sell more toys to kids who wont play with 80s vehicles they cant relate to. And notice how only autobot cars (and microscopes and boomboxes) get the neo treatment. All the decepticons seem to retain their 1980s alt modes in the CHUG lines with the only exception being scourge.
Let's assume you're right and the reason characters get updates has nothing whatsoever to do with the designers getting sick of doing the same damn designs over and over again and wanting to do something different for a change, and that the real reason that the characters get updated is purely because kids won't buy toys based on 80s vehicles. Well so fùcking what? They're toys for children. Why should the desires of some sweaty manchild collector be more important than those of children- you know, the main market demographic that Hasbro sells to?
I dont count tank megatron because of the neutering factor.
And, you know, the fact a tank makes infinitely more sense than a gun.
For me an "update" simply means a plastic version of a G1 character thats not a brick like its 80s predecessor. It has articulation, advanced engineering, and cartoon accuracy that 1980s engineering did not allow a toy to have. Thats what I call an "update".
That isn't an update, that's a slavish recreation.
Wheter or not the alt mode is 1980s or modern is irrelavant.
It's certainly not irrelevant to whether the toy looks any good or not.
Third parties are a great example. Unique Toys Soundmixer transforms into an 80s boombox but its still an update because its not a brick and its a totally new mold. Same thing goes for Toyworld Hegemon, Unique Toys Mania King, MMC Hexatron, and Art Feather Bumblebee.
No, they aren't a great example. They cater exclusively to collectors and don't have to worry about catering to children.
With all these figures, the creators said "screw the neo alt mode, were staying old school"
And in the case of Hegemon the result was a hideously ugly toy with a stupid alt mode.
But that doesnt make those figures any less of an update than hasbros seekers, cyclonus, thunderwing, tankor, or skybyte who also retain their vintage alt modes in their CHUG incarnations. Other than articulation and modern engineering, hasbro chose not to change them.
Perhaps because there was no need to because they didn't look outdated or awful?
They only "update" the cars. (and boomboxes, microscopes, and guns lol) So the concept of an "update" having to be modern or neo is total BS.
Once again, because their previous alt modes were either outdated or just plain stupid looking.
What about comic characters in the CHUG line that got their first figure like straxus and jihaxus? Are they not updates even though they are in a line full of updates ? The same goes for MMCs DJD figures. Arent they updates too ? I say yes. Not because they updated a physical toy, but because they updated a concept into a tangible reality.
That is...not how an update works. If I have an idea for a car and then I buid that car I haven't "updated" it. I've brought it into existance. If on the other hand my dad had a blueprint for a car and I modified the design with modern tech and stylings and built that, that would be an update.
And with all these examples, they did not alter the alt modes so the younger generation or kids can relate to it.
Probably because there was no need, as cybertronic jets don't tend to go out of date.
They retained comic accuracy in both modes but its still an "update".
No it isn't.
So with my stance on "updates" being thoroughly explained, now hopefully you understand why I cringe on Hasbros addition of purple in drag strips deco just for the sake of being different.
I already understand why you cringe at it- because you're an imbecile who is convinced that nothing can surpass the aesthetic beauty of a poorly drawn kid's cartoon from the 80s.
Its one big marketing gimmick. Kids and the pro-neo crowd buy up the hasbro versions. G1 traditionalists like myself cringe. Then takara swoops in and saves the day.
Because it couldn't
possibly have anything to do with the larger collector market in Japan...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - the real purpose driving the so called "Asian market" takara has created with their cartoon acccurate decos.
Yes- money from the Jaoanese collector's market.
See here's the thing X. In Japan, Transformers isn't the only high profile robot toy brand. Far from it- stuff like Gundam models, Bandai's Soul of Chogokin line and many, many other brands are far more popular and well esteemed in the collector community in Japan (partly because the source material for a lot of these, especially the likes of Gundam and Macross, is a lot better than the Transformers cartoon). Faced with increased competition, Takara cannot afford to not give their products a premium level of attention- because sales to collectors actually matter to their overall sales. That just isn't the case in the US.
But then I wouldn't expect you to understand that so by all means, continue raving about your ludicrous conspiracy theories.
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