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Hellscream9999 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:I know there is as much paint on the hasbro version, but you guys have no idea how much a difference it is that Takara chose to paint the foot made by Mixmaster. It just gives it that extra G1 flare in Combined mode and makes up for the alt mode being different than G1.
Oh and while I have you all here, I wanted to show you why I get fired up a bit about being clear about what causes a difference in how much takara will cost an westerner over a local Hasbro product. This is from an actual article published on the TFSource blog discussing if Takara is better than Hasbro and tell me if you have any credibility for it:Takara toys cost more, so you would expect them to be ‘better’. Hasbro product is cheaper because it’s priced cheaper.it’s not so much ‘Takara is better’, but more along the lines of ‘you get what you pay for'Takara versions are regularly better than Hasbro ones because they tend to have a greater number and detail in paint applications. If that weren’t the case, it’d be rather difficult to justify the comparatively higher price.
Randomhero, it is articles like these that propagate the misinformation, which all refer to a higher price associated to the quality (or supposed quaity) rather than the simple fact that they arent distributed here. And these excerpts are from supposed references who turn out to, as we have learnt today, not know what they are talking about. The only reason TFSource charges more for Takara product than a Hasbro product is because of importing (they cant even buy directly from Takara), no other reason. None of it is linked to an actual difference in the product's quality or appearance.
Hah! I remember that controversial article by Maz very well.The so called "collectors cum experts" sources who were interviewed by Maz.
They're just about an expert in the field of astronomy as I am in the field of paleontology. ( I'm in the field of medicine fyi so you'll get my drift)
But being in the field of medicine doesn't blind me to the nuances of economics 101 which I passed despite the strong symptoms of narcolepsy that pervaded the course.
Extra accessory=extra expediture
Shipping=extra expenditure
Foreign exchange fluctuation= extar or less expediture
Customs fees=extra costs
Though in this instance, all the 'extra' stuff was supposed to be 'standard'; hasbro just chose to rip us off instead
fenrir72 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:I know there is as much paint on the hasbro version, but you guys have no idea how much a difference it is that Takara chose to paint the foot made by Mixmaster. It just gives it that extra G1 flare in Combined mode and makes up for the alt mode being different than G1.
Oh and while I have you all here, I wanted to show you why I get fired up a bit about being clear about what causes a difference in how much takara will cost an westerner over a local Hasbro product. This is from an actual article published on the TFSource blog discussing if Takara is better than Hasbro and tell me if you have any credibility for it:Takara toys cost more, so you would expect them to be ‘better’. Hasbro product is cheaper because it’s priced cheaper.it’s not so much ‘Takara is better’, but more along the lines of ‘you get what you pay for'Takara versions are regularly better than Hasbro ones because they tend to have a greater number and detail in paint applications. If that weren’t the case, it’d be rather difficult to justify the comparatively higher price.
Randomhero, it is articles like these that propagate the misinformation, which all refer to a higher price associated to the quality (or supposed quaity) rather than the simple fact that they arent distributed here. And these excerpts are from supposed references who turn out to, as we have learnt today, not know what they are talking about. The only reason TFSource charges more for Takara product than a Hasbro product is because of importing (they cant even buy directly from Takara), no other reason. None of it is linked to an actual difference in the product's quality or appearance.
Hah! I remember that controversial article by Maz very well.The so called "collectors cum experts" sources who were interviewed by Maz.
They're just about an expert in the field of astronomy as I am in the field of paleontology. ( I'm in the field of medicine fyi so you'll get my drift)
But being in the field of medicine doesn't blind me to the nuances of economics 101 which I passed despite the strong symptoms of narcolepsy that pervaded the course.
Extra accessory=extra expediture
Shipping=extra expenditure
Foreign exchange fluctuation= extar or less expediture
Customs fees=extra costs
Though in this instance, all the 'extra' stuff was supposed to be 'standard'; hasbro just chose to rip us off instead
Technically, Hasbro "ripping us" is kind of "harsh" They put out an order/investment/R & D for the molds to TT. That's money spent, then pay for the shipping from China back to North America at the lowest cost possible (hence we get the non enhanced domestic versions) at Hasbros biggest bottom line profit.. That's world wide distribution kimosabe (and most of the time, their distribution does suck I'fd give you that)
In TT's case, shipping from China to Japan won't be that high. It's only us gaijin who just hunger for their plastic crack which in turn has spawned the import figure market.
Another thing, concerning the pricing of two online shops we are speaking off and the prices quoted by seibertron's Japanese resident/contact, it was only recently that hlj's prices more or matched amiami's/hs. So most of the time back then, their prices were higher. maybe due to the competition (eco 101) that forced all online shops to put their prices at parity.
Plus you also have to contend on the recent economic policies implemented in Japan where Abe increased their taxes and devalued their Yen........and Japan still dropped into economic recession. Makes you head spin eh? So the parity in pricing may also be an offsoot of the Japanese government's economic policies as well.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, higher shipping costs I can buy... but I can't escape the feeling that hasbro is making more of a profit than you're letting on
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, higher shipping costs I can buy... but I can't escape the feeling that hasbro is making more of a profit than you're letting on
Now I am wondering if its advertising, since that is done locally and they are forced to pay in US$ currency, which is a bigger nominal expense than what japan would pay in their currency. And that expense goes into the toys' price as well. For sure the idea is that there is a difference in cost allocation, we just dont know what.
And thanks Fenrir for all that you are sharing. I am curious though, that MAZ article had controversy? Tell me more. I just found it when doing research for a list and couldnt believe the amount of dumb I was reading from so called experts. Every moment made me cringe and the sad part was that I realized this was just further propagating misinformation which I feel the need to keep correcting for some dumb reason (while fearing I become annoying about it).
Also, medicine is an awesome field, thanks for saving lives out there!
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, higher shipping costs I can buy... but I can't escape the feeling that hasbro is making more of a profit than you're letting on
Now I am wondering if its advertising, since that is done locally and they are forced to pay in US$ currency, which is a bigger nominal expense than what japan would pay in their currency. And that expense goes into the toys' price as well. For sure the idea is that there is a difference in cost allocation, we just dont know what.
And thanks Fenrir for all that you are sharing. I am curious though, that MAZ article had controversy? Tell me more. I just found it when doing research for a list and couldnt believe the amount of dumb I was reading from so called experts. Every moment made me cringe and the sad part was that I realized this was just further propagating misinformation which I feel the need to keep correcting for some dumb reason (while fearing I become annoying about it).
Also, medicine is an awesome field, thanks for saving lives out there!
What advertising? I haven't seen a tf toy commercial in years, nor any other advertising for the brand
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, higher shipping costs I can buy... but I can't escape the feeling that hasbro is making more of a profit than you're letting on
Now I am wondering if its advertising, since that is done locally and they are forced to pay in US$ currency, which is a bigger nominal expense than what japan would pay in their currency. And that expense goes into the toys' price as well. For sure the idea is that there is a difference in cost allocation, we just dont know what.
And thanks Fenrir for all that you are sharing. I am curious though, that MAZ article had controversy? Tell me more. I just found it when doing research for a list and couldnt believe the amount of dumb I was reading from so called experts. Every moment made me cringe and the sad part was that I realized this was just further propagating misinformation which I feel the need to keep correcting for some dumb reason (while fearing I become annoying about it).
Also, medicine is an awesome field, thanks for saving lives out there!
What advertising? I haven't seen a tf toy commercial in years, nor any other advertising for the brand
We newsed a bunch, ads are no longer just on tv. And i saw quite a few jurrasic park toy ads on tv last summer.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, higher shipping costs I can buy... but I can't escape the feeling that hasbro is making more of a profit than you're letting on
Now I am wondering if its advertising, since that is done locally and they are forced to pay in US$ currency, which is a bigger nominal expense than what japan would pay in their currency. And that expense goes into the toys' price as well. For sure the idea is that there is a difference in cost allocation, we just dont know what.
And thanks Fenrir for all that you are sharing. I am curious though, that MAZ article had controversy? Tell me more. I just found it when doing research for a list and couldnt believe the amount of dumb I was reading from so called experts. Every moment made me cringe and the sad part was that I realized this was just further propagating misinformation which I feel the need to keep correcting for some dumb reason (while fearing I become annoying about it).
Also, medicine is an awesome field, thanks for saving lives out there!
What advertising? I haven't seen a tf toy commercial in years, nor any other advertising for the brand
fenrir72 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, higher shipping costs I can buy... but I can't escape the feeling that hasbro is making more of a profit than you're letting on
Now I am wondering if its advertising, since that is done locally and they are forced to pay in US$ currency, which is a bigger nominal expense than what japan would pay in their currency. And that expense goes into the toys' price as well. For sure the idea is that there is a difference in cost allocation, we just dont know what.
And thanks Fenrir for all that you are sharing. I am curious though, that MAZ article had controversy? Tell me more. I just found it when doing research for a list and couldnt believe the amount of dumb I was reading from so called experts. Every moment made me cringe and the sad part was that I realized this was just further propagating misinformation which I feel the need to keep correcting for some dumb reason (while fearing I become annoying about it).
Also, medicine is an awesome field, thanks for saving lives out there!
What advertising? I haven't seen a tf toy commercial in years, nor any other advertising for the brand
Controversy as in me and Scottywolf iirc commented on that piece. Maz always puts up awesome Diaclone factoids but in that blog, he's sources were kind of off the mark.
You can even make an analogy on all consumer products the world over with regards to pricing practice. As for the medical field, yup, it's TF and some nasty hobbies I got that keeps me head screwed tightly on after everyday session of saving and losing lives. That and my family of course.
Appreciate the kind words wj88.
Okay, back to business. Whether we like it or not, the corporate slugs do run the world. Their bottomline is the bottomline. heck, I'm seething with righteous indignation when we keep on getting hollowed out figs compared to the previous years. Same with the medical supplies I'm also procuring for the A and E. Aside from saving lives, I also a consultant/manager with logistics as an added specialty so i know how to crunch numbers too.
Costs tacked in. R/D. Materials. Packaging. Advertising.Costs projected and the actual ones. Foreign currency fluctuations. We all have to deal with it.But our hobbies ain't what you would term "necessities" like water and food. So those "slugs' can virtually do anything they want (maybe I have to correct that as in oil/petrol is also a necessity and they still screw us up in the pump)
It's good that the free market allows us a "choice" when purchasing our plastic crack. TT, different plastic color, more for the "adult" fans. Hb, mass release. Are they shafting us dry? Maybe but I have the choice not to buy all their garbage
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
MemphisR56 wrote:in the end, it'll be one of those "my opinion is better than yours!" "Stop liking what I don't like!" discussions.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Bounti76 wrote:What's up with Scavenger having two different shades of purple on his treads?
AutobotAlvaron wrote: We need more YouTube reviews of this version, but I'm already sold!
william-james88 wrote:AutobotAlvaron wrote: We need more YouTube reviews of this version, but I'm already sold!
As far as I know, Takara doesnt send out review copies and unlike Hasbro, they run a really tight ship for release dates. Everyone gets their devastators at the same time, so those who preordered it might get it before there are full reviews of him.
MemphisR56 wrote:william-james88 wrote:AutobotAlvaron wrote: We need more YouTube reviews of this version, but I'm already sold!
As far as I know, Takara doesnt send out review copies and unlike Hasbro, they run a really tight ship for release dates. Everyone gets their devastators at the same time, so those who preordered it might get it before there are full reviews of him.
Dengeki Hobby put up a video review (which was horrible, the hamhanded lady snapped the leg off of bonecrusher and couldn't transform thr damn thing with the instructions right in front of her) do you think that means he's ready to drop? I could be getting my preorder filled any day now?
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