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[william-james88]

SOLD! I'll take two, please!

Takara has knocked it out of the park with Sky Reign/Lynx Master. Everything about it is an improvement over Hasbro's release. You can't even quibble on the color choices either, like some do with UW Bruticus, or the mold choices, like with CW vs. UW Computron. Now, let's just hope this isn't the most expensive Unite Warriors release yet.

It is. All the other UW combiners were 15000 yen on TTMall, this one is higher by about 12$.

Will Ratchet be available separately?

No, but I too wish it would be.

I dont get the fuss over wheeljack though, there seems to be so much white still.

[Munkky]

Lynxmaster looks great, I'm going to get one as soon as it becomes available. Ratchet does look a bit plain, but I'm just happy that the figure exists at all. I'm not really fond of Trailbreaker or Wheeljack, they look a bit too cartoon accurate for my liking, I have Hasbro Combiner Wars Wheeljack (with Reprolabels) already, and I think I like Hasbro's Trailbreaker a little bit more.

[Sabrblade]

I dont get the fuss over wheeljack though, there seems to be so much white still.

No more than there's supposed to be, considering how G1 Wheeljack is supposed to be a white bot.

Whereas Hasbro's Wheeljack was severely lacking in most any other color, Takara's Wheeljack does have more colors.

[william-james88]

I dont get the fuss over wheeljack though, there seems to be so much white still.

No more than there's supposed to be, considering how G1 Wheeljack is supposed to be a white bot.

Whereas Hasbro's Wheeljack was severely lacking in most any other color, Takara's Wheeljack does have more colors.

Thats a matter of perspective. Hasbro has more of a colour mix with the green and red in robot mode, Takara doesnt.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I dont get the fuss over wheeljack though, there seems to be so much white still.

No more than there's supposed to be, considering how G1 Wheeljack is supposed to be a white bot.

Whereas Hasbro's Wheeljack was severely lacking in most any other color, Takara's Wheeljack does have more colors.

Thats a matter of perspective. Hasbro has more of a colour mix with the green and red in robot mode, Takara doesnt.

At the same time, there were bit spots missing paint where it was needed most, like the chest windows and the arms. A little bit of black or blue on the chest and some black on the arms and he would have been perfect. He had a good bit of paint in V-mode, just needed some more in bot mode, needed better placement of paint apps

[william-james88]

I dont get the fuss over wheeljack though, there seems to be so much white still.

No more than there's supposed to be, considering how G1 Wheeljack is supposed to be a white bot.

Whereas Hasbro's Wheeljack was severely lacking in most any other color, Takara's Wheeljack does have more colors.

Thats a matter of perspective. Hasbro has more of a colour mix with the green and red in robot mode, Takara doesnt.

At the same time, there were bit spots missing paint where it was needed most, like the chest windows and the arms. A little bit of black or blue on the chest and some black on the arms and he would have been perfect. He had a good bit of paint in V-mode, just needed some more in bot mode, needed better placement of paint apps

I agree. I am also not saying that Hasbro's Wheeljack is better, just saying that I am not head over heals for Takara's. I never cared for Sky Reign as a combiner to begin with so Takara coming out with their super exclusive version which is slightly better than Hasbro's in terms of some paint apps isn't all that impressive to me. I am really curious how many people will actually still be getting this guy when the price from importers is revealed. Unlike Grand Galvatron, we do have a local option with a different limb, as per usual.

[jarvy89]

I'm glad I can skip this one and buy only Sky Lynx, since there are no new molds. I'll wait for both UW Bruticus and Computron, those look great. And I think I'll go dor the G2 Menasor set, I bought the Optimus Maximus (missing Prowl and Ironhide), the Motormaster mold it's not bad on hand but not worth all that money.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I dont get the fuss over wheeljack though, there seems to be so much white still.

No more than there's supposed to be, considering how G1 Wheeljack is supposed to be a white bot.

Whereas Hasbro's Wheeljack was severely lacking in most any other color, Takara's Wheeljack does have more colors.

Thats a matter of perspective. Hasbro has more of a colour mix with the green and red in robot mode, Takara doesnt.

At the same time, there were bit spots missing paint where it was needed most, like the chest windows and the arms. A little bit of black or blue on the chest and some black on the arms and he would have been perfect. He had a good bit of paint in V-mode, just needed some more in bot mode, needed better placement of paint apps

I agree. I am also not saying that Hasbro's Wheeljack is better, just saying that I am not head over heals for Takara's. I never cared for Sky Reign as a combiner to begin with so Takara coming out with their super exclusive version which is slightly better than Hasbro's in terms of some paint apps isn't all that impressive to me. I am really curious how many people will actually still be getting this guy when the price from importers is revealed. Unlike Grand Galvatron, we do have a local option with a different limb, as per usual.

Gotchya! I like Sky Lynx by himself so he's pretty much staying that way, but Ratchet... I wanted him bad

[o.supreme]

May mayhem 2017 might have Hasbro introduce the CW Ratchet figure who knows. Still, this is nice. I can get CW Smokescreen now, and await the release of Lynx Master.

[Agamemnon]

May mayhem 2017 might have Hasbro introduce the CW Ratchet figure who knows. Still, this is nice. I can get CW Smokescreen now, and await the release of Lynx Master.

I'd like to say that since Ratchet was a convention exclusive in the US, probably not. Then again, there was that Botcon Thundercracker, Thrust, and Dirge that all got released in the US after Takara released (slightly remolded) versions of Thrust and Dirge. One can hope.

On the other hand, it looks like I will have a $150 Ratchet coming... (Well, I love how Wheeljack looks, so will probably replace him on my shelf too.)

[kurthy]

Well, after I get this set, my son will have his own hasbro combiner of silverbolt, rook, wheeljack, hound, and trailbreaker, so it works out well for him. Not so much for my pocket book.

[Rodimus Knight]

You Know, I'd just like to actually find Sky Lynx in the stores at some point here. It's almost getting to the point of having to order the Takara Versions just to get the figures.

[ZeroWolf]

I'm not too impressed with this set If I'm honest, sky lynx isn't that different and the others aren't that different for me and rachet isn't a necessity. also wheeljack looks quite boring there, it needs the green.

[steals_your_goats]

This set doesn't really impress me. I like Hasbros sky lynx better, Wheeljack and Trailbreaker with repro labels look better to me than these ones. Really the only two I want are ratchet and hound. So, that being said I'm still buying the set for those two. If anyone's interested in the rest of, or parts of it and a Hasbro hound with reprolabels let me know!

[william-james88]

I'm not too impressed with this set If I'm honest, sky lynx isn't that different and the others aren't that different for me and rachet isn't a necessity. also wheeljack looks quite boring there, it needs the green.

THANK YOU! I thought I was alone. I really feel many of us are a bit blinded by the exclusivity/recency and the fact that this once again has a toy the US version didnt come with. It feels like UW Defensor all over again.

May mayhem 2017 might have Hasbro introduce the CW Ratchet figure who knows. Still, this is nice. I can get CW Smokescreen now, and await the release of Lynx Master.

It was Hasbro which imposed the Ratchet head onto fun pub to use because they werent going to release it. Same with Reflector. They gave it to them because there was no plan for a retail release on theri part. So, Ratchet has as much chance as a retail Hasbro release as Rflector, take that as you wish.

Gotchya! I like Sky Lynx by himself so he's pretty much staying that way, but Ratchet... I wanted him bad

While the alt mode suits him, his robot mode looks off with the back kibble, he really doesnt look like Ratchet aside from the head. If he was on a retail shelf in the same wave as Ironhide and wasnt an exclusive, would you still feel the same way? Or is it that you just really like Ratchet? But even then, his colours are totally different from IDW Ratchet to the point that both could be seen as different characters:

[Microraptor]

That Ratchet is pretty, but the slight increase of paint apps doesn't justify the near 50% price increase.

[Microraptor]

Gotchya! I like Sky Lynx by himself so he's pretty much staying that way, but Ratchet... I wanted him bad

While the alt mode suits him, his robot mode looks off with the back kibble, he really doesnt look like Ratchet aside from the head. If he was on a retail shelf in the same wave as Ironhide and wasnt an exclusive, would you still feel the same way? Or is it that you just really like Ratchet? But even then, his colours are totally different from IDW Ratchet to the point that both could be seen as different characters:

So? It looks cool, isn't that all that matters?

[william-james88]

So? It looks cool, isn't that all that matters?

I dont think it looks that cool. It looks like First Aid.

[Microraptor]

So? It looks cool, isn't that all that matters?

I dont think it looks that cool. It looks like First Aid.

I see the resemblance, but I think they did a good job making them both distinct. Plus, isn't First Aid cool looking?

[Hellscream9999]

So? It looks cool, isn't that all that matters?

I dont think it looks that cool. It looks like First Aid.

I see the resemblance, but I think they did a good job making them both distinct. Plus, isn't First Aid cool looking?

meh... I've seen plenty cooler

[william-james88]

So? It looks cool, isn't that all that matters?

I dont think it looks that cool. It looks like First Aid.

I see the resemblance, but I think they did a good job making them both distinct. Plus, isn't First Aid cool looking?

Hahahaha, you got me there. Yes, I do like first aid and I do think he looks cool. And that backpack he gets works really well for him:



But Ratchet ends up looking very similar, especially in vehicle mode. And that Backpack doesnt work as well. He ends up looking less distinct. I never picked up Ironhide at retail, I am not sure if I would have picked up Ratchet at full price if he was available too.



I just meant to say that the first aid mold looks better for first aid and Ratchet doesnt bring that much more to it to distiguish it and own it as his (unlike, say, Hound and Swindle).

But please remember when reading my words that this is partly me talking myself out of something I know I cant afford

[o.supreme]

Those shots from IDW MTME make me so glad the Takara versions are sticking with the original Animated series look. First Aid is still somewhat recognizable, but Ratchet looks nothing like the character I've come to know over the years.

[Microraptor]

So? It looks cool, isn't that all that matters?

I dont think it looks that cool. It looks like First Aid.

I see the resemblance, but I think they did a good job making them both distinct. Plus, isn't First Aid cool looking?

Hahahaha, you got me there. Yes, I do like first aid and I do think he looks cool. And that backpack he gets works really well for him:



But Ratchet ends up looking very similar, especially in vehicle mode. And that Backpack doesnt work as well. He ends up looking less distinct. I never picked up Ironhide at retail, I am not sure if I would have picked up Ratchet at full price if he was available too.



I just meant to say that the first aid mold looks better for first aid and Ratchet doesnt bring that much more to it to distiguish it and own it as his (unlike, say, Hound and Swindle).


But please remember when reading my words that this is partly me talking myself out of something I know I cant afford

Makes sense. To be honest the two have always looked pretty similar to me, since they're both red and white ambulance dudes. I do agree that a Swindle-level retool would have better, but that would have been cost prohibitive.

Honestly I wish they pulled a GO! Ratchet and gave him his movie colors.

[william-james88]

Makes sense. To be honest the two have always looked pretty similar to me, since they're both red and white ambulance dudes. I do agree that a Swindle-level retool would have better, but that would have been cost prohibitive.

Honestly I wish they pulled a GO! Ratchet and gave him his movie colors.

Thats cool, I like how we all have different things we like. But to be honest, this Ratchet is fine, just not that special. It's no different than any of the other G1 autobots using combiner limb bodies. All I meant in this was that Ratchet being here isn't selling me this combiner which I never really cared for anyway. Especially not at the price it will go for (150$ min).

Oh and while I might be beating a dead horse, this is further proof that while Takara is great, they are not God and havent fullfilled the fans' dreams to have Skylynx retooled to seperate the lynx from the bird.

PS: I am now wondering if some Japanese fans are now checking e-bay feaverishly to see if they can get a Smokescreen for a decent price No joke, Alpha Bravo is a hot commodity in Japan due to his Hasbro exclusivity.

[Wolfman Jake]

PS: I am now wondering if some Japanese fans are now checking e-bay feaverishly to see if they can get a Smokescreen for a decent price No joke, Alpha Bravo is a hot commodity in Japan due to his Hasbro exclusivity.

How about the likes of Offroad and Rook? Are they hot items for Japanese collectors too? I wonder if any are salivating over the TFSS 4.0 Thunder Mayhem guys. They're a bit niche being G1 Marvel comics characters, but less so than brand new characters. But then again, Japan has gotten a lot of mileage out of retroactive G1 characters of late.