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[King Kuuga]

That's also not U.S. packaging. That's international packaging.

Which we've technically gotten in the states before, since CW wave 1 comics weren't ready when they had to ship. I know Hasbro prefers to give us the comic packaging, but I don't think they'd ruffle too many feathers if the multilingual packaging was released in the US and other NA territories.

It also recycles the old Transformers Legends mobile game artwork for Groove

Not surprising since a lot of figures in the line used Legends artwork, even if it's radically different from the toy design. Flipping through the cards I have, Skydive, Dragstrip, Silverbolt, Motormaster, Hot Spot, and Megatron all use Legends art that is clearly not of their CW toy.

and appears to be virtually unchanged from Takara's deco.

Good news!

This is more than likely the Taiwan TRU exclusive, cobbled together by Hasbro Asia.

I remain cautiously optimistic, but I'll nab one on the secondary market if I have to.

[william-james88]

Uh, when? I checked the last few pages and nada. I think you're thinking of the Legends thread where you compared Predacus to the Legends EX Beast Wars guys. Or something else entirely.

As for Groove, I hope he gets a North American release somehow. I want him so.
Now here's a question. Can anybody spot any differences from the Takara version? I know it's a low-quality packaged shot, but it's a start.

Bah, Cobotron wrote the same line in the combiner wars thread where I answered this: transformers-generations-combiner-wars-discussion-thread-p1775190.php#p1775019
Which is similar to Sabr's response.

Anyways, there is a different between Hasbro and Takara. The motorcycle stand is black on one and white on the other. I am sure we will see more once people get this one in hand.

[Counterpunch]

I got my Grand Convoy in last night. He's as grand as expected. Every figure except for Ironhide is a step up in terms of presentation with Sunstreaker and Mirage being the best of the bunch.

Prime is overall better, but I really wish they had added decos to his matrix chamber.

Prowl is mostly the same, but I prefer the color scheme from Takara. Plus, every CW Prowl I saw when I was buying had uneven paint on his head crest, so this worked out for me.

Ironhide is more cartoon-ish, but I actually like the Hasbro colors better over all. It doesn't help that there is a partial thumbprint in my Takara version's striping. QQ

[william-james88]

This is more than likely the Taiwan TRU exclusive, cobbled together by Hasbro Asia.

I remain cautiously optimistic, but I'll nab one on the secondary market if I have to.

Well now you can, here it is:

http://www.robotkingdom.com/gen16dlxgroove.html

[Va'al]

Courtesy of some scans of a hobby magazine, via Facebook page Planet Iacon, we have some teaser look at confirmed upcoming products from Takara Tomy, in a number of lines! The first batch is in the Unite Warriors line, as the recently repeatedly teased Computron shows up - check out the silhouettes for each individual Technobot figure, too, below.

[Burn]

huh ... so no Cosmos repaint (rumoured Scrounge) from these guys.

Might go with Hasbro this time.

[steals_your_goats]

Really liking the Rook remold, bot mode looks about the same as expected but alt mode is pretty different. Definitely getting both sets since they're shaping up to be quite different.

[Sigma Magnus]

Once again, dangit Takara! Now I HAVE to get both and mix-and-match...anyone have an estimate on how much these'll cost?

[steals_your_goats]

Once again, dangit Takara! Now I HAVE to get both and mix-and-match...anyone have an estimate on how much these'll cost?

It's going to be a standard release so it's 15000 yen which would be about $135 in freedom bucks. If you import there will be discounts depending on which site you choose. Anime export will most likely have a 30% discount so it'll be around $95 but they typically sell out quick.

[Alpha Dominus]

*GASP* That Strafe silhouette actually looks like Strafe! Now if the other Technobots would just follow suit...

[MGrotusque]

I thought we were supposed to see new hands and feet with Computron?

[Hellscream9999]

I thought we were supposed to see new hands and feet with Computron?

Nope they're only on the hasbro release

[william-james88]

Once again, dangit Takara! Now I HAVE to get both and mix-and-match...anyone have an estimate on how much these'll cost?

Both would cost you about 250$ shipped.

I dont need to mix and match anything, just take takara as this looks awesome! I already have the cosmos mold anyway and no need for fancy feet when that means the scramble city combiners dont all stand as tall.

Now we know 2 additonal things:

1: this comes out in august

2: afterburner is supposed to have that canopy windshiwld folded down

I dont think we lose whichever version we get as they all have new stuff and while takara might be the way to go I just want to see both before making up my choice. But regardles I dont think we'll need to mix and match too much.

[Sabrblade]

Scattershot = CW Scattershot mold
Afterburner = UW Groove mold
Strafe = UW Blast Off mold
Lightspeed = CW Wheeljack mold
Nosecone = CW Rook mold

[Powered Convoy]

Each figure has new guns based on their G1 guns. Even the Hasbro Scattershot and Afterburner don't include them.

Scattershot is also not the same as Hasbro's due to the retooling of Computron's chest and head (who knows if other changes exist).

Randy

[Sabrblade]

Scattershot is also not the same as Hasbro's due to the retooling of Computron's chest and head (who knows if other changes exist).

I meant that it uses that same mold as a base, much like how Nosecone uses the Rook mold but not without changes to the mold.

[TF-fan kev777]

For anyone on the fence about whether to go Hasbro or Takara on this, I'm leaning Takara.

I'm thinking that since 1) Hasbro's G2 Bruticus still uses the Firefly/Slingshot mold, and 2) Takara has now retooled shuttle blast off, that we actually may not see a Hasbro shuttle blast off release. So, since I already have Hasbro Bruticus (I really don't mind Blast Off as a jet), Going Takara for Computron at least gets me a version of the blast off mold which I don't have.

[YoungPrime]

Still can't tell if either will be using Swindle's hands or Rook's nubbs.

[Autobot N]

Welp, I guess I'm getting the UW version.

[Flashwave]

I normally don't mind the Hasbro releases, but as we are duelling Boxsets here, I love that hellacious drill on Nosecone, much moreso than on the Brawl mold, and the Blast Off Mold will forever elude me. ot so heartset on the Cosmos repaint either, I don't need a Scrounge unless its out of the FOC diskbots and the HFG are Fne By Me. I don't like the Wheeljack mold arms, but the combined mode has proven consistently more stable than the swinging socket on Dead End/Streetwise/et al.

[Autobot N]

I hope two things about Nosecone:

1: The drill is removable, so Comp can have a drill hand.
2: He has Rook's nubs, so he can have a hulk hand and a giant drill (if it's removable).

[Easy Tiger]

I'm not seeing things, am I? The lower legs of Lightspeed are definately from the Wheeljack mold, aren't they?

[Autobot N]

I'm not seeing things, am I? The lower legs of Lightspeed are definetely from the Wheeljack mold, aren't they?

Yes, they are. That's the only thing I don't like about this set.

[TF-fan kev777]

I hope two things about Nosecone:

1: The drill is removable, so Comp can have a drill hand.
2: He has Rook's nubs, so he can have a hulk hand and a giant drill (if it's removable).

I've got to believe the drill is removable since I believe there is already a 5mm port on the front of Rook, so they would only need to create the new drill piece for the alt mode. Leg mode would likely need a minor retool or additional partsform to connect the drill in the toy accurate downward position. This would likely also work for bot mode as well

[Gearslide]

I'm not seeing things, am I? The lower legs of Lightspeed are definetely from the Wheeljack mold, aren't they?

Yes, they are. That's the only thing I don't like about this set.

To be fair though, CW Wheeljack has by far the closest vehicle mode to G1 Lightspeed out of all the available car molds in Combiner Wars...

G1 Lightspeed:


CW Dead End/Brake-neck Mold:


CW Breakdown Mold/Sunstreaker:


CW Streetwise/Prowl/Smokescreen Mold:


CW Wheeljack Mold: