The Energon Pub

[Sabrblade]

The real problem in all of this scale talk isn't that Devastator's too big. It's that Superion, Menasor, Ultra Prime, Galvatronus, Optimus Maximus, Bruticus, Sky Reign, and Victorion are all too SMALL.

[Wolfman Jake]

Once again, Sabr nails it. But we can't get ALL of the combiners at Devastator's scale. It wouldn't be financially feasible for Hasbro to put out nothing but Voyager class figures for a year or two. I appreciate that Devastator is set apart from the "Scramble City" crowd with his size. He's large and in charge as the first combiner to hit the scene in 1984. He deserves to be a bigger bot than the rest of the lot.

[Gearslide]

Hmmm... All this demand for a smaller Devastator makes me wonder if we'll see a company down the road make a knock-off of the Constructicons that are smaller scaled to be the same height as the other teams in combined mode.

[Sabrblade]

Hmmm... All this demand for a smaller Devastator makes me wonder if we'll see a company down the road make a knock-off of the Constructicons that are smaller scaled to be the same height as the other teams in combined mode.

I don't see that happening since both Giant and Hercules both fulfilled the need for a Supreme Class-sized Devastator made of six Deluxe-sized figures (as opposed to a Titan class-sized one made of us six Voyager-sized figures) quite a while ago, and I can't see yet a third 3rd-party Devastator being any cheaper than either of those two.

[Emerje]

The real problem in all of this scale talk isn't that Devastator's too big. It's that Superion, Menasor, Ultra Prime, Galvatronus, Optimus Maximus, Bruticus, Sky Reign, and Victorion are all too SMALL.

Yep, this. 20 years from now I fully expect Leader class torsos and Voyager limbs for all.

Actually the way Takara Tomy improved these I'm really not against sticking the Constructicons with MPs. Articulated hands be damned, most Voyagers look pretty good with MPs. They'll be just a little taller than an MP car which is a good size I think.

Emerje

[fenrir72]

The real problem in all of this scale talk isn't that Devastator's too big. It's that Superion, Menasor, Ultra Prime, Galvatronus, Optimus Maximus, Bruticus, Sky Reign, and Victorion are all too SMALL.

Scale talk issues from not more than five posters not less than one. So it ain't a big issue really except for space or funding availability. Let's all be honest, it's money out of our wallets again and hopefully our pockets can still sustain it by Christmas or early January.

[shajaki]

My speculation of price:

[Hellscream9999]

My speculation of price:

So what would that roughly translate to, and what would shipping from amiami cost to have it sent to Illinois? (never imported anything, so I don't know how the process woks)

[Sabrblade]

My speculation of price:

So what would that roughly translate to,

18400 yen = ~$149.59 USD

[Hellscream9999]

My speculation of price:

So what would that roughly translate to,

18400 yen = ~$149.59 USD

So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?

[Ultra Markus]

$219 is very do-able!

[william-james88]

So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?

Taxes differ by country and if customs choses your pack or not. Shipping would be about 50$ US or less I suppose.

[Hellscream9999]

So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?

Taxes differ by country and if customs choses your pack or not. Shipping would be about 50$ US or less I suppose.

So essentially, shipping is going to be so outrageous, I could go with tfscource and score some points and get free shipping, and not have to deal with extraneous complications? Sounds like a solid deal to me. Who're you using to get him? amiami?

[william-james88]

So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?

Taxes differ by country and if customs choses your pack or not. Shipping would be about 50$ US or less I suppose.

So essentially, shipping is going to be so outrageous, I could go with tfscource and score some points and get free shipping, and not have to deal with extraneous complications? Sounds like a solid deal to me. Who're you using to get him? amiami?

Yup, I will be using amiami, or HLJ, whoever. You being in the states, you have a ton of options. In the end, everyone will get him for anywhere between 220-250$ US shipped, not below. You will get that by using TF source with their free shipping. Me in Canada (and a ton of other international places) will have to rely on a cheaper japan website so that we pay to import it ourselves. What sucks about BBTS or TFsource for non americans is that you are paying shipping twice. Once in terms of the premium those sites give you to cover their importing costs and the second time is the actual shipping. While you might find the shipping outrageous, that is exactly how much it costs to ship something from BBTS to Canada.

Amiami does give me points too though, so thats fun.

Anyways all I meant to say is that the talk of cheaper retailers is not to beat the BBTS price, it is to end up getting that same price shipped when out of the states.

[MemphisR56]

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet,

Unite Warriors Devastator Preorders are open on Kapow Toys, £1.50 deposit.

Projected full price is £150 - £180.

Preordered mine last night.

http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformers-unite-warriors-uw-04-devastator-deposit.html

[noctorro]

I want Takara Devastator in my life.

Now more then ever.

[fenrir72]

UW-01 just arrived.I'm speechless. First time I got a new combiner and he looks good. The transform sequence kind of intricate but intelligent. They "flipped" Silverbolt this time.

The colors so vibrant.......I'm gonna get the Ocean decals to even make him more awesome.

Quite surprising though that TFYUki added Powerglide in his twitter pics yet PG isn't mentioned at all in the instruction manual.

2 months more then Menasor commeth!

[Cobotron]

UW-01 just arrived.I'm speechless. First time I got a new combiner and he looks good.

HooooRAY!
Congrats Fen. I'm glad your happy with him. The wait must have been a killer. Especially with us waving our combiners in your face for the last several months.
Have fun wit dem robits buddy!

[fenrir72]

UW-01 just arrived.I'm speechless. First time I got a new combiner and he looks good.

HooooRAY!
Congrats Fen. I'm glad your happy with him. The wait must have been a killer. Especially with us waving our combiners in your face for the last several months.
Have fun wit dem robits buddy!

You are very much welcomed kimosabe! Even more painful is the Devy wait I hope this version of Superion won't have that cracking parts like the one reported by one of our members.

[shajaki]

Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?

[william-james88]

Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?

Him and I both and I havent even recieved by Ta superion yet I really hope he isnt held at customs, that would suck HARD.

[Hellscream9999]

So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?

Taxes differ by country and if customs choses your pack or not. Shipping would be about 50$ US or less I suppose.

So essentially, shipping is going to be so outrageous, I could go with tfscource and score some points and get free shipping, and not have to deal with extraneous complications? Sounds like a solid deal to me. Who're you using to get him? amiami?

Yup, I will be using amiami, or HLJ, whoever. You being in the states, you have a ton of options. In the end, everyone will get him for anywhere between 220-250$ US shipped, not below. You will get that by using TF source with their free shipping. Me in Canada (and a ton of other international places) will have to rely on a cheaper japan website so that we pay to import it ourselves. What sucks about BBTS or TFsource for non americans is that you are paying shipping twice. Once in terms of the premium those sites give you to cover their importing costs and the second time is the actual shipping. While you might find the shipping outrageous, that is exactly how much it costs to ship something from BBTS to Canada.

Amiami does give me points too though, so thats fun.

Anyways all I meant to say is that the talk of cheaper retailers is not to beat the BBTS price, it is to end up getting that same price shipped when out of the states.

The only reason I would use bbts over tfscource now, is that bbts breaks up wave cases, and since they're based in the state next door, it takes about 4 days to ship stuff to me

[fenrir72]

Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?

And you wonder why at certain times I go ballistic? Seeing all of you play with your figures while I broil and fester waiting for the last 6 months when I could have easily purchased the TRU versions with the exception of going through heck just to find Quickslinger

Yup, that's me.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?

And you wonder why at certain times I go ballistic? Seeing all of you play with your figures while I broil and fester waiting for the last 6 months when I could have easily purchased the TRU versions with the exception of going through heck just to find Quickslinger

Yup, that's me.

You do realise Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are online-only, right? There was one single store sighting, but consider that one a fluke.

[Hellscream9999]

Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?

And you wonder why at certain times I go ballistic? Seeing all of you play with your figures while I broil and fester waiting for the last 6 months when I could have easily purchased the TRU versions with the exception of going through heck just to find Quickslinger

Yup, that's me.

You do realise Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are online-only, right? There was one single store sighting, but consider that one a fluke.

To be fair, he could have picked up a/b, rook and offroad and cyclonus; if he is going all in on the uw line and wanted a combiner