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Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:37 pm

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:42 pm

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby galvatron00 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:46 pm

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Cobotron wrote:Is anyone else seeing the discombobulation in the format/layout of these posts?
There's one set that got messed up, but the ones I post look amazing :-D
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:50 pm

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Cobotron wrote:Is anyone else seeing the discombobulation in the format/layout of these posts?
There's one set that got messed up, but the ones I post look amazing :-D
:roll: Yeeeees Cram, everything you do is AMAZING. :-P

How 'bout my Rook-arm canon mount though? Pretty AMAZING, right? :P

See kids, now that's how you get back on topic.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby galvatron00 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:56 pm

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Cobotron wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Is anyone else seeing the discombobulation in the format/layout of these posts?
There's one set that got messed up, but the ones I post look amazing :-D
:roll: Yeeeees Cram, everything you do is AMAZING. :-P

How 'bout my Rook-arm canon mount though? Pretty AMAZING, right? :P

See kids, now that's how you get back on topic.
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Yeah, that's baller :-D Insert orange cannon extension, move 'Screamer and other flying guy to leg mode (for proper knee caps), move other leg bot from another continuity to arm, instant mega arm Galvatron(us). :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby galvatron00 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:59 pm

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I do think I like the purpleness of USDM Cyclonus over JDM Cyclonus.

That's just me.

'Cause purple Galvatron.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Gearslide » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:12 pm

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itscramtastic wrote:I do think I like the purpleness of USDM Cyclonus over JDM Cyclonus.

That's just me.

'Cause purple Galvatron.


Well,

CW Cyclonus has a G1 Toy Accurate Cyclonus and G1 Cartoon Accurate Galvatron.

UW Cyclonus has a G1 Cartoon Accurate Cyclonus and G1 Toy Accurate Galvatron.

So it's a personal preference I suppose.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:13 pm

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That would be the best configuration due to knee pads and the face that the Rook mold definitely gives a better arm cannon! :BOT:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Optimum Supreme » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:33 pm

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BREAKDOWN! Great, another figure of the guy we'll never get. I can't affort import prices...

Sure looks sweet, though. Like the other limbs too, other than Roller (wtf). Really should have released guys like that at mass US retail instead of torsos with no limbs.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Dr. Caelus » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:39 pm

The semi-tangible Ghost Starscream makes me think of the Ring Wraiths in Lord of the Rings. They're able to interact with the environment, and be injured, so they're not really 'ghosts' like the Oathbreakers, but they're not entirely 'there' either. The whole thing is both weird, and makes sense, when you consider that Galvatron, who vaporized Starscream's body, is himself a ghost in this case, so his possession of Cyclonus, who's very much alive, could be some sort of bridge to the nether-world.

And imagine all of the implications it has for how the combiner would hold up in a fight. I can imagine Starscream jumping to other combiners and possessing their limbs, or acting through an astral force, letting the Galvatron combiner do crazy telekinetic stuff with his ghost hand.

It also feels like there's something of a tie in to D-Void and the Sweeps there. I almost wish some of this would be pulled into IDW at some point.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:21 pm

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itscramtastic wrote:
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I really like that the combiner peg is G1 Seeker canopy yellow, right there in the center of his body, where his G1 cockpit would be in G1 robot mode. This set is really exciting in my opinion.
Congrats on completing your Ghosts! I'm just so used to seeing that color on Starscreams' chest I didn't even think about how it matches perfectly.

What if they made it translucent?! :shock:
Good eye Dagon! I was trying to figure out why it was yellow. Didn't even occur to me it was the cockpit. Probably can't cast that part in translucent plastic because it needs to be of softer plastic to withstand the riggers of play. But clear would have looked dope.

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Translucent parts make slagging components. Many a figure have met their demise due to breakage issues. Figma ver.1 Blackrock Shooter, RID Prowl2 and iirc, supermode TAV BB. :(
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:28 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Translucent parts make slagging components. Many a figure have met their demise due to breakage issues. Figma ver.1 Blackrock Shooter, RID Prowl2 and iirc, supermode TAV BB. :(


Odd how x-brawn had a full clear plastic shell but was super solid.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot Roadburn » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:30 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Translucent parts make slagging components. Many a figure have met their demise due to breakage issues. Figma ver.1 Blackrock Shooter, RID Prowl2 and iirc, supermode TAV BB. :(


Did that TAV Bee seriously have breakage issues? That must have been awful.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:39 pm

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Autobot Roadburn wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Translucent parts make slagging components. Many a figure have met their demise due to breakage issues. Figma ver.1 Blackrock Shooter, RID Prowl2 and iirc, supermode TAV BB. :(


Did that TAV Bee seriously have breakage issues? That must have been awful.


Translucent plastic only becomes a real issue when it's used for joints or in places where it suffers a lot of stress. Being more rigid, it doesn't bend, it just snaps. Looking at Starscream, he should be fine for the most part as most problematic areas (upper legs, shoulder balls, hips and connector peg) use opaque plastic instead and he has closed fist holes:

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Just don't force anything on him, and you'll be just fine.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:56 pm

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Gearslide wrote:Well,

CW Cyclonus has a G1 Toy Accurate Cyclonus and G1 Cartoon Accurate Galvatron.

UW Cyclonus has a G1 Cartoon Accurate Cyclonus and G1 Toy Accurate Galvatron.

So it's a personal preference I suppose.


It's for this reason I'll be holding on to my Hasbro CW Cyclonus as well as investing in Takara's UW Grand Galvatron. :)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby galvatron00 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:57 pm

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:45 pm

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Autobot Roadburn wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Translucent parts make slagging components. Many a figure have met their demise due to breakage issues. Figma ver.1 Blackrock Shooter, RID Prowl2 and iirc, supermode TAV BB. :(


Did that TAV Bee seriously have breakage issues? That must have been awful.


Chuckdawg had the same issue.

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fenrir72 wrote:Translucent parts make slagging components. Many a figure have met their demise due to breakage issues. Figma ver.1 Blackrock Shooter, RID Prowl2 and iirc, supermode TAV BB. :(


Odd how x-brawn had a full clear plastic shell but was super solid.


My HB Prowl2 Supermode just broke for no reason. Kept in carmode, 2x transformed and when I did the 3rd, the arm ball joint just pffft! It was split. :BOOM:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:51 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Autobot Roadburn wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Translucent parts make slagging components. Many a figure have met their demise due to breakage issues. Figma ver.1 Blackrock Shooter, RID Prowl2 and iirc, supermode TAV BB. :(


Did that TAV Bee seriously have breakage issues? That must have been awful.


Translucent plastic only becomes a real issue when it's used for joints or in places where it suffers a lot of stress. Being more rigid, it doesn't bend, it just snaps. Looking at Starscream, he should be fine for the most part as most problematic areas (upper legs, shoulder balls, hips and connector peg) use opaque plastic instead and he has closed fist holes:

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Just don't force anything on him, and you'll be just fine.


No always. The forcing part that is. It must be the chemical components that cause them to break easy over the opaque ones.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:10 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
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fenrir72 wrote:
Translucent parts make slagging components. Many a figure have met their demise due to breakage issues. Figma ver.1 Blackrock Shooter, RID Prowl2 and iirc, supermode TAV BB. :(


Did that TAV Bee seriously have breakage issues? That must have been awful.


Translucent plastic only becomes a real issue when it's used for joints or in places where it suffers a lot of stress. Being more rigid, it doesn't bend, it just snaps. Looking at Starscream, he should be fine for the most part as most problematic areas (upper legs, shoulder balls, hips and connector peg) use opaque plastic instead and he has closed fist holes:

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Just don't force anything on him, and you'll be just fine.


No always. The forcing part that is. It must be the chemical components that cause them to break easy over the opaque ones.


Not gonna lie, this has me seriously reconsidering my pre-order for him. If something as recent as tav supremblebee has breakage issues, then what chance does this have?
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:12 pm

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itscramtastic wrote:I do think I like the purpleness of USDM Cyclonus over JDM Cyclonus.

That's just me.

'Cause purple Galvatron.


Well,

CW Cyclonus has a G1 Toy Accurate Cyclonus and G1 Cartoon Accurate Galvatron.

UW Cyclonus has a G1 Cartoon Accurate Cyclonus and G1 Toy Accurate Galvatron.

So it's a personal preference I suppose.
Honestly, I think Takara could have gotten a show-accurately colored Galvatron out of this as well since Cyclonus and Galvatron weren't that differently-colored in the cartoon.

Here's Cyclonus:
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And here's Galvatron:
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Not really that far off on the purple spectrum.

What's more is that the Silverbolt/Cyclonus mold transforms into its torso mode in a way that can allow the torso mode to be fairly differently-colored from the toy's robot mode and vehicle mode decos, as we see here with a predominately violet jet and robot becoming a predominately light gray torso. Thus, a cartoon-accurate Galvatron torso could have probably been done with ease.


So, this begs the question of why TakaraTomy chose to go with a toy-accurate Galvatron torso mode over a show-accurate one.

Previously in this thread, it was suggested that Grand Galvatron could be Galvatron II instead of Galvatron proper, since Galvatron II is known in the Japanese G1 continuity for having the 1986 Galvatron toy colors instead of the the cartoon colors. However, the bios for each figure in this set only refer to the Galvatron in question as just "Galvatron" rather than as "Galvatron II", and given that this is Takara we're dealing with here, if it was meant to be Galvatron II, the bios would have very probably specified "Galvatron II" over just "Galvatron".

What's more is that the Galvatron the bios refer to is one that Cyclonus is so loyal to that he would willingly allow his deceased master's soul to possess his body as a means to help bring him back to life. Thus far, the only Cyclonus in Japanese G1 fiction who has been so loyal to a Galvatron has been the Cartoon version, with the Galvatron he is loyal to also being the Cartoon version. And since the Cartoon version of Cyclonus hasn't had any documented history/relations/familiarity/etc. with Galvatron II, it is a safe assumption that the Galvatron that this toy is meant to evoke is the Cartoon Galvatron.

Which brings us back to the original question of why this toy is in toy-accurate colors instead of show-accurate colors. At this point, I have only two guesses as to why they chose to go with toy colors over show colors despite Takara's track record of being so beholden to show-accuracy. And my first guess is... The headsculpt.

A closer look at the Galvatronus headsculpt shows that, while it is a Galvatron head, it is scuplted more closely to the shape and design of the original 1986 Galvatron toy's head than to the shape and design of Galvatron's G1 cartoon animation model's head. The helmet especially is more like the G1 toy's with the spikes being arranged more like the point of a crown rather than two side horns and a forehead crest.

Compare:
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As opposed to a more cartoon-based head design like this:
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The other guess I have is something a bit more simpler. With the Titans Return Galvatron mold on its way, it's pretty likely that Takara's gonna give that figure a super show-accurate deco (even in spite of its Titan Master gimmick), so Takara might have wanted to do something different with this combiner version of Galvatron to give fans a justifiable reason to own both without one making the other seem too redundant. Plus, the Grand Galvatron combiner technically isn't Galvatron proper himself, so it has that leeway to not need to look exactly like Galvatron's cartoon deco.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:15 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Gearslide wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:I do think I like the purpleness of USDM Cyclonus over JDM Cyclonus.

That's just me.

'Cause purple Galvatron.


Well,

CW Cyclonus has a G1 Toy Accurate Cyclonus and G1 Cartoon Accurate Galvatron.

UW Cyclonus has a G1 Cartoon Accurate Cyclonus and G1 Toy Accurate Galvatron.

So it's a personal preference I suppose.
Honestly, I think Takara could have gotten a show-accurately colored Galvatron out of this as well since Cyclonus and Galvatron weren't that differently-colored in the cartoon.

Here's Cyclonus:
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And here's Galvatron:
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Not really that far off on the purple spectrum.

What's more is that the Silverbolt/Cyclonus mold transforms into its torso mode in a way that can allow the torso mode to be fairly differently-colored from the toy's robot mode and vehicle mode decos, as we see here with a predominately violet jet and robot becoming a predominately light gray torso. Thus, a cartoon-accurate Galvatron torso could have probably been done with ease.


So, this begs the question of why TakaraTomy chose to go with a toy-accurate Galvatron torso mode over a show-accurate one.

Previously in this thread, it was suggested that Grand Galvatron could be Galvatron II instead of Galvatron proper, since Galvatron II is known in the Japanese G1 continuity for having the 1986 Galvatron toy colors instead of the the cartoon colors. However, the bios for each figure in this set only refer to the Galvatron in question as just "Galvatron" rather than as "Galvatron II", and given that this is Takara we're dealing with here, if it was meant to be Galvatron II, the bios would have very probably specified "Galvatron II" over just "Galvatron".

What's more is that the Galvatron the bios refer to is one that Cyclonus is so loyal to that he would willingly allow his deceased master's soul to possess his body as a means to help bring him back to life. Thus far, the only Cyclonus in Japanese G1 fiction who has been so loyal to a Galvatron has been the Cartoon version, with the Galvatron he is loyal to also being the Cartoon version. And since the Cartoon version of Cyclonus hasn't had any documented history/relations/familiarity/etc. with Galvatron II, it is a safe assumption that the Galvatron that this toy is meant to evoke is the Cartoon Galvatron.

Which brings us back to the original question of why this toy is in toy-accurate colors instead of show-accurate colors. At this point, I have only two guesses as to why they chose to go with toy colors over show colors despite Takara's track record of being so beholden to show-accuracy. And my first guess is... The headsculpt.

A closer look at the Galvatronus headsculpt shows that, while it is a Galvatron head, it is scuplted more closely to the shape and design of the original 1986 Galvatron toy's head than to the shape and design of Galvatron's G1 cartoon animation model's head. The helmet especially is more like the G1 toy's with the spikes being arranged more like the point of a crown rather than two side horns and a forehead crest.

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As opposed to a more cartoon-based head design like this:
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The other guess I have is something a bit more simpler. With the Titans Return Galvatron mold on its way, it's pretty likely that Takara's gonna give that figure a super show-accurate deco (even in spite of its Titan Master gimmick), so Takara might have wanted to do something different with this combiner version of Galvatron to give fans a justifiable reason to own both without one making the other seem too redundant. Plus, the Grand Galvatron combiner technically isn't Galvatron proper himself, so it has that leeway to not need to look exactly like Galvatron's cartoon deco.


So Psycho Galvatron ver. 2 lite :lol:
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Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:16 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:The other guess I have is something a bit more simpler. With the Titans Return Galvatron mold on its way, it's pretty likely that Takara's gonna give that figure a super show-accurate deco (even in spite of its Titan Master gimmick), so Takara might have wanted to do something different with this combiner version of Galvatron to give fans a justifiable reason to own both without one making the other seem too redundant. Plus, the Grand Galvatron combiner technically isn't Galvatron proper himself, so it has that leeway to not need to look exactly like Galvatron's cartoon deco.


Either that, or they didn't want to release one that was nearly identical to hasbro's, since hasbro basically nailed both cartoon looks; I know they did this for prime when they could have gone the full energon route, so I'm not sure, but the tw reason does sound fairly reasonable.
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Postby Sabrblade » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:19 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Either that, or they didn't want to release one that was nearly identical to hasbro's, since hasbro basically nailed both cartoon looks;
Hasn't stopped Takara before from releasing figures in slightly different yet way more accurate decos. ;)
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Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:25 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Either that, or they didn't want to release one that was nearly identical to hasbro's, since hasbro basically nailed both cartoon looks;
Hasn't stopped Takara before from releasing figures in slightly different yet way more accurate decos. ;)


Yeah, just positing it, but that's why I ultimately agreed with you ;)
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