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News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:02 pm

good to know thank you

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:19 pm

Damn, that looks good. The colours on Blast Off are kinda off but they do look good. Vortex looks so much better than the Hasbro version it's not even funny and even the chest looks great (though I would still prefer bogstandard silver).

Not sure about the colour coded feet though. This will definitely be a job for the Perfect Effect feet.

In any case, consider me on board...provided I can clear some space before pre-orders sell out. Oh well, it's a regular release anyway so it should be fairly easy to get on the aftermarket like UW Superion...right?

by **Rated X** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:23 pm

So much better Takara !!!

Damn the Hasbro version sucks. I honestly believe Hasbro picks crappy colors on purpose to continue to justify Takaras existence as the "Premium" deco company.

Hasbro's job is to make the collectors puke... :SICK:

Takara's job is to come and save the day... :DANCE:

(for a price)

News Credits: 6 · by **MemphisR56** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:25 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:In any case, consider me on board...provided I can clear some space before pre-orders sell out. Oh well, it's a regular release anyway so it should be fairly easy to get on the aftermarket like UW Superion...right?

I dunno delta, Superion didn't have a unique exclusive mold.

Defensor did, but he was a shared exclusive.

Theres not really an aftermarket precedent for that situation on a full retail release.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:33 pm

Rated X wrote:Damn the Hasbro version sucks. I honestly believe Hasbro picks crappy colors on purpose to continue to justify Takaras existence as the "Premium" deco company. (for a price)

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:40 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Damn the Hasbro version sucks. I honestly believe Hasbro picks crappy colors on purpose to continue to justify Takaras existence as the "Premium" deco company. (for a price)

Right, because the majority of hasbro's color's are so far off base, please :roll:

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:46 pm

Rated X wrote:
Takara's job is to come and save the day... (for a price)

The only extra cost is the shipping, they are the same price. He's only USD $88-96 + Shipping. Same price as Hasbro. BBTS is a third party Takara seller, they dont count.

Delta Magnus wrote:In any case, consider me on board...provided I can clear some space before pre-orders sell out. Oh well, it's a regular release anyway so it should be fairly easy to get on the aftermarket like UW Superion...right?

What aftermarket, UW Superion is still available on the primary market and so will Bruticus.

MemphisR56 wrote:Defensor did, but he was a shared exclusive.

Shared with who? He wasnt a shared exclusive. Thee was no other retailer aside from TTMall who sold him at that price.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:52 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:In any case, consider me on board...provided I can clear some space before pre-orders sell out. Oh well, it's a regular release anyway so it should be fairly easy to get on the aftermarket like UW Superion...right?

What aftermarket, UW Superion is still available on the primary market and so will Bruticus.

Damn, that's a good price. Thanks! I may have to jump on this and sell my CW Aerialbots (except Alpha Bravo, for obvious reasons). I hope they ship to the UK...

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:20 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:In any case, consider me on board...provided I can clear some space before pre-orders sell out. Oh well, it's a regular release anyway so it should be fairly easy to get on the aftermarket like UW Superion...right?

What aftermarket, UW Superion is still available on the primary market and so will Bruticus.

Damn, that's a good price. Thanks! I may have to jump on this and sell my CW Aerialbots (except Alpha Bravo, for obvious reasons). I hope they ship to the UK...

Yup they do. And that price is AWESOME! I will be buying Bruticus from them :-D

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:28 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:In any case, consider me on board...provided I can clear some space before pre-orders sell out. Oh well, it's a regular release anyway so it should be fairly easy to get on the aftermarket like UW Superion...right?

What aftermarket, UW Superion is still available on the primary market and so will Bruticus.

Damn, that's a good price. Thanks! I may have to jump on this and sell my CW Aerialbots (except Alpha Bravo, for obvious reasons). I hope they ship to the UK...

Yup they do. And that price is AWESOME! I will be buying Bruticus from them

Yeah. £69 for a whole combiner is a great deal. Now, let's see-

>£33 for shipping to the UK

Ouch, that bites. And then there's customs fees to consider...yikes. Seems regardless of where I buy it from I'm gonna be paying ludicrous amounts.

I wonder if customs includes shipping fees or just the value of the actual item?

by **Rated X** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:29 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Damn the Hasbro version sucks. I honestly believe Hasbro picks crappy colors on purpose to continue to justify Takaras existence as the "Premium" deco company. (for a price)

Dude, they all come from the same factory in China. Please explain why the best color cant be used to make one gigantic worldwide run? Extra paint apps can always be added to the pallets being shipped to Japan under the "Takara" moniker. Honestly outside of extra paint apps (and occasional exclusive molds) is there really a reason for Takara to exist ? My solution is simple. Do away with the Hasbro colors. Let Takara pick the colors for the world. Then they can add extra paint apps for their "Japanese market". They can also continue to create new molds for when Hasbro is too lazy to do so. If it was up to me, I would get rid of Hasbro altogether and just let Takara run the brand worldwide. But that's just me.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:33 pm

Rated X wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Damn the Hasbro version sucks. I honestly believe Hasbro picks crappy colors on purpose to continue to justify Takaras existence as the "Premium" deco company. (for a price)

Dude, they all come from the same factory in China. Please explain why the best color cant be used to make one gigantic worldwide run? Extra paint apps can always be added to the pallets being shipped to Japan under the "Takara" moniker. Honestly outside of extra paint apps (and occasional exclusive molds) is there really a reason for Takara to exist ? My solution is simple. Do away with the Hasbro colors. Let Takara pick the colors for the world. Then they can add extra paint apps for their "Japanese market". They can also continue to create new molds for when Hasbro is too lazy to do so. If it was up to me, I would get rid of Hasbro altogether and just let Takara run the brand worldwide. But that's just me.

Different companies, different budgets, different demographic, different competition. Plus they also come out at different times so they're not produced in the same run.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:34 pm

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:36 pm

I was afraid this was going to happen. I never liked the blast off wings/chest.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:47 pm

Rated X wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Damn the Hasbro version sucks. I honestly believe Hasbro picks crappy colors on purpose to continue to justify Takaras existence as the "Premium" deco company. (for a price)

Dude, they all come from the same factory in China. Please explain why the best color cant be used to make one gigantic worldwide run?

Different markets. Takara is largely catering to collectors who take accuracy really seriously. Hasbro is largely catering to kids who just want the toy to look good (case in point, Dragstrip, whose Hasbro deco is a LOT more eye-catching and visually interesting than "Yellowman McCheese" Takara Dragstrip). Also, they're produced at different times- Hasbro initially creates their run of product, which Takara acquires the license to manufacture and modifies to suit their market. They're 2 completely different runs of product.

Extra paint apps can always be added to the pallets being shipped to Japan under the "Takara" moniker.

No, they can't. The differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions are often in base plastic colours. Changing them up with paint would be more expensive than just doing two different runs of product.

Honestly outside of extra paint apps (and occasional exclusive molds) is there really a reason for Takara to exist ?

Yes- so Japan can continue to actually get Transformers figures.

My solution is simple. Do away with the Hasbro colors. Let Takara pick the colors for the world. Then they can add extra paint apps for their "Japanese market". They can also continue to create new molds for when Hasbro is too lazy to do so.

...And then the brand would sink because of the large delays in product actually being finished. Not to mention that a lot of people (myself included) are fine with Hasbro's colour schemes (see: Cheese Golem Drag Strip, Bland Hot Spot, Grubby Grey Streetwise) so they'd be eliminating sales.

If it was up to me, I would get rid of Hasbro altogether and just let Takara run the brand worldwide. But that's just me.

...And then Transformers wouldn't even be released outside of Japan, because Takara has neither the interest nor the resources to manage the brand internationally. But that's alright, I'm sure little Timmy won't mind that he can't buy Transformers anymore because some manchild in Florida wanted to have his toy robots in the colours he wanted.

You know who else gets irrationally angry about old characters having updated colour palettes?

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:23 pm

So I have to assume this conversation took place at Robot Kingdom HQ:

"Boss, I've got a great scoop! I just scored the first color photos of the UW Bruticus! If we put these up on our website, it'll drive a lot of traffic there!"

"Excellent. But first, slap a gigantic watermark on it so no one can really see the image clearly."

william-james88 wrote:

"Perfect!"

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:06 pm

X and DM.

Seriously make a thread called "Everything X and DM Argue About" and leave it out of these threads. Then you two can keep having the SAME cyclical discussions all the live long day without bogging down the rest of Seibertron.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:08 pm

shajaki wrote:X and DM.

Seriously make a thread called "Everything X and DM Argue About" and leave it out of these threads. Then you two can keep having the SAME cyclical discussions all the live long day without bogging down the rest of Seibertron.

When X stops bringing up the same tired old crap I'll stop pulling apart his highly flawed arguments. Until then, well... >:oP

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:09 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:Yeah. £69 for a whole combiner is a great deal. Now, let's see-

>£33 for shipping to the UK

Ouch, that bites. And then there's customs fees to consider...yikes. Seems regardless of where I buy it from I'm gonna be paying ludicrous amounts.

I wonder if customs includes shipping fees or just the value of the actual item?

Its the value of the actual item and if it is below a certain limit, the queen wont impose a tax. Also, you can ship it by boat. Its not like you'd be one f the first to get UW Superion anyway, why not get the cheaper shipping? It's registered too.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:10 pm

shajaki wrote:X and DM.

Seriously make a thread called "Everything X and DM Argue About" and leave it out of these threads. Then you two can keep having the SAME cyclical discussions all the live long day without bogging down the rest of Seibertron.

My signature says it all.

Anyhow I am not really sure which paint scheme for Bruticus I like better. I like both the Hasbro and Takara. I think the deciding point for me is Blastoff, and I like the Hasbro Blastoff better believe it or not.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:13 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Yeah. £69 for a whole combiner is a great deal. Now, let's see-

>£33 for shipping to the UK

Ouch, that bites. And then there's customs fees to consider...yikes. Seems regardless of where I buy it from I'm gonna be paying ludicrous amounts.

I wonder if customs includes shipping fees or just the value of the actual item?

Its the value of the actual item and if it is below a certain limit, the queen wont impose a tax. Also, you can ship it by boat. Its not like you'd be one f the first to get UW Superion anyway, why not get the cheaper shipping? It's registered too.

Huh. Well, I'll have to look into that.

(Of course seeing as until I've sold off some of my collection I'm forbade from buying anymore the point is moot anyway, but in any case, thanks for the help!)

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:15 pm

Lot more paint yes. Doesn't look bad at all, but I am still content with Hasbro. Even so, still looks good

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:20 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Lot more paint yes. Doesn't look bad at all, but I am still content with Hasbro. Even so, still looks good

Currently no-one on Amazon sells the Hasbro Combaticons for a good price. You people don't know how hard it is for me to decide which ones I should get. I am wanting G2 Superion with the PE upgrade kit, I want Computron, I still need Cyclonus and the other deluxe Stunticons for photoshooting the prototype for my custom Menasor torso when I finish that, And on top of that I still have not gotten UW Devastator!!! :-(

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:24 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Lot more paint yes. Doesn't look bad at all, but I am still content with Hasbro. Even so, still looks good

Currently no-one on Amazon sells the Hasbro Combaticons for a good price. You people don't know how hard it is for me to decide which ones I should get. I am wanting G2 Superion with the PE upgrade kit, I want Computron, I still need Cyclonus and the other deluxe Stunticons for photoshooting the prototype for my custom Menasor torso when I finish that, And on top of that I still have not gotten UW Devastator!!!

If you cant find Hasbro for a good price, then just get the takara one. You'd end up paying the same but at least getting the new molds and better paint apps. Preorders for $88 USD at anime-export end Febuary 26th http://www.anime-export.com/product/29861

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:28 pm

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Lot more paint yes. Doesn't look bad at all, but I am still content with Hasbro. Even so, still looks good

Currently no-one on Amazon sells the Hasbro Combaticons for a good price. You people don't know how hard it is for me to decide which ones I should get. I am wanting G2 Superion with the PE upgrade kit, I want Computron, I still need Cyclonus and the other deluxe Stunticons for photoshooting the prototype for my custom Menasor torso when I finish that, And on top of that I still have not gotten UW Devastator!!!

If you cant find Hasbro for a good price, then just get the takara one. You'd end up paying the same but at least getting the new molds and better paint apps. Preorders for $88 USD at anime-export end Febuary 26th http://www.anime-export.com/product/29861

Hmm I'll think about it. Aren't they usually 150 dollars for normal online price?