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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Well, as it should come out first, pre-order tt's, and wait to see what deal's you can get on the hasbro one, it could very likely come out at a time like memorial day or 4th of July when they have a 10%, 15%, or 20% deal going, that, combined with the free shipping you should get along with it, would make it a worthy choice, then you simply cancel your pre-order.
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:
Well, as it should come out first, pre-order tt's, and wait to see what deal's you can get on the hasbro one, it could very likely come out at a time like memorial day or 4th of July when they have a 10%, 15%, or 20% deal going, that, combined with the free shipping you should get along with it, would make it a worthy choice, then you simply cancel your pre-order.
But its not jsut about the money sometimes. Even if you find a Hasbro Computron for 80$, an inferior toy will always remain an inferior toy. And if you end up caving and eventualyl buying the Takara one after everyone marvels about it, not only would you end up paying secondary market prices (which are worse for Takara items than hasbro items) but you would have lost 80$ because you bought the Hasbro one first.
And if saving money is what really speaks to you then think of it this way. If you dont get Takara's now, it will be at least 250$ to get that set in 3 years (new, and this is being conservative). So think of buying it now and thus saving mney you wont have to spend later. Think of how lucky you are to be able to get it at this price now. New fans come in all the time. Imagine that poor fan who comes in in 2017 because of the new Titan that is heavily mediatized and gets smitten by these gorgeous combiners and is stuck paying secondary prices? We are lucky not to be that guy. We can get this gorgeous combiner now for the best price possible, which is only 35$ more than the Hasbro one (sounds like a deal to me), and that 35$ is not even because of the upgrades but only because BBTS has to ship this guy from japan. There is so much value and beuty here, I could cry.
Optimum Supreme wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:and the paint work does not fail to disappoint.
So you DON'T like how they look painted? Or did you misspeak and mean "does not fail to impress" or something along those lines?
ZeroWolf wrote:Will, I have to ask, how much is takara paying you for this constant selling![]()
I kid, but sometimes people will just want to get local.
Kurona wrote:It really doesn't work out that simply, though - not in the slightest. For the simple fact that a person's monetary situation can be very very different with only a year's difference; someone who can't get Takara Computron for the price it's at now might easily be able to get it at the doubled aftermarket price a few years later. Unless you're in a very stable position monetary-speaking that you can be sure you'll still be in for a while, I find this argument rather flawed and generalizing.
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Will, I have to ask, how much is takara paying you for this constant selling![]()
I kid, but sometimes people will just want to get local.
I just like offering different view points people dont always consider which I constantly do. You would be surprised how much goes into everyone of my purchases. I want to guarantee that I will not regret anything I get.
And the fact that I can never guarantee I will get something locally does change things. Canada not getting gen Arcee (THE toy to ge that year) was a real hard blow which made me rethink things. Plus there is the fact that this is a totally different toy from hasbro's. Compared to the Takara one, that Computron looks as much to me as G1 computron than the Beat Wars Elephant looks like G1 Ironhide. But yeah, to each' own.Kurona wrote:It really doesn't work out that simply, though - not in the slightest. For the simple fact that a person's monetary situation can be very very different with only a year's difference; someone who can't get Takara Computron for the price it's at now might easily be able to get it at the doubled aftermarket price a few years later. Unless you're in a very stable position monetary-speaking that you can be sure you'll still be in for a while, I find this argument rather flawed and generalizing.
I dislike when people use their own predicaments to generalize so I am very thankful that you brought this up and corrected when I ws doing what I usualyl dislike seeing. And yeah, that is an angle I did not think of. I was only looking at the nominal value of money, not how much 10$ seems from person to person. That is an excellent point man, so thanks!
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Will, I am about 90% sure you win this round. Unless Hasbro can wow me for the money I'd save (shipping people, I get terrible shipping prices) I will get this version. He is amazing
You should be able to get free shipping from hts if they have that deal there at that time (they have it almost year-round I believe) or you could go tfsource, get the $150, get free shipping and get rewards points...
I was more referring to the hasbro version. I know I can get him with free shipping at the standard $100 mark, and with shipping or from sites like TFSource the takara version comes out to at cheapest $135. And I also know I can most likely get the hasbro one for even cheaper with some deals. So unless hasbro can prove to me that their Computron is worth getting and worth saving the at least $35, I will hunt takara's down, because theirs is vastly superior.
Microraptor wrote:
The hasbro version has Scrounge, his targetmaster buddy, and far superior hands and feet.
william-james88 wrote:Microraptor wrote:
The hasbro version has Scrounge, his targetmaster buddy, and far superior hands and feet.
Yup, but we have to ask ourselves, what is more important in a combiner:
The toys that combine together
Or the extras
?
Diem wrote:william-james88 wrote:Microraptor wrote:
The hasbro version has Scrounge, his targetmaster buddy, and far superior hands and feet.
Yup, but we have to ask ourselves, what is more important in a combiner:
The toys that combine together
Or the extras
?
If only it was that simple.
Hasbro:
Cheaper
More traditional hands/feet
More accurate Afterburner
Bonus figures
Takara:
FAR more accurate Strafe
FAR more accurate Nosecone
Awesome weapon hands/feet
Combining weapons
Bonus coin
william-james88 wrote:
You'll have to remove 2 fromthat list. Firstly, Takara's only comes with a coin if you buy the Hasbro Asia version from Robot Kingdom. That coin is exclusive and doesnt come with the actual Japanese version.
Also, "cheaper" is only dependent on where you are and if either country distributes in your area. The hasbro version is way more expensive in Japan, it will cost 200$ there. So if they were to write a list, "cheaper" would be under the Takara one. And someone in australia who gets neither has to look at shipping otions for both. If you are comparing prices, be fair and compare the actual prices. Takara's price at retail is 100$ plus shipping, SAME as Hasbro. Your list cant be applied generally otherwise.
Also, how is Afterburner's green windshield more accuate?! It reffers to nothing.
Diem wrote:As for the cost thing, I definitely understand what you're saying, but Europe and Australia are both paying more for Unite than for CW (using Kapowtoys and premiumcollectables.com.au as my admittedly limited case samples). And as much as I hate Americocentrism I'd imagine most readers live in North America or one of those continents.
Hmm, for some reason I had it in my head that Hasbro Afterburner was orange-r. How disappointing.
william-james88 wrote:Diem wrote:As for the cost thing, I definitely understand what you're saying, but Europe and Australia are both paying more for Unite than for CW (using Kapowtoys and premiumcollectables.com.au as my admittedly limited case samples). And as much as I hate Americocentrism I'd imagine most readers live in North America or one of those continents.
Hmm, for some reason I had it in my head that Hasbro Afterburner was orange-r. How disappointing.
Well at least it is orange, unlike takara's (which is still quite screen accurate depending on the episode). My big beef with hasbro is the green in the windshield. It isnt toy accurate, show accurate or anything accurate. it is super strange and takes away from the accuracy it would otherwise have.
Diem wrote:As for the cost thing, I definitely understand what you're saying, but Europe and Australia are both paying more for Unite than for CW (using Kapowtoys and premiumcollectables.com.au as my admittedly limited case samples). And as much as I hate Americocentrism I'd imagine most readers live in North America or one of those continents.
xMXUx wrote:Diem wrote:As for the cost thing, I definitely understand what you're saying, but Europe and Australia are both paying more for Unite than for CW (using Kapowtoys and premiumcollectables.com.au as my admittedly limited case samples). And as much as I hate Americocentrism I'd imagine most readers live in North America or one of those continents.
Again, that is not completely true and depends on the country itself. For me living in Switzerland and having to order CW Computron from Kapow Toys, due to exchange rates and shipping costs, the CW version will cost me more than importing the UW version directly from Japan.
Kurona wrote:It's not completely about accuracy, though - CHUG has largely been about redesigning and adding new elements to the characters, whether from other incarnations or completely original. Takara's where you go for accuracy to any specific thing.
Logan79 wrote:After Swindle, another great Rook remold^^
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
steals_your_goats wrote:Logan79 wrote:After Swindle, another great Rook remold^^
I wouldn't really call that a great remold. All they did was give it a new head, slap treads and a drill on it, everything else is the same.
steals_your_goats wrote:
I wouldn't really call that a great remold. All they did was give it a new head, slap treads and a drill on it, everything else is the same.
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