Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
wilcosu35 wrote:They could have hidden the elbow hinges in ape mode better, but as for robot mode accuracy, i think he's pretty much perfect
I'd also say that the already released MP figures aren't perfectly accurate eiter, taking liberties in bot mode, alt mode, or both.
In that sense, Primal is just as much a Masterpiece as the other ones.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:Early indeed.
First reaction is, this cartoon accuracy rampage is driving me nuts. The ape mode looks bad. He's an animal, not a computer model from 1994. He should have fur! Not this smooth CG rendered finish.
The bot mode looks great though! I will anxiously await more information.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:It looks like they're trying to make this toy's Beast Mode able to both realistically bend over on all fours (as Primal did in the show when he wanted to walk or run) and unrealistically stand upright (as Primal also did in the show went he was just standing around).
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
I "grew up" ( ) loving the toy more than the show model. One of my all time favorite toys I've ever owned. That's just me. I get the whole Toon Acc thing, but I feel like Masterpiece should mean a better toy than it's predecessors. IMO a better toy would mean a more realistic beast mode. Not a gorilla with an inter tube stretched over his bones.Hellscream9999 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Early indeed.
First reaction is, this cartoon accuracy rampage is driving me nuts. The ape mode looks bad. He's an animal, not a computer model from 1994. He should have fur! Not this smooth CG rendered finish.
The bot mode looks great though! I will anxiously await more information.
Why? That's what's driven me away from all of his releases thus far, is that the beast mode head never looked like the character I grew up loving... the MP line has always been about cartoon accuracy where needed, and where else would it be needed than in giving him his iconic cartoon head model. If you want a 'realistic' o/p get any of the standard releases, as they probably fit the bill better
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:I "grew up" ( ) loving the toy more than the show model. One of my all time favorite toys I've ever owned. That's just me. I get the whole Toon Acc thing, but I feel like Masterpiece should mean a better toy than it's predecessors. IMO a better toy would mean a more realistic beast mode. Not a gorilla with an inter tube stretched over his bones.Hellscream9999 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Early indeed.
First reaction is, this cartoon accuracy rampage is driving me nuts. The ape mode looks bad. He's an animal, not a computer model from 1994. He should have fur! Not this smooth CG rendered finish.
The bot mode looks great though! I will anxiously await more information.
Why? That's what's driven me away from all of his releases thus far, is that the beast mode head never looked like the character I grew up loving... the MP line has always been about cartoon accuracy where needed, and where else would it be needed than in giving him his iconic cartoon head model. If you want a 'realistic' o/p get any of the standard releases, as they probably fit the bill better
Maybe this rendering hasn't hit the texturing phase. I don't know. Plus I don't mind that his sculpt looks like the cartoon. I just think he needs some depth.
Trust me. I REALLY want to love this thing. And so like I said, I will anxiously wait to see what happens and keep a positive outlook.
Oh, and congrats on your promotion Newsie!
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
INDEED!Hellscream9999 wrote: he and megs were perfect
Yes. and it's starting to drive me away from the line. Just me, but I prefer toy accuracy over toon.Besides, TT is being cartoon accurate, just as the mp line does, buttflaps, aprons, and all...
That would be DOPE! Did you notice the panels on his forearms? Maybe he has the weapons gimmicks. I would like that very much.Wonder if he'll have a flip-up mouthplate
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Because Rhinox had a ton of things about his toy that were completely inaccurate to the cartoon model, chief among them being his beast mode looking more like a real rhinoceros than the more cartoony look of the CG model, along with several aspects of his robot mode being inaccurate to the CG model's robot mode.william-james88 wrote:Yeah, the engineering seems more like an update than really a Masterpiece figure. I dont see how RHinox is generations and this is an MP, aside from size.
Aside from the original 1996 Ultra class Optimus Primal mold, Generations Rattrap is in scale with no one.Moonshot wrote:Gen. Rattrap and Rhinox are already fairly in scale with masterpiece.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Cobotron wrote:Yes. and it's starting to drive me away from the line. Just me, but I prefer toy accuracy over toon.Hellscream9999 wrote:Besides, TT is being cartoon accurate, just as the mp line does, buttflaps, aprons, and all...
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
The OG has been on my desk for the past week.Hellscream9999 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Yes. and it's starting to drive me away from the line. Just me, but I prefer toy accuracy over toon.Hellscream9999 wrote:Besides, TT is being cartoon accurate, just as the mp line does, buttflaps, aprons, and all...
Well, just stick with the original, or any of the 10 updates TT has pushed out since then and you should be fine...
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:Early indeed.
First reaction is, this cartoon accuracy rampage is driving me nuts. The ape mode looks bad. He's an animal, not a computer model from 1994. He should have fur! Not this smooth CG rendered finish.
The bot mode looks great though! I will anxiously await more information.
Sabrblade wrote:In regards to texture/smoothness, the CGI model did have a furry texture:
It was just that his fur happened to always be extremely well-groomed.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Cobotron wrote:The OG has been on my desk for the past week.Hellscream9999 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Yes. and it's starting to drive me away from the line. Just me, but I prefer toy accuracy over toon.Hellscream9999 wrote:Besides, TT is being cartoon accurate, just as the mp line does, buttflaps, aprons, and all...
Well, just stick with the original, or any of the 10 updates TT has pushed out since then and you should be fine...
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Sabrblade wrote:In regards to texture/smoothness, the CGI model did have a furry texture:
It was just that his fur happened to always be extremely well-groomed.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
The smoothness seen on the magazine scan CG render is what makes it an unfinished render, much like this very early unfinished render from Mainframe:Cobotron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In regards to texture/smoothness, the CGI model did have a furry texture:
It was just that his fur happened to always be extremely well-groomed.
Ya, I'm just hoping we see some on the toy. That's all.
What a handsome devil in that GQ pose.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The smoothness seen on the magazine scan CG render is what makes it an unfinished render, much like this very early unfinished render from Mainframe:
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The smoothness seen on the magazine scan CG render is what makes it an unfinished render, much like this very early unfinished render from Mainframe:
Ya, I mentioned that a few posts back. Fingers crossed.
For the record guys. I may be an "Old Timer", but I love Beast wars above all things TFs.
That's why I really really want this thing to knock my socks off!
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
My point is that the show model did have fur and wasn't as solidly smooth-surfaced as this unfinished render looks.Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In regards to texture/smoothness, the CGI model did have a furry texture:
It was just that his fur happened to always be extremely well-groomed.
That's a weak excuse, they could mold more fur on the mp figure, the show version only had that because of cg constraints...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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