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News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:09 pm

I am pretty excited about this. I'd like to see a picture with closer detail but for now I'm on board. I wish this was the new Universe line though rather than another Rotf figure.

News Credits: 128 · by **Counterpunch** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:24 pm

Looks like a fine figure, however, it does not make for a Classics Seaspray.

by **Valandar** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:06 pm

Compare this with G1 Seaspray, and take off Nostalgia Filters. Which one's better?

Honestly, if we got something like G1 Seaspray today, people would be darn near up in arms.

If you don't think it makes a good Seaspray, then simply don't call it that! Call it Waterlog, or Oceanglide, or Storm Surge, or Splashdown, or Power Run, or Strikedown, or Waver, or Shortround, or darn near anything else like that. It looks like it'll be a decent figure, so don't be holding G1 nostalgia against it the way most did with Powerglide.

And for the record, I'm a HUGE G1 fan. I just don't let it get in the way of judging a figure on its own merits.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:23 pm

I will get this figure. I may not call him Seaspray though (that's reserved for the blue/yellow repaint). I think I'll call him Carrack

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:48 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:But, this pretty much confirms that Universe is returning.

From what I've gathered, this is the new "continued" movie style packaging post-ROTF. I think Sea Spray is a new off screen character. I could be wrong. We'll know for sure in 13 days after toy fair.

13 days? O_o...yes!

I think I can wait that long. lol

News Credits: 12 · by **Overcracker** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:38 pm

DevastaTTor wrote:To me, Sea Spray looks like a hybrid of RotF and Universe lines, not as blocky as Universe/Classics, but much more traditional than the on-screen movie figures. While this is an original figure, the look and feel reminds me of the RotF Hoist repaint. I guess a mix of design styles makes sense since these figures basically bridge the two movies. Perhaps I'll be more excited about this figure when we get clearer pictures-or the Takara paint job.

The generic packaging does nothing for me.

Agreed. Looks like a good hybrid of RORF and Classics. Which I like.

Though I'll definitely wait for the yellow and blue repaint that's inevitably going to be released.

Seems Hasbro is losing the ROTF label in favor of a more general line that can include many things. I bet we'll see more AEC repaints in this line. Like with the 07 Movie.

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:07 pm

C'mon Hasbro, Ultra class Warpath!

You know we want it!!!!

by **mechabooks** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:11 pm

I'm hoping its actually not a RoTF figure. I'd like it to be a Universe figure instead. I don't see that point of issuing figures that weren't in the movie. But, I gotta say if they are giving Seaspray this kind of treatment, I'd really like to see a Cosmos redeux!

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:11 pm

Counterpunch wrote:Looks like a fine figure, however, it does not make for a Classics Seaspray.

No, but just like Powerglide, he looks pretty good in an Alternators/MP display.

News Credits: 10 · by **JazZeke** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:50 pm

I like! I was ambivalent about picking one up for myself... until I saw he can carry other figures. I'm sold!

by **8 bit** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:12 pm

Didicos wrote:Am I the only one who would prefer a legends class Universe Seaspray just like Cosmos,Brawn,Beachcomber etc

Aye! That's what I was hoping for. This really doesn't look or remind me of Seaspray.

by **Swiftpaw** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:29 pm

Looks good for design wise. But will wait for either Hasbro or Takara to redeco in 'cartoon accurate' yellow instead of the white. Since they've dedecoed every other Ultra in U2.0, bet we see this redone as either Shortround or Stormsurge for a Decepticon version.

News Credits: 387 · by **Nekoman** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:06 pm

Counterpunch wrote:Looks like a fine figure, however, it does not make for a Classics Seaspray.

Agreed, though I don't feel it's particularly movie-like either. An interesting piece anyways.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:37 pm

looks awesome & hes packaged in robot mode, a double win.

News Credits: 17 · by **cannonfodder4000** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:17 am

kinda blocky and it doesnt look that possible

meh probably getting him if not i'll wait for the G1 repaint IF theres gonna be one

by **NormT81** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:54 am

Looks alright but I'm more interested in the Bruticus :grin:

News Credits: 5 · by **--B--** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:13 am

Valandar wrote:Compare this with G1 Seaspray, and take off Nostalgia Filters. Which one's better?

Honestly, if we got something like G1 Seaspray today, people would be darn near up in arms.

If you don't think it makes a good Seaspray, then simply don't call it that! Call it Waterlog, or Oceanglide, or Storm Surge, or Splashdown, or Power Run, or Strikedown, or Waver, or Shortround, or darn near anything else like that. It looks like it'll be a decent figure, so don't be holding G1 nostalgia against it the way most did with Powerglide.

And for the record, I'm a HUGE G1 fan. I just don't let it get in the way of judging a figure on its own merits.

I agree, but with Powerglide, I held his ginormous blob body and head with his tiny arms and floppy legs against him, not G1 nostalgia!

News Credits: 128 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:51 am

Valandar wrote:Compare this with G1 Seaspray, and take off Nostalgia Filters. Which one's better?

Honestly, if we got something like G1 Seaspray today, people would be darn near up in arms.

No, we wouldn’t.

Reference Legends Brawn, Beachcomber, Warpath, or Wheelie for confirmation that small, simple homages to small simple G1 characters is exactly what we want.

by **Cobalt Prime** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:18 am

I like the look of him. He has the blocky design of the bots from Energon.
Just hope he's not meant to be in the ROTF line though, the aesthetic doesn't match up.

by **Valandar** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:45 am

Counterpunch wrote:
Valandar wrote:Compare this with G1 Seaspray, and take off Nostalgia Filters. Which one's better?

Honestly, if we got something like G1 Seaspray today, people would be darn near up in arms.

No, we wouldn’t.

Reference Legends Brawn, Beachcomber, Warpath, or Wheelie for confirmation that small, simple homages to small simple G1 characters is exactly what we want.

Except ALL of those you quoted have MUCH better robot modes than G1 Seaspray.

I did not mean that if a figure that homaged G1 Seaspray was released in Legends size, I meant if G1 Seaspray had never been invented, and we got that figure today, it would be an uproar. No articulation except at the shoulders, legs nothing but skinny sticks, one solid foot, undefined arms, no real paint apps, seemingly random colors - people WOULD be upset.

News Credits: 128 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:07 am

Valandar wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Valandar wrote:Compare this with G1 Seaspray, and take off Nostalgia Filters. Which one's better?

Honestly, if we got something like G1 Seaspray today, people would be darn near up in arms.

No, we wouldn’t.

Reference Legends Brawn, Beachcomber, Warpath, or Wheelie for confirmation that small, simple homages to small simple G1 characters is exactly what we want.

Except ALL of those you quoted have MUCH better robot modes than G1 Seaspray.

G1 Wheelie has a better robot mode than Seaspray? G1 Warpath has essentially the same transformation as Seaspray. Brawn is just a terrible looking G1 figure.

News Credits: 609 · by **Razorclaw0000** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:17 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
Valandar wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Valandar wrote:Compare this with G1 Seaspray, and take off Nostalgia Filters. Which one's better?

Honestly, if we got something like G1 Seaspray today, people would be darn near up in arms.

No, we wouldn’t.

Reference Legends Brawn, Beachcomber, Warpath, or Wheelie for confirmation that small, simple homages to small simple G1 characters is exactly what we want.

Except ALL of those you quoted have MUCH better robot modes than G1 Seaspray.

G1 Wheelie has a better robot mode than Seaspray? G1 Warpath has essentially the same transformation as Seaspray. Brawn is just a terrible looking G1 figure.

While having new Legends figures improving on the original awful Minibots is cool, for me there's no nostalgia tying a specific homage to a specific size class. If they think they can do a badass Seaspray at Voyager size, let em do it. I was pretty happy with Powerglide overall (except the colors and that defect that kept the arms from locking to the engines).

by **Valandar** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:53 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
Valandar wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Valandar wrote:Compare this with G1 Seaspray, and take off Nostalgia Filters. Which one's better?

Honestly, if we got something like G1 Seaspray today, people would be darn near up in arms.

No, we wouldn’t.

Reference Legends Brawn, Beachcomber, Warpath, or Wheelie for confirmation that small, simple homages to small simple G1 characters is exactly what we want.

Except ALL of those you quoted have MUCH better robot modes than G1 Seaspray.

G1 Wheelie has a better robot mode than Seaspray? G1 Warpath has essentially the same transformation as Seaspray. Brawn is just a terrible looking G1 figure.

You referenced the LEGENDS version. I'm not sure you're understanding what I'm saying.

Imagine G1 Seaspray never came out.

Imagine the current Legends Wheelie, Warpath, Brawn, and Cosmos came out as they really did.

Then imagine G1 Seaspray was released as a Legends class.

People would be pissed. THAT is the point I'm making.

If you ignore that the upcoming Voyager class is supposed to be a G1 minibot, it actually looks like a pretty darn good figure. And thus I really don't get why people would refuse to get it just because "it isn't Seaspray".