Rated X wrote:As much as I love bashing Hasbro, Im gonna side with them on this issue. Even Alcatraz security was breached at one point. Pointing fingers is not important anymore. What is more important is making sure it never happens again. And also to reimburse those who were affected. Maybe a free years membership would be appropiate. It's not like every time somebody hacks a gas pump or ATM do you get an official company statement. Life goes on...
Hasbro wrote:-- They believe that the number of customers affected is low relative to the volume of sales transactions made.
tigertracks 24 wrote:Rated X wrote:As much as I love bashing Hasbro, Im gonna side with them on this issue. Even Alcatraz security was breached at one point. Pointing fingers is not important anymore. What is more important is making sure it never happens again. And also to reimburse those who were affected. Maybe a free years membership would be appropiate. It's not like every time somebody hacks a gas pump or ATM do you get an official company statement. Life goes on...
So SONY was not issuing all kinds of warnings and public statements when they got jacked? I think they were.
One years membership $40, credit card fraud charges $4000. Hmmm... Not that most cc companies won't remove the charges if you can prove that it is fraud. If they won't you should get a new card.
Moving on for some after this is easy. For others whose finances are a but more crunched...not so much.
Kibble wrote:I think the Club should give their customers the same thing TFsource did after their multiple fiascoes...
tigertracks 24 wrote:Rated X wrote:As much as I love bashing Hasbro, Im gonna side with them on this issue. Even Alcatraz security was breached at one point. Pointing fingers is not important anymore. What is more important is making sure it never happens again. And also to reimburse those who were affected. Maybe a free years membership would be appropiate. It's not like every time somebody hacks a gas pump or ATM do you get an official company statement. Life goes on...
So SONY was not issuing all kinds of warnings and public statements when they got jacked? I think they were.
One years membership $40, credit card fraud charges $4000. Hmmm... Not that most cc companies won't remove the charges if you can prove that it is fraud. If they won't you should get a new card.
Moving on for some after this is easy. For others whose finances are a but more crunched...not so much.
Seibertron wrote:Have any of you considered that TFsource only had one situation. From what I understood, the second situation was never actually tied to TFsource. Perhaps the second issue which people assumed came from TFsource actually came from another source that we all regularly use.
Kibble wrote:Seibertron wrote:Have any of you considered that TFsource only had one situation. From what I understood, the second situation was never actually tied to TFsource. Perhaps the second issue which people assumed came from TFsource actually came from another source that we all regularly use.
If you believe that you should be giving TFCC the same benefit of doubt because the supporting evidence is about equal. Every one of my local crew that used a card at TFsource got hit. I never used a card w/ TFsource and I didn't get hit, but I did use my card w/ PSN which some were looking to blame it on. Others that ONLY used their card w/ TFsource and nothing else were hit. At least TFCC is owning up to it, though...
Kibble wrote:April 2011...same time frame as PSN.
Seibertron wrote:Kibble wrote:April 2011...same time frame as PSN.
And you had never used your cards with Fun Pub, BotCon or the Transformers Collectors Club prior to that date?
Kibble wrote:Seibertron wrote:Kibble wrote:April 2011...same time frame as PSN.
And you had never used your cards with Fun Pub, BotCon or the Transformers Collectors Club prior to that date?
I'm not following...I have two cards that were recently hit, both of which I attempted to use with TFCC on 1/30. They were clearly the culprit. My point was if you somehow believe TFsource wasn't compromised back in April, you should equally believe maybe TFCC isn't to blame here, too. They have comparable evidence against them...beyond a reasonable doubt.
Seibertron wrote:There seemed to be a lot of confusion with that incident about the actual source of that problem and whether it was from PSN, TFsource, etc. I've since seen some people suggest that the source of last year's situation may have come from Fun Pub instead of TFsource. I'm just inquiring about your particular situation to see what your particular experience was.
Kibble wrote:I guess I don't understand the outrage toward TFCC who at least appear to be doing something about it. But then again, give it a few months and maybe everyone will forget about the Club's issues too.
G1 Legacy wrote:BUT, to those of you that are requesting free figures and year long memberships renewals for nothing...whether your joking around or not, I fell confident in saying, "That ain't gonna happen!"
I'm not saying it's right, but I accept the reality of the situation for what it is....a big ol' cluster F__k. It's not in the nature of big companies to do stuff like that these days (give out freebies), it's unfortunate. The almighty dollar and good ol' fashioned greed are how most big business is run, with a culture of covering your ass legaly, thrown in there for good measure. So keep dreaming if you think they're gonna give away entire membership packages for nothing. I hope we can move on from this after Botcon, but something definatly needs to be said by us at the convention to impress upon the powers that be that this doesn't need to happen again, EVER.
G1 Legacy wrote:BUT, to those of you that are requesting free figures and year long memberships renewals for nothing...whether your joking around or not, I fell confident in saying, "That ain't gonna happen!"
Seibertron wrote:In addition, all of our credit card info (past and present) as well as our personal account information, usernames, unprotected passwords, email addresses, street addresses, dates of birth (I believe that's one of the fields they collect), etc were all taken as well. IMO, this situation was far worse than what happened with TFsource, since all of our personal information went plus the "Transformers Collectors' Club" is advertised on every Hasbro Transformers package, which brings Hasbro into the mix instead of it just being an online retailer.
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