Mkall wrote:I'm liking what I see, but I'm going to hold off until I see LioKaiser in full combined mode, scaled with other combiners.
Delta Magnus wrote:Huh. Well it's pretty neat that they've put the option there. Also, spare combiner hands is always good.
Midnight_Fox wrote:Agreed. Interesting note, the connector for the hands that plugs them into place on Minos and Aiakos is removable and fits onto what I'm fairly certain is a standard 5mm post on the hand itself, so whichever pair you don't use will be usable on CW figures.
I'd take Skullface's criticisms with a pinch of salt. From the feel I get, he kinda hamhands and rushes his way through the review, and after watching the Ben's Collectibles review of it, from the way each of them describe it, you'd think they were both talking about a completely different figure.Delta Magnus wrote:Skullface review of Not-Killbison.
Gotta say, he's looking good. The little Bisonbreast is simply great and the main guy looks good. I'm loving the tank mode, and the integration of the foot pieces is superb.
I only really have 3 complaints.
1: The price. $100 is a lot of money. Sure it'll probably be cheaper to buy the whole set, but...ehhhh, I dunno.
2: I kinda wish he was a little less mustardy and a little more brassy.
3: The foot looks a little unstable. It should be fine in combined mode but I can't see Liokaiser doing any high kicks. Though saying that, once you get over a certain size, extreme poses become essentially impossible anyway- Feral Rex is one of the most stable combiners there is (AFAIK) and he isn't going to be pulling off ballet poses either.
Still, all in all I'm impressed. Good work TFC.
Doctor McGrath wrote:I have no idea what the skull face guy is talking about. I have zero stability issues with either one of these guys. I watched his Unique Toys Provider & I'm convinced he just doesn't know how to handle a bipedal robot with multiple modes.
That said, I am in no way a TFC fanboy, but these two are superb. The tolerances on both of my copies almost reaches the too tight area so there is no floppiness. The sculpts are prestine & the paint work is on par with MMC/FP. These feel like MMC products with slightly more simple transformations.
Hellbat is my favorite of the two. He can be transformed relatively easy back & forth without looking at the instructions. The transformation is very remenicent of a combiner wars jet & there are plenty of tabs to keep everything, including the wings, locked in tight. Speaking of the wings, I do recommend taking them off when going from jet to robot & vice versa but it isn't necessary. That just falls into the smarter, not harder category for me. The Brestmaster is simple but manages pull off everything it needs to in all three modes. My one issue with Hellbat is that I wish his little bat buddy could store on top of the jet in that mode. He is able to store in the spot dedicated to him in robot mode but doing so renders the front landing gear useless.
Killbison is a little more complicated but bring another pairing off gorgeous sculpt & paint work to the table. His transformation makes sense & isn't hindered by steps that must be completed in order but does require a certain level of precision. For Liokaiser TFC decided to integrate the combiner feet within Killbison & Drillhorn. Because of this, the combiner feet must be moved out of the way, literally through Killbison's legs, going from one mode to the next. I do suggest that anyone buying this figure watch a review of this part of the transformation before trying it. I did not & that led to about 15 minutes of extreme frustration & two stressed gold tabs. This part isn't difficult in theory but becomes slightly harder bc of the extremely stiff ratchets located in the combiner feet. The combiner feet have to be rotated on two different ratchets in a certain position & it works effortlessly every time. Just watch a review to learn that trick & you won't have a problem. I suggest the Chosen Prime review bc he shows this step twice, once during his transformation & then again at the end. Killbison's Brestmaster is a little more involved, not complicated, and turns into a really cool looking bull. He also has a satisfying place to store in tank mode which is a cool touch. Pro tip: don't forget to fold out the satellite when enjoying your gold anti-aircraft tank.
All together, if you don't mind spending $100 on a transformer I say go for one or both. I feel confident saying that I don't think you'll be disappointed. Mine came in a PoL with MakeToys Tailgate & PX's Vulcun. Hellbat & Killbison are the two I've played with the most. Also, go look at BBTS see how many TFC products have sold out. Solid chance these guys will be around for a while so don't feel like you need to rush. Either way, they're fun.
Insurgent wrote:Thanks Doctor. I do dearly love Lio Kaiser, and I don't mind paying if the quality is there. Either way, I'll certainly finish my CW custom, but it would be nice to have a proper looking Lio Kaiser, with his little minions. I have some deciding to do. Can the chest minions store anywhere in combined mode?
EDIT: I've decided to bite on this. After all, it's still gonna work out cheaper than a G1 Lio Kaiser.
Doctor McGrath wrote:Insurgent wrote:Thanks Doctor. I do dearly love Lio Kaiser, and I don't mind paying if the quality is there. Either way, I'll certainly finish my CW custom, but it would be nice to have a proper looking Lio Kaiser, with his little minions. I have some deciding to do. Can the chest minions store anywhere in combined mode?
EDIT: I've decided to bite on this. After all, it's still gonna work out cheaper than a G1 Lio Kaiser.
Haha right on. Killbison's do for sure. I'll have to look into Hellbat. I don't think it does though.
Midnight_Fox wrote:Doctor McGrath wrote:Insurgent wrote:Thanks Doctor. I do dearly love Lio Kaiser, and I don't mind paying if the quality is there. Either way, I'll certainly finish my CW custom, but it would be nice to have a proper looking Lio Kaiser, with his little minions. I have some deciding to do. Can the chest minions store anywhere in combined mode?
EDIT: I've decided to bite on this. After all, it's still gonna work out cheaper than a G1 Lio Kaiser.
Haha right on. Killbison's do for sure. I'll have to look into Hellbat. I don't think it does though.
It attaches to his chest under his plane mode, backwards so that the guns point forward.
It's even shown in the directions. ;P
Glarryg wrote:Sweet! (Although, given that these are clearly remolds of not-Killbison and not-Hellbat, it'd be nice for them to not cost as much.)
Glarryg
Glarryg wrote:Sweet! (Although, given that these are clearly remolds of not-Killbison and not-Hellbat, it'd be nice for them to not cost as much.)
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