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What's up, everyone? I've just completed my TFC Project Uranos. Unfortunately, this is the least excellent combiner I've com across. In combined mode, I can't even stand him up. Joints are weak at the hip and overall it just has a crappy feel. Like a KO version of G1 combiners released in Walmart gift baskets. I don't wish to make any modifications and as such I really shouldn't have to. In comparison, Maketoys Giant Type 61 is such an awesome work of art. No to mention, also cheaper. I don't think I'll ever invest in TFC again. Anyone wanna' buy a complete set of TFC Uranos, including "Wings of" add on?

Sounds like you answered your own question

I personally don't think TFC is worth the cost. IMO they're lackluster at the $100 per figure price range.

Thanks, man. Anyone else out there feel the same way?

I haven’t had any problems with Uranus or Hercules. Granted I’m more into display and I rarely transform them. Actually, for me Uranus was more solid than Hercules and less floppy. I’m not going to debate the cost of each figure. I believe you’re paying not just for plastic, but also for semi G1 accurate combiner hype. And it doesn’t take a lot to get me hyped up because I’m a sucker for G1 combiners. Every time I look at my display case, I’m in awe just by the fact that these beautiful updated versions even exist. I grew up with G1 brick combiners so it’s hard for me to nitpick anything unless it literally falls apart in my hands. I have no plans to get Ares because Feral Rex is more my taste. I’m thinking about buying the Protectobots all at once in the inevitable gift pack put together by online retailers. It’s actually good that there are so many TFC haters because it will help me get a better deal on the whole set when BBTS liquidates them. Just my two cents. TFC seems to run the market with combiners. Theres a rumor floating around that TFC is behind Warbotron.

i hope tfc is not behind warbotron because it's got those hollow leg elbows going on and onslaught looks weird in bot mode. I love TFC combiners for their size, cool appearance, and lack of hollow leg elbows in combined mode. that is so ugly and lazy IMO. seems TFC is the only combiner- maker to not do the hollow leg/elbow thing. If it is TFC its a big let down in both the elbow thing and the appearance dept.

Uranos has hollow leg elbows. TFC hasn't escaped them.

I'm starting to be turned around to liking TFC, but their figures do seem to need some add-ons to really make 'em work. Although I'm happy with their Superion he does have his faults.

But I also hope they aren't behind Warbotron. He's too big. If I buy a replacement for Colossus, I'd rather he be TFC standard size than something massively out of place for Classics.

I don't like the TFC Combiners. The sculpts look undersculpted.weird & not G-1 enough. Having combiners team members all be Voyagers or Ultras is extreme oversized. The prices are high & almost double compared to the competitors.

I only have Hercules, and while I enjoy him, I wish he were better made. The plastic could be better (the waxy variety they used feels pretty cheap), and the joints could be more durable. But he's the only true, modern Devastator on the market, and for that I am thankful. I understand my plastic/joints problems are less of an issue with Uranos (and presumably Prometheus), but I don't like the aesthetic or designs of their other combiners.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I don't like the TFC Combiners. The sculpts look undersculpted.weird & not G-1 enough. Having combiners team members all be Voyagers or Ultras is extreme oversized. The prices are high & almost double compared to the competitors.

Not really. Again, you might be the only one who wants a modern Devastator that's the same size of the G1 set.

megatronus wrote:I only have Hercules, and while I enjoy him, I wish he were better made. The plastic could be better (the waxy variety they used feels pretty cheap), and the joints could be more durable. But he's the only true, modern Devastator on the market, and for that I am thankful. I understand my plastic/joints problems are less of an issue with Uranos (and presumably Prometheus), but I don't like the aesthetic or designs of their other combiners.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I don't like the TFC Combiners. The sculpts look undersculpted.weird & not G-1 enough. Having combiners team members all be Voyagers or Ultras is extreme oversized. The prices are high & almost double compared to the competitors.

Not really. Again, you might be the only one who wants a modern Devastator that's the same size of the G1 set.

I think MT did a perfect scale & G-1 accurate sculpt for 1985 Devasator.

I'm also well please with the TF Combiners that FP did for Menasor & the MMC Predaking.

I'm quite pleased with my TFC combiners so far, but I do agree with megatronus about the waxy plastics used in their not-Devastator. It's one thing about that set that always bothered me. Their not-Superion is far more solid IMO and while it does use the legs as the elbows, the shape and position of those legs when they are in arm mode makes it far less obvious than on other combiners like FP's not-Bruticus addon kit and FP's Stunticons (both of which I also own).

As for whether or not they're worth it, as another said, you've answered your own question. They're obviously not worth it to you, or at least the set you own at this point isn't. As for me, I'd say hell yes. In fact, so much hell yes that I'm buying their not-Predaking and their not-Defensor and if they follow through with doing a not-Abominus and not-Computron which they've teased a while back, I'll buy those too in all likelihood. I dig TFC's style and larger size and the level of quality is acceptable (I've had more problems with some of FP's more recent offerings than I have TFC's believe it or not).

I like my combiners big so scale isn't a problem for me, especially when we're talking about construction vehicles, airplanes and military vehicles, all of which are much larger than automobiles (and yeah, I'm buying Warbotron too).

The more 3rd party stuff I acquire the more I realize that they're all simply a matter of taste and not one of the ones I own (and I own a LOT) are perfect or even a perfect fit with Classics/Generations (possibly with the exception of Genesis, but only because he is a direct replica of Omega in the game he's based on).

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

megatronus wrote:I only have Hercules, and while I enjoy him, I wish he were better made. The plastic could be better (the waxy variety they used feels pretty cheap), and the joints could be more durable. But he's the only true, modern Devastator on the market, and for that I am thankful. I understand my plastic/joints problems are less of an issue with Uranos (and presumably Prometheus), but I don't like the aesthetic or designs of their other combiners.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I don't like the TFC Combiners. The sculpts look undersculpted.weird & not G-1 enough. Having combiners team members all be Voyagers or Ultras is extreme oversized. The prices are high & almost double compared to the competitors.

Not really. Again, you might be the only one who wants a modern Devastator that's the same size of the G1 set.

I think MT did a perfect scale & G-1 accurate sculpt for 1985 Devasator.

I'm also well please with the TF Combiners that FP did for Menasor & the MMC Predaking.

The individual robot modes for MT Giant are anything but G1 accurate. Whether its G1 toy accuracy or G1 cartoon accuracy that tickles your pickle, Giants individual bot modes have neither. Only mixmaster is even remotely close to G1 but he towers over all the other constructicons. MT really dropped the ball on those bot modes. FP combiner scale is being phased out because it was based on energon scout molds. Even hasblow cancelled the scout class lines. Have you noticed as small as the FP stunticons are, they still tower over munitioner and explorer in bot modes ? FP menasor also towers over FP bruticus. Kiss the mini scale goodbye. Its not coming back. Maybe youll get lucky with MT computron. But dont expect any mini arielbots or combaticons to scale with giant. Granted warbotron is way to big for my tastes. Im not sure why anyone would want non cartoon accurate MP scale figures. That kind of defeats the whole purpose of the MP line. Hopefully well see a bruticus thats bigger than the FP version but smaller than warbotron. That would be awesome.

megatronus wrote:But (Hercules is) the only true, modern Devastator on the market, and for that I am thankful.

Um... did you forget the existence of Giant or something? Even if you don't like him, kind of hard to deny he's a Devastator homage, a more modern take on the characters, and on the market.

I'm trying desperately not to turn this into "Hercules vs. Giant Discussion #1864," so I'll avoid going into how awesome I think Giant is... But to imply that Hercules is the only recent take on Devastator is such a gross inaccuracy as to almost be laughable.

Anyway, back to the original poster's line of questioning... Are TFC Toys products worth it? Well, as far as personal experience, I only have one of their products to judge from. I have their first Gears of War set, because I really, really wanted Inferno to have a ladder.




That all being said, even though I loved the ladder, thought the Autoscout that came with the set was pretty cool, and liked some of the other bits and pieces included, I still feel that the set was somewhat overpriced for what it was.

And the build quality on some of the pieces seemed off. The ladder's plastic does have that "cheap" quality feel to it that many people seem to complain about with TFC toys, although on a supplemental ladder that seems a bit less worrisome then on a whole figure. And any of the chromed pieces seemed to have been sized without taking into consideration the slight extra thickness they would have once the chrome had been added. Thus, Inferno's new chromy hand thingie barely fits onto his fist, and none of the fireable missiles included for other figures are able to be fired. Heck, good luck if you even want to manually disassemble them, so it is best just to be very sure the first time when choosing the color combinations you want to go with and leaving them together forever.

Do I regret buying the Gear of War set? No. Yes, I think it should have been cheaper, but at the time I bought it I was a bit more flush with funds, and I did really want a ladder for Inferno. Will I never buy TFC Toys again? Not necessarily. But nothing else they've done has really appealed to me all that much. Even before Giant became an option, I wasn't really liking (aesthetically or price-wise) what it looked like they were doing with Devastator.

Other combiners they've done since then seem to follow a similar aesthetic and price plan, and so I find myself with similar feelings towards purchasing (or rather, not purchasing) them. (I suppose, aesthetically, their Superion's limb-bots weren't bad... but I think their Silverbolt looked like a mess.) Also, I continue to be unimpressed by their sets needing additional add-ons to achieve a less extremely revisionist look... I'll be most unsurprised when they announce one for their Defensor! I know for people who like the TFC aesthetic, this is not a problem. But I, for one, would rather not feel I am getting an incomplete product that I need to buy an additional set from TFC toys to fix, especially after already paying between $500 - $600 for the combiner in the first place!

If other companies give me combiners that I think look better, and the end products only set me back around $370? (Still a lot of money in my opinion, but over $100 less is not an insignificant savings.) Well, I think I know where I'll be spending my money. I know TFC Toys has their fans, and if they can afford and enjoy TFC's products, then I wish them the best in their enjoyment of their hobby. But I'm still surprised TFC Toys manages to do as well as they do, and doesn't have more detractors.

My TFC combiners are rock solid.

I have Superion standing just fine on the carpet (still need to rearrange the shelf to make room for him!) and he's just fine.

I think the plastic is great too. The only 3p fig in recent memory where the plastic quality really bugged me was Hegemon.

If it isn't your Cup 'o Joe, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I'm 100% happy with all my TFC stuff.

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

megatronus wrote:I only have Hercules, and while I enjoy him, I wish he were better made. The plastic could be better (the waxy variety they used feels pretty cheap), and the joints could be more durable. But he's the only true, modern Devastator on the market, and for that I am thankful. I understand my plastic/joints problems are less of an issue with Uranos (and presumably Prometheus), but I don't like the aesthetic or designs of their other combiners.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I don't like the TFC Combiners. The sculpts look undersculpted.weird & not G-1 enough. Having combiners team members all be Voyagers or Ultras is extreme oversized. The prices are high & almost double compared to the competitors.

Not really. Again, you might be the only one who wants a modern Devastator that's the same size of the G1 set.

I think MT did a perfect scale & G-1 accurate sculpt for 1985 Devasator.

I'm also well please with the TF Combiners that FP did for Menasor & the MMC Predaking.

The individual robot modes for MT Giant are anything but G1 accurate. Whether its G1 toy accuracy or G1 cartoon accuracy that tickles your pickle, Giants individual bot modes have neither. Only mixmaster is even remotely close to G1 but he towers over all the other constructicons. MT really dropped the ball on those bot modes. FP combiner scale is being phased out because it was based on energon scout molds. Even hasblow cancelled the scout class lines. Have you noticed as small as the FP stunticons are, they still tower over munitioner and explorer in bot modes ? FP menasor also towers over FP bruticus. Kiss the mini scale goodbye. Its not coming back. Maybe youll get lucky with MT computron. But dont expect any mini arielbots or combaticons to scale with giant. Granted warbotron is way to big for my tastes. Im not sure why anyone would want non cartoon accurate MP scale figures. That kind of defeats the whole purpose of the MP line. Hopefully well see a bruticus thats bigger than the FP version but smaller than warbotron. That would be awesome.

you just Double or Tripple contradicted all your 3rd toy buying habits. Others here & you yourself had stated you don't like the bigger scale HasTaka & 3rd party TF toys. From What I've read you like the smalls & dislike the bigs.

Others who have replied to you. Have said you dislike the HasTak MP TF toys & the bigger scale Hastak & 3rd party TF toys.

Preaching to others about your dislike about smalls in this reply is the complete opposite of what you stand for. you are the one creating a huge fuss in that IT thread trying to force others to buy that $30 bumblebee. based off you saying if you can spend $300 for a 3rd party omega supreme,why not buy the $30 II bumblebee also

The FP crossfire Swindle & Blastoff were a bit bigger than the Energon Basics. At best these toys are in between sizes.

The FP Stunticons are not basic sized,they are Five inches tall in Robot modes. 1.0 Rodimus Five & a Quarter inch tall in Robot mode. So the FP Stunticons can be easily rounded off to deluxe sized HasTak TF toys. since a Quarter of a inch is so tiny.

HasTak,Has no phased out the smaller scale TF combiners. You clearly have not been paying attention for the past few years. HasTak released a entire PCC line that revolved around Basics that combine with drones. The Kreon line has 2 inch Kreons that combine to form a basic sized combiner. BH had those Five legends sized toys that formed a deluxe sized Abonimus.

HasTak,Has yet to create a MP TF Combiner. So until then,no one knows the scale. It's just inaccurate to say at this point that TFC Hercules is in MP TF scale. At best All the TFC combiners are in there own made up 3rd party MP not-tf scale.

Most consider the MT & FP combiners to be in classics scale not MP TF scale.

Nothing is perfect,The MT Robot modes,vehicle modes & combiner mode is more G-1 accurate than the TFC Hercules could ever dream of being.

Why do you keep changing your buying habits in every thread. do you actually buy these toys? it just seem like you care more about causing a stir in a thread. Instead of stating your honest opinion on things. It just seems like you like to go against the grain,change your opinion,just for the sake of causing a stir & seeing others argue with you in threads.

I love how these innocent threads become battle royales. The troll in me smiles.

Tsutsukakushi, I think you're totally misrepresenting X's views here. Just because he like's IT's minibots does not mean he wants everything to be mini.

Tsutsukakushi wrote: do you actually buy these toys?

How many combiners do you own ???

I have made it very clear that the only large scale I am not a fan of is MP scale because their size gives me the Barbie doll creeps. They do make great conversation pieces for your coffee table though. Additionally I dislike Blitzwing being voyager scale because it doesn't scale with Astrotrain or Octane which I am very happy with. And Springer being a voyager is a joke. He towers over the rest of the G1 movie cast to extreme proportions. I'm much more satisfied with FP Defender because the scale works much better by G1 movie standards.

I'm not sure why you would consider the FP Stunticons deluxe scale. Whether you're referring to the new scaled down deluxes or the old Universe deluxes most of us miss, The FP stunticons are neither.



At best, FP stunticons are scouts on steroids.



And so Ive heard on these boards the scout scale has been eliminated from Hasbro's future lines. Im not talking about PCC or HA junior figures from 2 years ago. Im talking about what Hasbro is currently doing and moving forward.

The only third party company who is trying to stay close to Hasbro deluxe scale with their combiner is Toyworld. I'm actually looking forward to displaying Throttler for a while.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:it just seem like you care more about causing a stir in a thread. Instead of stating your honest opinion on things. It just seems like you like to go against the grain,change your opinion,just for the sake of causing a stir & seeing others argue with you in threads.

As you can see I back up everything I say with cold hard cash. If I discuss it, I either own it or really hate it. I collect my way. Not yours, or anyone elses. Maybe I am against the grain. But my collection is built on what I speak here. I don't come on here to argue with people. But I admit it can be fun sometimes. I never take stuff personal on here as long as you don't resort to name calling. I took one last picture with you in mind. Hope you enjoy. Im going to drink that quart I posted in the 1st picture. Peace out !

I have Giant instead of Herc, I like Giant, but sometimes I wish I had Herc just because TFC is covering all the combiners... plus the MMC Predaking can go with the TFC bots too....

I wish there was a Superion in Giant/Not-Menasor scale at least ...

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote: do you actually buy these toys?

How many combiners do you own ???

I have made it very clear that the only large scale I am not a fan of is MP scale because their size gives me the Barbie doll creeps. They do make great conversation pieces for your coffee table though. Additionally I dislike Blitzwing being voyager scale because it doesn't scale with Astrotrain or Octane which I am very happy with. And Springer being a voyager is a joke. He towers over the rest of the G1 movie cast to extreme proportions. I'm much more satisfied with FP Defender because the scale works much better by G1 movie standards.

I'm not sure why you would consider the FP Stunticons deluxe scale. Whether you're referring to the new scaled down deluxes or the old Universe deluxes most of us miss, The FP stunticons are neither.

At best, FP stunticons are scouts on steroids.

And so Ive heard on these boards the scout scale has been eliminated from Hasbro's future lines. Im not talking about PCC or HA junior figures from 2 years ago. Im talking about what Hasbro is currently doing and moving forward.

The only third party company who is trying to stay close to Hasbro deluxe scale with their combiner is Toyworld. I'm actually looking forward to displaying Throttler for a while.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:it just seem like you care more about causing a stir in a thread. Instead of stating your honest opinion on things. It just seems like you like to go against the grain,change your opinion,just for the sake of causing a stir & seeing others argue with you in threads.

As you can see I back up everything I say with cold hard cash. If I discuss it, I either own it or really hate it. I collect my way. Not yours, or anyone elses. Maybe I am against the grain. But my collection is built on what I speak here. I don't come on here to argue with people. But I admit it can be fun sometimes. I never take stuff personal on here as long as you don't resort to name calling. I took one last picture with you in mind. Hope you enjoy. Im going to drink that quart I posted in the 1st picture. Peace out !

Hasbro getting rid of the Commander scale is pure nonsense. for the past few years ever since the Economy went sour. the smalls have increased while the bigs decreased.

The Four inch TF toys are not going away. Yes the assortment name might change,packaging will change & the price may go up. But the Four inch TF toys currently known as commanders are not getting cancelled.

I'm confused you want 3rd party combiners to be in MP TF scale. Yet you dislike the HasTak MP TF toys scale.

Did you ever contemplate that HasTak & Fans always thought certain classics Generations toys were made too small. Due to budget restraints & the economy. So the newer bigger versions are correcting the scale.

I suspect those FP stunticons in your pics are photoshopped. Because I own all Four FP Stuntions. I measured each one in robot mode. They are Five inches tall in robot mode. The average Commander TF toys is about 4 inches tall. HasTaks average TF Deluxe is about 5.5 inches tall in robot mode. HasTak does not make any TF deluxes over 6 inches tall in robot mode. In 2012 most of HasTak's deluxes were well below the 5.5 inch size in robot mode. 1.0 deluxe Rodimus measures in a bit under Five & a Quarter inch in robot mode.

Going by your replies set rules,the FOC Combaticons are using the more outdatted toy scale. The 2014 Quadro Kreon Combiners & BH Abonimus are newer toys,So this currently reflects HasTaka's TF combiners intended toy scale.

That last paragraph in your reply is puzzling. Because I read various threads for the past Two weeks here. Nobody is insulting your buying habbits. You are the one insulting everyones 3rd party buying habbits. by overly insisting they buy IT Bumblebee because he's only $30. calling members cheap,having low paying jobs. Saying they can spend hundreds on this toy but can't afford to spend $30 on this one.

I don't collect TF toys for bragging rights or to be in competition with anyone. There are more important things in life to try to make others jealous of like girls,jobs,house kids & family. Other than on-line fans,no adult gets jealous over grown men owning toys.

Your what is known as a forum kill joy. As you take pleasure in turning fun threads into sour ones. your toy buying views change in every thread,just fot the sake of you trying to evoke a argumentive spirit in a fun thread.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I suspect those FP stunticons in your pics are photoshopped.

Wow... Just wow... Look, I disagree with a lot of what Rated X says, and how abrasively and tactless he usually says it, to the point that I've blocked his posts and usually only see them when he's the next person to respond (and thus I see it in the notification e-mail) or someone quotes his post, as you just did. But I think (a) you've got him beat here, and (b) I actually have to back him up on this one, at least as far as your wild accusation of him faking pictures. Are you sure you have the Fansproject Stunticons, and didn't just imagine getting them or something? Because I, too, have them, and their size in his photos looks pretty accurate.

That's not to say that I'm not personally happy with their size, and would love to get into a lengthy discussion about them... but this isn't the, "Fansproject, are they worth it?" discussion thread, so I shall refrain for now.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I suspect those FP stunticons in your pics are photoshopped.

Seriously ???



Even a expert couldn't Photoshop this image without distorting the words in the background or the reflections on the keyboard. Hey look, it's your name !


The damn FP figures are nowhere deluxe scale. I'm not sure what class you mean when you say "commander". I don't keep up with Hasbro's constant name changes for their toy scales.

I'm not telling people to buy IT Bumblebee. I'm saying if they don't like it, make a constructive complaint about the aesthetic rather than whining over the price. Everyone kept attacking the price like if 30 bucks is some kind of small fortune that could send them to the poorhouse. Not one person wanted to comment about why they didn't like the figures other than the price. That was lame.

I apologize for the last picture. I confused you with the another guy who is always waging a war against KO's.

Yotsuyasan wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I suspect those FP stunticons in your pics are photoshopped.

Wow... Just wow... Look, I disagree with a lot of what Rated X says, and how abrasively and tactless he usually says it, to the point that I've blocked his posts and usually only see them when he's the next person to respond (and thus I see it in the notification e-mail) or someone quotes his post, as you just did. But I think (a) you've got him beat here, and (b) I actually have to back him up on this one, at least as far as your wild accusation of him faking pictures. Are you sure you have the Fansproject Stunticons, and didn't just imagine getting them or something? Because I, too, have them, and their size in his photos looks pretty accurate.

That's not to say that I'm not personally happy with their size, and would love to get into a lengthy discussion about them... but this isn't the, "Fansproject, are they worth it?" discussion thread, so I shall refrain for now.

Yes,I own the four FP Stunticons. I transformed them once,measured them & put them back in there boxes. I am waiting for Diesel to combine them. Calling the FP Stunticons Basics is a wrong size scale. as the FP Stunticons measure in at Five inches tall. There has never been a basic,scout or commander that has measured in at Five inches tall.

Calling the FP Stunticons deluxe scale is not wrong. As HasTak has released several TF deluxes at the Five inch robot scale.

Rated X wrote: I'm not telling people to buy IT Bumblebee. I'm saying if they don't like it, make a constructive complaint about the aesthetic rather than whining over the price. Everyone kept attacking the price like if 30 bucks is some kind of small fortune that could send them to the poorhouse. Not one person wanted to comment about why they didn't like the figures other than the price. That was lame.

Then I suggest you revisit that IT BB thread & read all the replies. Because Almost everyone did give valid reasons on why they disliked the IT BB based off aesthetics. The comments some gave were it's smaller than a HasTak Legends sized TF toy. Sculpt is low. not enough Articulation. Too small. Doesn't look good posed next to newer HasTak toys in a similar scale. Looks outdated.

You were overly telling everyone to buy it. by demeaning there recent 3rd party TF toy purchases. openly mocking their income,mocking there jobs & budgets. saying stuff like if they can afford to buy a $300 3rd party toy like omega supreme,then they have to buy IT Bumblebee.

Even after some said they didn't like IT Bumblebee for valid aesthetics reasons. you further openly mocked them. by saying that they'd be all over this if it went on clearance.

Rated X wrote:I apologize for the last picture. I confused you with the other guy who is always waging a war against KO's.

Would that'd be me, the guy who actually defended you (admittedly a bit backhandedly) in my last post?

Yotsuyasan wrote:

Rated X wrote:I apologize for the last picture. I confused you with the other guy who is always waging a war against KO's.

Would that'd be me, the guy who actually defended you (admittedly a bit backhandedly) in my last post?

No offense but I got you guys confused. But even though you disagree with me 99% of the time, at least you can be quite humble. For that I thank you. And you know I don't Photoshop stuff.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote: I'm not telling people to buy IT Bumblebee. I'm saying if they don't like it, make a constructive complaint about the aesthetic rather than whining over the price. Everyone kept attacking the price like if 30 bucks is some kind of small fortune that could send them to the poorhouse. Not one person wanted to comment about why they didn't like the figures other than the price. That was lame.

Then I suggest you revisit that IT BB thread & read all the replies. Because Almost everyone did give valid reasons on why they disliked the IT BB based off aesthetics. The comments some gave were it's smaller than a HasTak Legends sized TF toy. Sculpt is low. not enough Articulation. Too small. Doesn't look good posed next to newer HasTak toys in a similar scale. Looks outdated.

You were overly telling everyone to buy it. by demeaning there recent 3rd party TF toy purchases. openly mocking their income,mocking there jobs & budgets. saying stuff like if they can afford to buy a $300 3rd party toy like omega supreme,then they have to buy IT Bumblebee.

Even after some said they didn't like IT Bumblebee for valid aesthetics reasons. you further openly mocked them. by saying that they'd be all over this if it went on clearance.

Im talking about comments AFTER I brought the thread back from the dead asking if any new news had surfaced. That's when they all bombarded the thread with price complaints. Nobody bothered to simply say "I haven't heard anything new" until someone posted those new pics way after the negativity began. And the guy who made a complaint about the small size only said that as a reason to attack the price. I could give a crap less if any of them buy the figure. But I would bet that if it goes on clearance for 15 bucks at least SOME of them would buy it. Maybe I'm wrong about the whole coffee shop collector generalization. But what if I was right ? If I was to take a wild guess at who I might have inadvertently described, I would point to the person who got most offended. The truth sometimes hurts.