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Takara Rhinox is more show-accurate color-wise than Hasbro Rhinox.Manterax Prime wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:That is friggin' awesome.Hasbro and Takara are really knocking these Beast Wars figures out of the park. I would pay nearly any amount if they were to do all of the original fourteen Beast Wars characters.
Please, Hasbro. Please.
I believe you meant to say "Hasbro is" but ended up putting "and Takara are". Takara has yet to put out an accurate Beast Wars paint job in the Generations line.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Takara Rhinox is more show-accurate color-wise than Hasbro Rhinox.
"Metallic" (as in "shiny") is not a color.Manterax Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Takara Rhinox is more show-accurate color-wise than Hasbro Rhinox.
Rhinox was never metallic bronze in the show. So, no. It isn't. Try again sir.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:"Metallic" (as in "shiny") is not a color.Manterax Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Takara Rhinox is more show-accurate color-wise than Hasbro Rhinox.
Rhinox was never metallic bronze in the show. So, no. It isn't. Try again sir.
To be fair, we've only seen stock photography rather than in hand pics of the final product.Manterax Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:"Metallic" (as in "shiny") is not a color.Manterax Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Takara Rhinox is more show-accurate color-wise than Hasbro Rhinox.
Rhinox was never metallic bronze in the show. So, no. It isn't. Try again sir.
If Takara Rhinox were brown, I would completely agree on it being more accurate, but it's not brown, it's bronze. It's more accurate to the colors of the Armada release of Transmetal Rhinox.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Manterax Prime wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:That is friggin' awesome.Hasbro and Takara are really knocking these Beast Wars figures out of the park. I would pay nearly any amount if they were to do all of the original fourteen Beast Wars characters.
Please, Hasbro. Please.
I believe you meant to say "Hasbro is" but ended up putting "and Takara are". Takara has yet to put out an accurate Beast Wars paint job in the Generations line.
Rated X wrote:Glad to see this, he looks great ! Ratrap is my favorite Beast Wars character because out of the original Season one cast, he is the only character that isn't a reboot of a G1 character. He has a unique personality of his own.
Optimus Primal - Optimus Prime (Duh)
Rhinkx - Ratchet (boring medic)
Cheetor - Hot Rod (young upstart)
Dinobot - Starscream (Imfamous traitor - seeks leadership)
Megatron - Megatron (duh)
Scorponok - Soundwave (Loyal to megratron)
Terrasaur - Another version of Starscream
Taruntalas - Shockwave (scientist with his own lair)
Waspinator - ??? (Ok his personality is unique as well)
TimothyR wrote:
i mean, besides primal, megatron and cheetor.. most of the characters personalities are rather different. you can point out small aspects of each of them that could be similar to other characters, but i think you could point out things about everyone that are the same as someone else.
What's more is that, when originally creating the Beast Wars cartoon characters, Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio went into the show with almost no prior knowledge of anything to have come in Transformers fiction before 1996. They basically approached the show with a completely clean slate, taking no inspiration from any G1 fiction until much much later in the show.ScottyP wrote:TimothyR wrote:
i mean, besides primal, megatron and cheetor.. most of the characters personalities are rather different. you can point out small aspects of each of them that could be similar to other characters, but i think you could point out things about everyone that are the same as someone else.
+1/seconded/liked/all that. Using common archetypes /= direct reuse of a character in a different shell. Especially in the case of Beast Wars, and heck, even Primal and Megatron have some readily identifiable differences (personality wise) from the G1 Prime and Megatron. I'd even say that Cheetor isn't even very Hot Rod like, so much as just the typical "brash young warrior" stereotype found in a metric ton of fantasy media.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
That's how it used to be, yes. But ever since 2007, the process seems to have reversed or at least taken a different approach with the toy and show designs being designed relatively more closer to each other or the toys being based off the show model.GuyIncognito wrote:I know the toys usually come out in stores AFTER they've appeared in the cartoons, but aren't the toys designed BEFORE they appear in the cartoons? If the toy is blue, but appears purple in the cartoon, is it necessarily the toy that's the wrong color, or is it possible that the animation studio got the color wrong?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That's how it used to be, yes. But ever since 2007, the process seems to have reversed or at least taken a different approach with the toy and show designs being designed relatively more closer to each other or the toys being based off the show model.GuyIncognito wrote:I know the toys usually come out in stores AFTER they've appeared in the cartoons, but aren't the toys designed BEFORE they appear in the cartoons? If the toy is blue, but appears purple in the cartoon, is it necessarily the toy that's the wrong color, or is it possible that the animation studio got the color wrong?
GuyIncognito wrote:I guess my point is this: if the toy and the cartoon version look different, why is it always the TOY that's considered "wrong"? The cartoons are essentially advertisements for the toys, so if the depiction of the product in the ad differs from the actual product, isn't it the ad that's "wrong"?
Noideaforaname wrote:Because people first see the character in the show, then go and buy the toy of it. Most people don't view the cartoons as mere advertisements for toys, rather they view the toys as mere cash-in for the show. After all, that's how it is for virtually every other show/movie/video games.
TimothyR wrote:
i never looked at rhinox as being a ratchet.. but rather an amalgamate of ratchet and ironhide.. i mean.. you'd never see ratchet with gattling guns like that.
Noideaforaname wrote:Sure, a toyline is probably a greater source of money than the show it's tied to, and sure, lots of shows owe their existence to toys... but that doesn't change the fact that most people connect to a fictional character via the show (and buy the toy because of that connection), so show accuracy trumps toy accuracy for that reason.
Noideaforaname wrote:Sure, a toyline is probably a greater source of money than the show it's tied to, and sure, lots of shows owe their existence to toys... but that doesn't change the fact that most people connect to a fictional character via the show (and buy the toy because of that connection), so show accuracy trumps toy accuracy for that reason.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
GuyIncognito wrote:I guess my point is this: if the toy and the cartoon version look different, why is it always the TOY that's considered "wrong"? The cartoons are essentially advertisements for the toys, so if the depiction of the product in the ad differs from the actual product, isn't it the ad that's "wrong"?
Erm, no, the gorilla and T-Rex toys were made before the show came out. Those toys were the very things that the cartoon models were based on. There were even plans to make Optimus Primal a bat/gorilla/robot triple changer in the cartoon, but those plans never came about.Spider5800 wrote:It doesn't help the perception that the guys making the show were clearly not on the same page as Hasbro. One made Prime and Megs a bat and an alligator while the other made them a gorilla and a t-rex (didn't get toys of the show's version until months after it had been running, maybe even a year),
They did for Waspinator and Taratulas, at least, igonoring the "robot" heads for those two and instead using their "mutant" heads for their cartoon models.Spider5800 wrote:the original toys had those silly alternate heads the show never touched,
Scale is pretty much a joke in Transformers anyway.Spider5800 wrote:the scales on the toys were way off (toy Optimus is supposed to be King Kong sized, while Rhinox is a shrimp),
Even though the only reason the Transmetals appeared in the show was because Hasbro requested that the show promote the Transmetal toys.Spider5800 wrote:transmetal toys were made for characters that were killed off or not altered in the show...I liked that line, but it was pretty obvious the two groups were acting independently of each other, even when I was a kid.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Erm, no, the gorilla and T-Rex toys were made before the show came out. Those toys were the very things that the cartoon models were based on. There were even plans to make Optimus Primal a bat/gorilla/robot triple changer in the cartoon, but those plans never came about.
Sabrblade wrote:They did for Waspinator and Taratulas, at least, igonoring the "robot" heads for those two and instead using their "mutant" heads for their cartoon models.
Sabrblade wrote:Scale is pretty much a joke in Transformers anyway.![]()
Sabrblade wrote:Even though the only reason the Transmetals appeared in the show was because Hasbro requested that the show promote the Transmetal toys.
TheMuffin wrote:This coupled with Rhinox and Waspinator are really getting me interested in Transformers again. Such a nice thing to see Beast Wars getting some love again.
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