Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I am posting here to come back later, but I strongly disagree with the notion that Prime was badly written.
It was a great show that I still really love and I think did a great job and did a lot of good for the franchise
Deadput wrote:I decided that my final post/thread on this site will be about the writing qualities of the show which was the start of my year long journey to finally detesting the franchise and the community.
Burn wrote:Deadput wrote:I decided that my final post/thread on this site will be about the writing qualities of the show which was the start of my year long journey to finally detesting the franchise and the community.
I have to wonder if there's a point to keeping this thread open given that you won't even hang around to bother discussing it.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Burn wrote:You rename the thread by editing your first post.
Guess this means you're hanging around. Plus I knew you had to try to get the final word in like always.
I had a **** week too, banning you might help improve my mood.
Tigerhawk7109 wrote:I completely agree. You do the show a disservice by belittling everything about it. Prime tried something different, and it did it well. Very well. How can you argue with nine Daytime Emmy wins? Prime was the show that brought me to Transformers. It is still, in my opinion, the best of the best.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
Deadput wrote:Burn wrote:You rename the thread by editing your first post.
Guess this means you're hanging around. Plus I knew you had to try to get the final word in like always.
I had a **** week too, banning you might help improve my mood.
Huh didn't know that was a thing, then again I've made like what 1 or 2 threads before this one, I'll change the title and hopefully when I'm completely cooled down I can turn this around into something productive.
Yeah that's absolutely true got me there, can't walk away from anything it just irritates me if I leave what I considered to be an unfinished conversation especially if I was feeling heated during it which for sure inspired making this thread and that final post in the Cyberverse discussion thread which was admittedly done from angered spite, I also can't quite walk away from the franchise even when I want to do so that I still get excited by toy reveals and even that Netflix Transformers show trailer got to me.
Friggen hell I went and bought the Siege Skywarp set after seeing it come back in stock on Canada Amazon yesterday after seeing it disappear weeks ago.
If it makes you feel better I was thinking of asking for a temp ban anyways, think it might do wonders for my mind state, getting banned on a couple of sites in the past has partially help my temperament so I know that a month or two long ban would probably bother me and teach me to actually not say something just because I want to, overall I'm asking for it because I probably deserve it at this point for constantly being a pain and it's not something I can just get away with.Tigerhawk7109 wrote:I completely agree. You do the show a disservice by belittling everything about it. Prime tried something different, and it did it well. Very well. How can you argue with nine Daytime Emmy wins? Prime was the show that brought me to Transformers. It is still, in my opinion, the best of the best.
I'm sorry for getting into a fuss in the Cyberverse discussion thread with you and everyone else in the convo, people talking about TFP in positive light is something that just sets me off.
TFP is probably not as bad as a show as I remember it, and to be honest I didn't hate the show when I finished watching it as it aired all those years ago, I was only disappointing, I only started to hate it once I saw other online communities pick and rip the show apart and point out writing flaws which as a person who has become a major critic (no small part due to those studies that I talked about, I value those studies) it made me turn on the show even more.
For me besides the show itself the aligned continuity for me living through that era for my early to late teens, it only left me with disappointment, not just the show letting me down but also what happened to things like the High Moon games, the Transformers Universe game that I was so excited for, among other things even going through the RID cartoon as well as the after effect that led to the current "smaller budged" state of the franchise, the live action series going the way they did also effects how I see the aligned continuity, for me I can't see it as anything but a colossal failure which was mostly started when I found out about the behind the scenes aspects of TFP and the disregard the show creators had to Hasbro, there were several tidbits revealed after TFP ended that just made me hate it when it was simply a disappointment before.
To me I see the infighting behind the scenes being the cause of those disappointing aspects, I despise the infighting that has spread throughout all the fan communities I'm a part of over the years, Transformers, Halo, Star Wars, etc any time I see arguments or negativity towards any part of a franchise it ticks me off and the only way I can vent when I'm angry is by taking it out which so happens to sometimes be through online arguments which is something that I feel I must always get the last word in, if I don't win an argument then I view the venting as not having worked.
The behind the scenes infighting is why I feel like I can justifiably trash talk about those creators, I have no dislike towards the other creative talent on the show such as the voice actors (all of them did great performances...besides Peter Cullen I feel but not because of his performance itself but the VO direction I feel to be flawed, I do think that TFP Optimus is still the worse one in the franchise, to me he is a total kill joy in comparison to the actors great performances in other parts of the franchise like the Cybertron games and the live action films, I know Peter could do better which is why I feel like his TFP performance was not good)
I wanted Transformers Prime to be the best...I wanted it to be an epic grand thing that would only make the franchise grow even more and become even better including what other projects like the High Moon Studios games were doing or could of become because the potential was there and it was so close, but because that wasn't what happened it became the worst, I was let down to the point it's made me enjoy the franchise less, I liked things that have come out since like RID, Bumblebee movie and Cyberverse but there is a part of me that just feels like it's not the best outcome that could of or rather should of happened.
My dislike of TFP and calling it a bad show is my opinion yes and it was rude and disrespectful for me to end up belittling you, I admit I emotionally don't like seeing people like the show I can't enjoy and it is irrational for me to act that way.
This all probably comes off across like excuses and I suppose they are, despite having reasons for thinking the way I do it does not justify the things I said in the other thread and my intentionally spiteful actions such as creating this thread as a way to spit on the fandom as a final leave.
Tigerhawk7109 wrote:I forgive you. I know what it feels like to have a terrible week, and writing helps me with that. Sorry for being so aggressive towards my point. Sometimes, I just get really defensive of my opinions. Prime is still my favorite.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Tigerhawk7109 wrote:I forgive you. I know what it feels like to have a terrible week, and writing helps me with that. Sorry for being so aggressive towards my point. Sometimes, I just get really defensive of my opinions. Prime is still my favorite.
It's fine, I was on the offensive against you guys and your like for the show.
Tigerhawk7109 wrote:Deadput wrote:Tigerhawk7109 wrote:I forgive you. I know what it feels like to have a terrible week, and writing helps me with that. Sorry for being so aggressive towards my point. Sometimes, I just get really defensive of my opinions. Prime is still my favorite.
It's fine, I was on the offensive against you guys and your like for the show.
Then I suppose we can reach a cease fire. (Full review of the show coming soon!)
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
ZeroWolf wrote:I think part of the issue with Cliffjumper was who they got as his VO, Dwayne Johnson is not cheap, so him dying early on was a boon to the budget and gave me a sense of deja vu to Alfred Hitchcocks Psycho, where the biggest name was the first to go.
Also there's no suprise that Ratchets VO was so good, it's Jeffery Combs! Whether he's bringing one of HP Lovecraft's most infamous characters to life or playing a creepy fbi agent opposite Michael J Fox, he always brings his A game.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:After Prime, every Ratchet and Starscream I see and read has Jeffrey Comb's and Steve Blum's voices, those 2 are the definitive ones for me
Tigerhawk7109 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:After Prime, every Ratchet and Starscream I see and read has Jeffrey Comb's and Steve Blum's voices, those 2 are the definitive ones for me
Totally agree. Steve Blum in particular for me.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Tigerhawk7109 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:After Prime, every Ratchet and Starscream I see and read has Jeffrey Comb's and Steve Blum's voices, those 2 are the definitive ones for me
Totally agree. Steve Blum in particular for me.
This I can agree with I think their performances are great.
Combs is the default Ratchet voice I hear but for Starscream Blum is default for the more "sinister/serious" Starscreams while Sam Riegel the voice of the Cybertron Games Starscream is the more traditional Screamer voice I hear since I think it coveys the original voice's "weaselly" tone perfectly.
Which reminds me that I liked Starscream in the majority of the first 2 seasons besides his dull lack of colors (plain grey was boring with the Decepticons, it's not bad but most of the Decepticons had dull colors besides Knockout and Breakdown in the early seasons) and loved when he was making the decisions since I see that he got more results for the Decepticons in the show then Megatron did, I just didn't like how he became so..."loyal" once he joined back up with the Decepticons for the last bit of season 2 and season 3, he no longer had any ambitions which was sad to see.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I saw it as surprising character growth, after realizing out on his own that he wasn't good by himself, he needed the decepticon family, so to speak.
I really liked the Blum voice for him, it oozed slimey manipulator, you knew you could never trust him, and his panicked voice was spot on too
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
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