The Energon Pub

by **Autobot Snake Eyes** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:41 am

Sounds like I will just have to snag one off ebay then.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:05 pm

Front paged Counterpunch's statement. Still not 'officially' announced yet, but all signs are pointing to 'yes, we are sold out'...

News Credits: 97 · by **Savage** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:03 pm

Yep, I too just called FunPub, spoke with Angie.
Primus Packages sold out as of Monday (2/25).
Alternative Packages will be decided and announced soon.
Anybody who faxed in a registration for a Primus Package after they sold out on Monday has been placed on a waiting list until the alternatives are decided.

News Credits: 194 · by **RodimusConvoy13** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:17 pm

Savage wrote:Yep, I too just called FunPub, spoke with Angie.
Primus Packages sold out as of Monday (2/25).
Alternative Packages will be decided and announced soon.
Anybody who faxed in a registration for a Primus Package after they sold out on Monday has been placed on a waiting list until the alternatives are decided.

*EDIT* okay.. I swear to God this wasn't the post I was responding to. But that post seems to have disappeared.

Also, there is a lot more to Botcon than just the exclusives. You'll be missing out on a lot of fun if you cancel your trip.

News Credits: 97 · by **Savage** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:25 pm

lol, yeah, i editted my post after i talked to FunPub, though "editted" really means "rewrote entirely"

I'm still going, but I'm pissed I won't get a Goldbug. Anybody that doesn't want their Goldbug, find me at BotCon, I'll buy it off you.

News Credits: 38 · by **TheMuffin** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:43 pm

I'm faxing mine in this weekend regardless. The "alternative" better be a semi refund or the opportunity to have a set shipped like they do with the non attendee packages.

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:26 pm

I'd be absolutely shocked if more boxed sets become available, or even loose sets. Iacon Sets selling out that early should have been a warning to people.

As for that alternative option, maybe they'llwork a package with Megs/Rodimus or something like that.

Again, I'm just glad I slipped mine in on time (barely)

To be honest, I was considering not going this year if I didn't get Primus.

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:44 pm

The latest news:

This is going out to all members. If you have received a confirmation email concerning your registration, this notice does not apply to you.

The demand for this year's BotCon figure sets (both boxed and loose) has been unprecedented… and they are now officially SOLD OUT. Since manufacturing of the sets has already been completed, we are not able to obtain additional quantities.

In order to accommodate those who are still planning to attend, we are providing you with two new options:

1) You can still come as a Primus Package holder and we will substitute a 2005 BotCon Boxed Set
Descent into Evil (click <a href=http://www.transformersclub.com/figurepreview.cfm>here</a> to view) - at the reduced cost of $250 for Club members, $300 for non-members - and in addition, you will receive this year's free attending figure. Loose sets are also available for $130 for Club members and $165 for non-members.

So that you can see what you will be getting this year, we have decided to do something we have never done before...we are going to unveil the free attending figure this Friday! This is the first time we have shown the free attending figure before the start of BotCon!

2) We are creating a new attending package designed for this year only!
The Energon Package includes admission to all events (just like the Primus Package, including the Casino Night Awards Dinner) a convention badge, pin and comic/program (no toys). The Energon Package is $180 for Club members, $230 for non-members.

If you have sent in a registration since February 14, we will be emailing or calling you to find out which package you want to switch to.

Attached you will find the current registration form with the new options.

Thank you, once again, for your support! We look forward to seeing you in Cincinnati!

Brian

PS. For those of you who have already registered, confirmation letters will be going in the mail this week.

If you still need a hotel, theMillennium Hotel - 800-876-2100 or 513-352-2100

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:50 pm

That's an interesting way to do it. Funny how the demand for the 2005 set differs so much from this one.

However, if they open up those loose sets to everyone (and not just people who missed out on Primus)I could see myself buying one of those for the Ironhide.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:12 pm

That's really not a bad deal there...

interesting...

News Credits: 38 · by **TheMuffin** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:16 pm

Okay now that is acceptable. I'm not sure which I should choose now. I think I'll just go with the non toys package. But I want to see the attending figure first before I make that decision.

EDIT: Thanks for the update Lapse. Front paged.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:54 pm

TheMuffin wrote:Okay now that is acceptable. I'm not sure which I should choose now. I think I'll just go with the non toys package. But I want to see the attending figure first before I make that decision.

EDIT: Thanks for the update Lapse. Front paged.

dude, it's not that much more for the box set. Deathsaurus is pimp.

by **Prowl86** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:14 pm

You know, if the attendee figure is good, I may consider a protoform package. Although, I still NEED that Grimlock. (I'll pay up to $55, you can mail him or, if I decide to go, you can meet me there with Grimmy. PM me!)

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:37 pm

While the 2005 figures are a good set, to a serious collector who already has the 2005 set this does little good to make up for the disappointment of the Shattered Glass sell-out. However, serious collectors should also know better and buy the Botcon set right away.

Fun Pub. has a tricky job. They have to anticipate demand for a set far in advance while at the same time be careful not to get stuck with a lot of overstock.

I'm just glad I faxed my order in right away, even though I can't attend Botcon.

I am willing to trade my loose Iacon set for the free figure and all the souvenior sets if anyone out there is interested.

News Credits: 97 · by **Savage** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:02 am

*sighs*
Well, tis better than nothing. At least I'll still get this year's Attending Figure.

I really only wanted Goldbug and maybe Starscream out of the Boxed Set this year, but I really have no desire for anything in the 05 Set. However, just to put this out there, what I really really want are the Seekers and Dreadwind from the 07 Set, and I'd trade the 05 Boxed Set in its entirety for even a loose set of Seekers and Dreadwind (i have no concern for Weirdwolf)

Ah, well, I'm sure there are folks out there who want this 05 Set, and one of them is bound to have something I want, right?

At least I can walk around BotCon clutching a box like it's pure gold this year like all you other crazies. Last year, I was merely a Protoform and didnt have a box to cling to.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:07 am

Savage wrote:At least I can walk around BotCon clutching a box like it's pure gold this year like all you other crazies. Last year, I was merely a Protoform and didnt have a box to cling to.

You were hanging out with us last year, yes?

News Credits: 32 · by **UltraPrimal** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:53 am

I'm already confirmed for the Shattered Glass set, but what if I want to buy a Descent into Evil boxed set in addition? They mention that you can buy loose sets, but what about boxed sets? Are they saving them for the people who have not gotten Primus Packages yet?

I'm tempted to get them, but I'm afraid that if I do they'll screw up my registration and I'll end up with just the 05 set and nothing else. Just like last year how I got screwed out of the customizing class and Hasbro tour.

by **allhailmegatron#1** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:32 pm

i wanted that so bad it stinks that its gone :sad:

but i might have traded it for that 2005 set just for that ironhide ya know finally with a head

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:38 pm

I'm really hoping they open up the 2005 loose set at that price to everyone. I'd pay that to get the Ironhide and then trade off the others.

News Credits: 97 · by **Savage** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:44 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
Savage wrote:At least I can walk around BotCon clutching a box like it's pure gold this year like all you other crazies. Last year, I was merely a Protoform and didnt have a box to cling to.

You were hanging out with us last year, yes?

Yep, though, your reputation hadn't preceded you yet at the time, so I was unaware. I'm looking forward to tracking you all down again this year, now that I've been on Seibertron.com for a while and actually know who people are!

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:56 pm

Savage wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Savage wrote:At least I can walk around BotCon clutching a box like it's pure gold this year like all you other crazies. Last year, I was merely a Protoform and didnt have a box to cling to.

You were hanging out with us last year, yes?

Yep, though, your reputation hadn't preceded you yet at the time, so I was unaware. I'm looking forward to tracking you all down again this year, now that I've been on Seibertron.com for a while and actually know who people are!

Excellent. I wasn't too sure, I had thought you told me you went by 'Savage Prime' for some reason. You'll definately have to come party with us Friday and Saturday.

by **captain craig** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:06 pm

There really is no excuse for running out of sets this early. Their business model for anticipating normal con growth is horrid. They have had exclusive set issues for the last 3 years now. With the movie out and TF demand/interest up any model of growth they've been using would need adjustment. They not only are not factoring normal growth correctly they apparently didn't fator in movie interest or how selling out of the 2007 sets would impact this years anticipation.

I actually think this is a good encore to last years set. I was at the con in '05 and didn't buy the set then cause they were crappy. Having them as an option for this year is an insult.

I hope people do cancel their plans to come so they can realize and actually see how their poor planning is going to impact the bottom line. One down year with the reasons being realized and irked dealers should help correct the problem. Having extra sets is not the end of the world should they overorder. Case in point they overordered on '05 and the con didn't shut down. It wouldn't have this year either.

News Credits: 38 · by **TheMuffin** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:26 pm

While I tend to agree with you somewhat in that their planning was horrible, I don't agree that they should be boycotted for underestimating demand.

Regardless, I got my email and will be sending in my fax to them tomorrow. $300 is a nice discount compared to the original price. And while I have the originals of every single one of those figures, I guess I'm okay with getting some exclusive repaints. Though I can't sell the few I dislike to recoup some of my losses like I was originally planning on doing with this years set.

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:40 pm

As a business owner, I totally understand unexpected supply and demand, which is exactly what this is.

2005 sold poorly with a bit of a strange set, 2006 sold respectably with a really cool concept and 2007 sold very well with a homage to 2 things that really stood out, a continuation of the popular G1 classics line and updated molds for some hugely popular seekers, and besides it was in RI and the same year as the movie came out.

Listening to the fan reactions over this year's set and being that there's no movie out this year, how could they have possibvly figured they'd outsell the 2007 set?

And even so, as I said before, if you make too many it cheapens the value.

News Credits: 1 · by **vulgar_wraith** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:32 am

UltraPrimal wrote:I'm already confirmed for the Shattered Glass set, but what if I want to buy a Descent into Evil boxed set in addition? They mention that you can buy loose sets, but what about boxed sets? Are they saving them for the people who have not gotten Primus Packages yet?

I'm tempted to get them, but I'm afraid that if I do they'll screw up my registration and I'll end up with just the 05 set and nothing else. Just like last year how I got screwed out of the customizing class and Hasbro tour.

I been eying the Descent into evil set for a few weeks now and kept putting it off.I was going to wait till mid/end march to order one,but with things changing I went to the club store and ordered now before there gone too.Thats what I would recommend if you want one go to the store before they stop sales.