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Postby Malicron » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:27 am

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Durge344 wrote:I don't really like Optimus Primal.
I find him rather annoying...

Heathen! :-P
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Postby Sentinel Pax » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:58 am

After looking at Star Sabre's battle mode head, I have one question. Will the "bill" on his helmet be so pronounced? I absolutely love his alt mode, but the battle mode head bothered me a little bit.
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Postby Noise Maker » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:36 pm

Justicity wrote:Hrrrm, No RiD universe. Not only would that need some freak explanation, but also we're trying to keep this much like Beast Wars, Beast Machines & The Gathering, simple to understand, in dept character development, easy to draw (most important :P ), blah blah blah. So I have to agree with 'tron.

As for Predacons/Decepticons the time travel in Beast Wars has always been like in Dr Who, it's difficult to cross time paths. Yes Megatron does it with the sleeping G1 bots, but that can be explained by heavy influence from the Golden Disk. Yes The Preds go back to the Beast Wars in The Gathering, but this is also explained, & Magmatron makes precautions so as not to effect the past. The Transwarp technology was designed with limitation, so it would be improbable for one to go back & affect ones own past.
This is also a follow on from Beast Machines, meaning it is meant to be written as if cannon. Going back in time & effecting the Decepticons would compromise the continuity, & continuity is very important to the success of the comic & personally, I'm going to be putting a lot of effort into this comic, especially as this next year is Senior Year for me, so include this to my already hectic schedule of work, I have a lot to do. I'm not saying I don't want to do this, I asked to help because I really want to do something like this but I can't script serious stuff, I just don't want to do this without doing it properly. I really would like this to be a success & for it to boost my art status not only on the Internet but possibly professionally. I doubt Noise has though of this before but If this turns out really good we could get it published. I know someone who's got their own comic published, when we've finished, or got a good way through, I could ask him how he did it, possibly, you know... Don't take that the wrong way, I want to have fun making this, & I'm not in it with an intent to get it published or anything, It just occurred to me that this could be a serious boost, especially as College is coming up.

Sorry, I didn't realize how much I'd written there XD
My point is yes this is a comic for the fans, & yes there are A LOT of G1 fans who'd like to see the original Transformers cast in everything, but you can't have the same things every time. Hell I was very tempted to ask Noise to find a way to bring Optimus Primal back, just because I thought It'd be weird without him & any Beast Wars series should have him, but I stopped because that would really mess up the comic.

So to summarize, no more G1 characters, no time travel more than CybertronBeast Wars Earth, no fan pleaser's. If we do this solely to appeal to G1 & Beast Wars fanboys then we might as well just write a Beast Wars/G1 crossover & forget continuity. In fact I think we should get some more original characters.
I'd like to quickly suggest to Noise (underlined so he can see this) that after the big battle at the end of the earth part of the series we kill of some major characters, don't discuss it here, should keep it secret, but maybe get new followers for Magmatron, maybe a fatal disaster on the Maximal side? What you think? Then I could get a chance to design completely new characters, no prompts, apart from your suggestions of course! Yay! Lets discuss it in the next PM.


That's a very well written post. We'll discuss some of the things you said in a PM that I'll send to you soon.

One thing I will say here is that I really like the idea of OCs. So far, we only have one-and he's just like a new take on an already existing character.
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Postby Justicity » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:13 pm

Sentinel Pax wrote:After looking at Star Sabre's battle mode head, I have one question. Will the "bill" on his helmet be so pronounced? I absolutely love his alt mode, but the battle mode head bothered me a little bit.

Yes, I drew that way to big :P The day I drew Leo & Sabre I was nursing a massive head ache & my drawings were very off. I couldn't be bothered to redo the whole head so I just decided to leave it at that.

In response to Noise, wait, which ones the original XD I'm sorry my memory is slaged today & I don't remember who's the OC.
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Postby Sentinel Pax » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:45 pm

Justicity wrote:
Sentinel Pax wrote:After looking at Star Sabre's battle mode head, I have one question. Will the "bill" on his helmet be so pronounced? I absolutely love his alt mode, but the battle mode head bothered me a little bit.

Yes, I drew that way to big :P The day I drew Leo & Sabre I was nursing a massive head ache & my drawings were very off. I couldn't be bothered to redo the whole head so I just decided to leave it at that.

Ah, I see. Well, just so you know, even with a killer headache, your skills blow mine out of the water. Can't wait to see the first panels for this!
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Postby Justicity » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:51 pm

Sentinel Pax wrote:
Justicity wrote:
Sentinel Pax wrote:After looking at Star Sabre's battle mode head, I have one question. Will the "bill" on his helmet be so pronounced? I absolutely love his alt mode, but the battle mode head bothered me a little bit.

Yes, I drew that way to big :P The day I drew Leo & Sabre I was nursing a massive head ache & my drawings were very off. I couldn't be bothered to redo the whole head so I just decided to leave it at that.

Ah, I see. Well, just so you know, even with a killer headache, your skills blow mine out of the water. Can't wait to see the first panels for this!

That can't be true, :P
Thanks ^^ It's great to hear so many positive replies.
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Postby Noise Maker » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:22 am

Justicity wrote:
Sentinel Pax wrote:After looking at Star Sabre's battle mode head, I have one question. Will the "bill" on his helmet be so pronounced? I absolutely love his alt mode, but the battle mode head bothered me a little bit.

Yes, I drew that way to big :P The day I drew Leo & Sabre I was nursing a massive head ache & my drawings were very off. I couldn't be bothered to redo the whole head so I just decided to leave it at that.

In response to Noise, wait, which ones the original XD I'm sorry my memory is slaged today & I don't remember who's the OC.


Manterror. I just kind of always figured we'd give him an original name. :D
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Postby Justicity » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:35 pm

Noise Maker wrote:
Justicity wrote:
Sentinel Pax wrote:After looking at Star Sabre's battle mode head, I have one question. Will the "bill" on his helmet be so pronounced? I absolutely love his alt mode, but the battle mode head bothered me a little bit.

Yes, I drew that way to big :P The day I drew Leo & Sabre I was nursing a massive head ache & my drawings were very off. I couldn't be bothered to redo the whole head so I just decided to leave it at that.

In response to Noise, wait, which ones the original XD I'm sorry my memory is slaged today & I don't remember who's the OC.


Manterror. I just kind of always figured we'd give him an original name. :D

Of course XD
Forgot about him.
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Postby Justicity » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:21 am

Bumped so a friend can see XD
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Postby Durgey » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:36 am

Just a little question; Will Silverbolt's desighn in the comics be completely new? Will he have a new head, his awsome BW head or his incredibly ugly BM head?
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Postby Durgey » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:36 am

Durge344 wrote:Just a little question; Will Silverbolt's desighn in the comics be completely new? Will he have a new head, his awsome BW head or his incredibly ugly BM head?
BM head HAHAHAHAHA
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Postby Justicity » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:43 pm

Durge344 wrote:Just a little question; Will Silverbolt's desighn in the comics be completely new? Will he have a new head, his awsome BW head or his incredibly ugly BM head?

As shown in the design work on the first page His head will be his Beast Wars head, of course tweaked a little, & made a little less wolfy, but he will have a battle mask which he will wear most of the time on earth. I can really imagine a set of panels where he flicks his mask forward (It's forms from pieces on his shoulders & back) like Bumblebee does his battle mask in the movie.

Noise, If you read this make sure you remember to add this in during his first fight scene.
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Postby Durgey » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:25 pm

Justicity wrote:
Durge344 wrote:Just a little question; Will Silverbolt's desighn in the comics be completely new? Will he have a new head, his awsome BW head or his incredibly ugly BM head?

As shown in the design work on the first page His head will be his Beast Wars head, of course tweaked a little, & made a little less wolfy, but he will have a battle mask which he will wear most of the time on earth. I can really imagine a set of panels where he flicks his mask forward (It's forms from pieces on his shoulders & back) like Bumblebee does his battle mask in the movie.

Noise, If you read this make sure you remember to add this in during his first fight scene.
YAY NO UGLY BM HEAD (that's still funny)
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Postby Durgey » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:27 pm

about my Rampage Idea...
Are you gonna tell me more about what your up to with it. (as it is MY idea)
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Postby Justicity » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:00 pm

Durge344 wrote:about my Rampage Idea...
Are you gonna tell me more about what your up to with it. (as it is MY idea)

At the moment it's on the table for the future.
We're still only on the first pages of script, & I've had no time to even start drawing properly. I believe Rampage (Or a similar idea, maybe not by the same name as he died, don't know yet) will come in after the earth arc, as we plan to spend time on earth, then back on Cybertron, etc etc etc. Maybe, if he is Rampage resurrected, he can come back & latch onto the spaceship as they go back to Cybertron. When we get closer to writing that part we'll let you know & get you involved.
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Postby Durgey » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:04 am

Justicity wrote:
Durge344 wrote:about my Rampage Idea...
Are you gonna tell me more about what your up to with it. (as it is MY idea)

At the moment it's on the table for the future.
We're still only on the first pages of script, & I've had no time to even start drawing properly. I believe Rampage (Or a similar idea, maybe not by the same name as he died, don't know yet) will come in after the earth arc, as we plan to spend time on earth, then back on Cybertron, etc etc etc. Maybe, if he is Rampage resurrected, he can come back & latch onto the spaceship as they go back to Cybertron. When we get closer to writing that part we'll let you know & get you involved.

cool :DANCE:
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Postby Durgey » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:48 pm

Another note;
what do you suppose would be a good idea to kill off Rampage?
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Postby Justicity » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:13 pm

Durge344 wrote:Another note;
what do you suppose would be a good idea to kill off Rampage?

I've thought about that actually. I have no idea what will be happening in the Cybertron arc, no idea at all, but If & when Rampage comes in I think his death should either be something spectacular, maybe involving Primus, or something like dumping him on a far away planet, like the Maximals had planned. However I'd prefer not to talk about his end too much here as I don't want to spoil the end of his arc.
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Postby Durgey » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:17 pm

Justicity wrote:
Durge344 wrote:Another note;
what do you suppose would be a good idea to kill off Rampage?

I've thought about that actually. I have no idea what will be happening in the Cybertron arc, no idea at all, but If & when Rampage comes in I think his death should either be something spectacular, maybe involving Primus, or something like dumping him on a far away planet, like the Maximals had planned. However I'd prefer not to talk about his end too much here as I don't want to spoil the end of his arc.
yeah...
well if you want to keap it secret PM me!
I'm desighning and re-desighning Rampage for this comic, but as you said, it's still on the table so...
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Postby Malicron » Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:02 pm

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No offence to the writers, I know this kind of thing takes time, but…
When can we expect an update?
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Postby Noise Maker » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:48 am

Durge344-Yes, the idea is still on the table. I have a few ideas about how he can come an how he can die, but what he can really do still needs to be decided.

Whiner-tron-I don't know the answer; Justicity hasn't had time to draw, and I've had little time to write.

Justicity-The Silverbolt scene sounds cool. I'll make sure to add it.
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Postby Justicity » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:00 pm

Noise Maker wrote:Whiner-tron-I don't know the answer; Justicity hasn't had time to draw, and I've had little time to write.

I'm very sorry Whiner, I have had no time at all, not only have I just got settled into my second year of college but I've got some personal problems going on too so finding time to draw is really difficult, I can do sketches & I can do short bursts of work for Grim's project & Grim's army among other projects, but thats only because the work I do for it isn't at all intense & I can do it at the computer. I will have some time 'soon as I've got this first bit of college work out the way so I'm planning on doing an intense drawing session where I can finish a good portion of the first page. I promise it'll be worth the wait ^^
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Postby Malicron » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:21 pm

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There’s no need to apologies, I was just worried that this project had been forgotten.
If I came across as rude or annoying, I’m very sorry. :cry:
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Postby Justicity » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:52 am

Whiner-tron wrote:There’s no need to apologies, I was just worried that this project had been forgotten.
If I came across as rude or annoying, I’m very sorry. :cry:

Oh, no don't apologize. I was just explaining why it was so delayed, I wasn't annoyed or anything. Nah, it hasn't been forgotten, theres just lots of other stuff I've got to worry about. But fear not, it will come. :P
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Postby Noise Maker » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:26 am

Justicity wrote:
Whiner-tron wrote:There’s no need to apologies, I was just worried that this project had been forgotten.
If I came across as rude or annoying, I’m very sorry. :cry:

Oh, no don't apologize. I was just explaining why it was so delayed, I wasn't annoyed or anything. Nah, it hasn't been forgotten, theres just lots of other stuff I've got to worry about. But fear not, it will come. :P


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