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[Shadowman]

The others got their names from their toys (aside from slipstream, who has no toy of her), and the Liar has yet to recieve a figure of himself.

And they've all been named, again, aside from Slipsteam, after the Seeker they share at least a color scheme with. And they went out of they're way to give the Liar a cone head. They may not have announced his official name is Ramjet, but it's a safe assumption that it is his name.

[Rial Vestro]

The others got their names from their toys (aside from slipstream, who has no toy of her), and the Liar has yet to recieve a figure of himself.

And they've all been named, again, aside from Slipsteam, after the Seeker they share at least a color scheme with. And they went out of they're way to give the Liar a cone head. They may not have announced his official name is Ramjet, but it's a safe assumption that it is his name.

They allso went out of their way to give Sunstorm a new helmet which just looks like a bulkier version of the one he allready had.

At any rate, he's been Ramjet from the start just because of the color sceme.

The female seeker was the only one of them who was a brand new character as there was no female seeker before her and her color sceme came from a character who was not a seeker to begin with. Everyone else is offically just whatever seeker their color scemes came from.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The female seeker was the only one of them who was a brand new character as there was no female seeker before her and her color sceme came from a character who was not a seeker to begin with.

Thats up for debate.

I still find it too coincidental that the colors used resemble G2 Ramjet.

[Rodimus2006]

I told you guys that I had got emails in the past stating that animated is finished, canceled dead and buried.

But know one would believe me about it cause I didnt post up the proof of it.

So I guess now Know one will find out the whole truth about Sari Sumdac or all the other unanswered questions we are still looking for.

So also I was right once again stating that the new series will be new and diffrent nothing to do with animated.

But it will have some G1 refrences to the new show, also I suspect that the new show wont show up until 2010 when the new Kids Discovery channel becomes the new Hasbro Channel whatever they plan on calling the new channel.

Right now the channel is called Kids Discovery which is on channel 294 on Direct TV but nothing wont get going on the channel until 2010.

This is why they canceled animated cause they have something new in the works for the new channel what that is and what the name of the new show still remains a mystery.

I dont think anykind of announcement is going to be made at Botcon telling us what the new show will be.

So we will just have to wait until they give us the details on it through interviews and junk like that.

I knew it all along that animated was finished espically when animated s3 ended they way that is did.

I had this gut feeling during season 3 and I told everyone that I had a gut feeling that animated would be finished.

I cant wait to find out more about the next series.

I want the next series to be a little more mature,

be on Cybertron this time, also be in the beginning of time.

The new show wont have OP or Megatron cause it will be an origin story showing us the beginngs of the transformers and how they became the Autobots and Decipticons.


Transformers - Beginnings

Transformers - Legacies

Transformers - Origins


These are names I would call my show.

Also It would be cool to have a show like in the comics were OP and Megatron teamed up cause they found a new faction hidden on Cybertron and also they have to deal with corrupt politicans also as seen in Animated with the Elite Guard it could be done in a similar fashion.

Transformers - Universe

Transformers - 2010

Transformers - Cybertron Corruption

But I dont know and nothing will probably be known until the end of the year.

So I guess from now on it is re-runs of animated, the re-releases of G1, revenge at the movies and also revenge for the consoles also.

So all in all not to bad I guess just another long wait period to wait on the next show.

Like how it was when season 2 ended and we had to wait a whole year or so for season 3.

Same way with the new series on the new channel also.

[Sabrblade]

They may not have announced his official name is Ramjet, but it's a safe assumption that it is his name.

It's an assumption, yes.

But it's not a confirmation.

[Nico]

I hate to break people bubble, but I highly doubt it will be anything more "mature". I think they are waiting for a japaneese show to export.

However, I HOPE im wrong.

[Sabrblade]

I hate to break people bubble, but I highly doubt it will be anything more "mature". I think they are waiting for a japaneese show to export.

However, I HOPE im wrong.

You most likely are.

What would the Japanese have to do with Discovery?

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

What would the Japanese have to do with Discovery?

sushi

[Rial Vestro]

The female seeker was the only one of them who was a brand new character as there was no female seeker before her and her color sceme came from a character who was not a seeker to begin with.

Thats up for debate.

I still find it too coincidental that the colors used resemble G2 Ramjet.

Were not around a few pages back? One of the shows wrighters allready said that her color scheme was based on G1 Overload. Exactly why they would use Overload I don't know but apperently she has Overload's colors and is named Slipstream.

Liar Clone allways was, allways will be, and is Ramjet. The female Starscream is not Ramjet and has absolutly nothing to do with Ramjet.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Were not around a few pages back? One of the shows wrighters allready said that her color scheme was based on G1 Overload.

Yeah I'm aware of what he said but I dont exactly believe it.

The Female Starscream shares most of her colors with both Overlord and the G2 Ramjet.

But the fact that shes a seeker make me lean twards the G2 Ramjest aspect of the debate.

Exactly why they would use Overload I don't know but apperently she has Overload's colors and is named Slipstream.

They claim they used Overlord because part [powermaster] of Overlord was a female.

[Shadowman]

I told you guys that I had got emails in the past stating that animated is finished, canceled dead and buried.

But know one would believe me about it cause I didnt post up the proof of it.

And you know what else? How do we know it wasn't just a lucky guess?

So I guess now Know one will find out the whole truth about Sari Sumdac or all the other unanswered questions we are still looking for.

Sari was a protoform on board the Nemesis who ended up transwarping to Earth somehow. Considering how random TransWarp can be, and the damage to the ship, it's not too difficult.

As for the rest, they've ended the Traitor story, they ended the Blackarachnia story, they've caught every major Decepticon outside of Lockdown, the Arcee storyline has ended, Omega Supreme is back in one spot, what more do you want? What's left?

[Nico]

I hate to break people bubble, but I highly doubt it will be anything more "mature". I think they are waiting for a japaneese show to export.

However, I HOPE im wrong.

You most liely are.

What would the Japanese have to do with Discovery?

I don't know!

All im saying is that it took awhile for Hasbro to make a show after G1. Not counting Beast Machine (it never happen, or so I heard), its been around ten year since we had a US-made Transformers cartoon.

Following this logic, its going to be awhile until Hasbro make another show. BUT, I could be wrong. Right there are no show in Japan, so it could mean they are making another show.

However, despite its rather "kiddy" approach, Animated could have been worst. I mean, seriously. You guys all want something more mature, but since Hasbro want to attract all the kiddies, here are an idea that will make people regret Beast Machine!!!

Sam and theTransformers: An educative show about Sam witwicky and how he learns important life lessons from puppet Transformers.

[Rial Vestro]

Not completly Animated related but funny as hell. http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Bee_in_the_City

I started laughing my head off as I was reading through the quotes. My favorites being...

Dr. Sumdac "Anyway I have brought you here to day to witness our newest invention: the Bi-directional Unified Transit Terminal."
Sari "The BU-, dad? You've really gotta work on your acronyms."
Bumblebee "So, what does your BUTT do?"
Dr. Sumdac "Truly amazing things I can tell you!"


—Dr. Sumdac's newest invention could give the FARTS a run for its money

Dr. Sumdac "You see, I am certain you are all eager to return to your home world of Cybertron."
Optimus "Not really, no."
Dr. Sumdac "Yet you are needed here, greatly. So we have devoted our resources to a matter transference device that puts a crack in space"
Bumblebee "Wow! Your BUTT can carry all of us home?"
Dr. Sumdac " I am almost totally certain it can"
Optimus "Well, this will certainly get to the bottom of our transportation problem"
Sari "What did I tell ya? My dad's no bum"
Dr. Sumdac "Oh Sari, you are always so cheeky."
Bumblebee "Ohhhh, it my turn for a pun! Uh..."
Optimus "Skip it Bumblebee, we're getting behind"

—More throwaway BUTT jokes. It never ends!!!!

Would anyone like to travel to Cybertron via Issac Sumdac's BUTT?

Narrator:"Meanwhile in the lab of the Morally-ambiguous TransTech Shockwave"
Sari:"Morally-ambiguous? He's got us chained to tables and is about to take us apart like a bad science experiment!"
Shockwave:"Begin proactive maintenance log: Subject A, adolescent human female, has regained consciousness and has demonstrated both an awareness of the narrator and an utter disregard for the fourth wall."


—Shockwave records his observations.

Horray for breaking the 4th wall!

You know given the highly cartoonish animation styal of Animated I'm surprised they never did this in the cartoon. It seems like exactly the kind of show that would break the 4th wall.

[Nico]

You know given the highly cartoonish animation styal of Animated I'm surprised they never did this in the cartoon. It seems like exactly the kind of show that would break the 4th wall.

Thats what I like. It took itself seriously! ...somehow! Atleast it was more serious than cartoon these days.

[Shadowman]

Oh yeah, Bee in the City? Try to find the live reading of it, I think from BotCon one year. David Kaye is both Prime AND Megatron. Yessss...

[Rial Vestro]

As for the rest, they've ended the Traitor story, they ended the Blackarachnia story, they've caught every major Decepticon outside of Lockdown, the Arcee storyline has ended, Omega Supreme is back in one spot, what more do you want? What's left?

Not so, Blackarachnia and Waspinator were last seen on some island still fully functinal allthough Waspinator was not in one piece.

Lockdown is not the only Decepticon still around. The members of team Charr lead by Strika were never captured as far as we know. They could still be on the astroid waiting for Megatron's orders to invade Cybertron as they were last seen doing.

Likewise, there's still a chance of Soundwave being rebuilt AGAIN. In seems as long as that little G1 Tape Recorder fan nod still exsists than Soundwave still exsists.

Swindle allso exscaped after Decepticon Air allthough you might not being counting him sence he's little more than a salesman.

The Constructicons are all still POSSIBLY alive assumeing that Jazz and Prowl weren't able to gather their AllSpark fragments.

And only 2 of the Starscream clones have been captured, Sunstorm and Ramjet. Thundercracker and Skywarp haven't been seen sence they exscaped from the giant cement glob they were stuck in with Blurr. Thundercracker chaced after Blurr for a while but wasn't fast enough to keep up. Skywarp being the coward didn't do much of anything that whole episode, I don't think he even had a line I just know he had to of been there sence he was stuck with them at the end of season 2. Slipstream may allso still be around.

Now in the case of the Starscream Clones even if you assume that their fragments weren't gathered there's allso the possibility of them not being able to function without the original Starscream being online and he is one we know is no longer functional. But there's no way to tell for sure weather or not any of Starscream clones are still online or if they're not if the reason is because they no longer have their AllSpark fragments or because they themselfs are only fragments of Starscream's personality and Starscream is no longer online.

I allso propose another idea that without Starscream maybe the clones could actully be able to gain true sentiance and be more than just fragments of his personality, hopefully adopting personalitys more attune to their G1 counterparts.

At any rate there are a total of 25 Decepticons in Animated. Only one of them we know for sure is dead. 6 we know have been captured. And that leaves 18 Decepticons unaccounted for.

Megatron Captured
Shockwave / Longarm Prime Captured
Starscream Dead
Blitzwing Captured
Lugnut Captured
Skywarp Free/Possibly Dead/Unconfirmed
Thundercracker Free/Possibly Dead/Unconfirmed
Sunstorm Captured and Possible Dead
Liar Starscream Captured and Possibly Dead
Slipstream Free/Possibly Dead/Unconfirmed
Dirt Boss Free/Possibly Dead/Unconfirmed
Scrapper Free/Possibly Dead/Unconfirmed
Mixmaster Free/Possibly Dead/Unconfirmed
Strika Free
Blackout Free
Cyclonus Free
Oil Slick Free
Spittor Free
Elita-1 / Blackarachnia Free
Wasp / Waspinator Free/"Has Plans"
Lockdown Free
Soundwave Can be reconstructed
Laserbeak Free
Ratbat Unconfirmed
Swindle Free

[Sabrblade]

Ratbat Unconfirmed

Ratbat's dead.

We saw him get ripped to shreds when Prime destroyed Soundwave's body with Laserbeak.

[TulioDude]

On the 2005 Boards they claim it was said at the convention that Animated is done and over.

Transformers Animated is over--FINISHED!! *cough* Furmanism *cough*

In the spark of an enemy, there will be salvation, and in the darkest hour, there will be a light.

You said it all.YOU GOT THE TOUCH!.Sorry

Hope at least they finish the story line.

Isnt Hasbro gonna need a series after the movie?

[Sabrblade]

Isnt Hasbro gonna need a series after the movie?

It's the thing with Discovery Channel.

[Rodimus2006]

You know what I am ok with animated being canceled it really didnt suprise me any about the announcement cause I knew about it before the Botcon Annoucement anyways.

What bothers me is another long wait peroid waiting another year or so before the new show will be on the new Hasbro/Discovery Channel.

Umm you people are confused it is not the Discover channel that is getting changed it is the Kids Discovery Channel that is getting re-done.

The normal Discovery channel will remain intact and unchanged but the Kids-Discovery channel will be re-done sort of how Sci-fi is becoming Scy-Fy also changing around abit also.

Sort of how they changed the one Disney Channel into Disney XD which all they done was changed the Jetex name and renamed it XD.

This will be similar on how they will change Kids into the new Hasbro Channel whatever they decide to call the new channel.

On Direct TV it is on channel 294 but I dont know what it is on Dish Network cause I have Direct TV.

Well really I am ok with the waiting cause it isnt like there no anything to watch to keep us busy during the long wait peroid.

The Venture Bros. Season 4 is coming back on sometime in Fall/Winter 09, also rumors of one of them getting a spin-off show sort of how they are doing it with the new Clevand Show last I heard it is going to be about Brock Samson.

Also new seasons of Star Wars, The Family Guy and the Simpsons however King of the Hill, Terminator, and Knight Rider have been canceled.

Also another season of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 is coming out probably at the end of the year.


Also alot to keep busy with all the new games depending on what you play and what systems you own.

I have a 360, Wii, DS, PSP and PS2 also some kick-ass games coming out were I am not even going to care about transformers for awhile.

Mass Effect 2
Dragon Age - Origins
Metal Gear Solid 4 for the 360
Tekken 6
WWE Smackdown 2010
Mana Khemia 2
Shin Megami Tensei - Devil Survivor
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Phantasy Star Zero
Persona
Lunar Silver Star Story
Resident Evil - Dark Side Chronicles
The Metroid Prime Trilogy
Alpha Protocol
Sakura Wars-So Long My Love
Star Wars - Republic Heroes
Dragon Ball - Raging Blast
Magna Carta 2


Also we have the upoming re-releases of G1 sets and maybe Hasbro will make some more Ultimate Sets.

I hope when the new Hasbro channel comes out we can finally get to watch Transformers RID maybe they bought the rights finally and it will be shown on the new channel as they did state they would be showing a wide range of transformers shows.

Also I wonder if they plan on localizing some we have never seen in the US such as Headmasters, Victory and Beast Wars Neo.

How come no one ever asks any kinds of questions for the Botcon Panel about their upcoming DVD projects or if they plan on localizing them.

Why is it just questions about the toys or comics I mean I do like the stuff but I wanna know more about the DVD Front more than I do about the toys and comics.

Come on people where is my Transformers RID Ultimate Set get it together HASBRO and buy the friggin rights from the idiots that are never going to do anything with it.

It has been locked in a vault since it last aired on Fox Kids almost 10 to 12 years sitting there collecting dust.

I mean yeah it wasnt a great series but I still wanna see again and I also need it cause I collect the series.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Umm you people are confused it is not the Discover channel that is getting changed it is the Kids Discovery Channel that is getting re-done.

Umm...I think you need to learn how to read.

No one called it the "Discover channel".

What would the Japanese have to do with Discovery?

It's the thing with Discovery Channel.

As you can see the word Discovery was used in both cases.

[Rodimus2006]

Excuse me for leaving out the y in the Discovery Channels name I forgot we arent all perfect like you seem to be.

I was just making a point that they are 2 Discovery channels one that is for the kids and one that is for Grown-Ups which shows the graphic sugery shows and other stuff on it.

The normal Discovery Channel will be left intact while the Kids-Discovery Channel will be re-worked into something new with a new line-up that includes the Hasbro Library from Transformers to GI Joe.

Also it will be another long waiting period for something to be said or announced about when the next series will be on or rather what channel it will be on the new Hasbro Channel or will it remain on CN like it has been.

Also be awhile until we learn about the new show such as plot details and additional info about what characters will be in it and were it will be taking place such as the future or in the past, will it be in space somewhere or either on Earth or on Cybertron or someplace we have never seen transformers before.

Also curious as how they will design the next series also will they go back to the way Cybertron and others were made or will they stick to the Animated style since the Hasbro channel is geared toward young kids 14 down.

So I guess there goes my hopes for a more mature transformers no way that is going to happen now it is on Hasbro now.

Curious as to what the name of the next show will be called also and if it will still cantian the human element or will it just be transformers this time only.

I have an idea instead of a human finding out she is really a protoform this time make it were a human finds out he is really a robot.

They have lived there whole life thinking he/she is a real human but then as the show goes on they found out he has been a robot protoform sort of similar how it was done with Sari but with a new twist.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Excuse me for leaving out the y in the Discovery Channels name I forgot we arent all perfect like you seem to be.

Dont try to turn this on me.

You came in here telling others they were confused or wrong while it was you that was useing the wrong word.

Before you go around trying to correct others you should make sure your correct yourself.

[Sabrblade]

Not trying to further heat up this little conflict, but it's not the "Kids-Discovery Channel", but rather just "Discovery Kids".

[Rodimus2006]

Ok so now another long wait period before the next series will be announced or seen.

They wont show it until next year sometime when they get the new channel ready for TV.

I am just curious about what kind of direction will the new show be done in not only story wise but also the looks or rather the art direction of the series.

Will it be in the Past, Future or Present, will humans be a part of it or will it just be about the bots this time.

How many characters will be on both teams also will newer character never seen before be shown.

Also when can we expect some announcments for the next show maybe sometime later this year.

At least give us the name of the show and some tidbits about the story plots and news on the main characters of the new show.

Also I am wondering if they will make a new GI Joe series for the new channel or if they will show GI Hoe - Resollute but since that show is more viloentier and geared towards adults I dont think so.


So another long wait before anything is shown seen or announced.

I am ok with it plenty to keep me busy until now and then anyways between my games collecting dvd's and my anime's and waiting for some new TV shows such as Stargate - Universe and Venture Bros. Season 4.

Dragon Age Origins, Tekken 6, Alpha Protocol and ME 2 I dont have time for transformers right now.

But I am still getting my collections of G1 and going to see Revenge this month.