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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:43 pm

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I was joking. :wink:

Saber Prime wrote:Wheeljack's head looks exactly like his G1 head only miss-shapen do to the animation.


I think you mean art style, considering there's no animation in that still picture.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:49 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:What's the picture of Homer Simpson there for?


he's a good guy with a big head. i mean its proportunally huge.

i didn't see the word scientists when i read the other post the first time
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:00 pm

Name_Violation wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:What's the picture of Homer Simpson there for?


he's a good guy with a big head. i mean its proportunally huge.

i didn't see the word scientists when i read the other post the first time


Na, Hommer's head isn't big, it's perfectly proportionate for the size of his body. Now if he was a little skinny guy and his head was still that big, that'd be a different story. :wink:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:21 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:What's the picture of Homer Simpson there for?


he's a good guy with a big head. i mean its proportunally huge.

i didn't see the word scientists when i read the other post the first time


top of head to bottom of chin is not proportunate to human size. its between 1/3 and 1/4 his body height. those are freakish proportunes
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:28 pm

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To me, Perceptor looks more like a "nerd" instead of a "mad scientist". Not just because of his head size, but that and because his face looks rather "geeky".

Which is good, considering that this is Perceptor, one the smartest, most brilliant of all Autobots.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:29 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:To me, Perceptor looks more like a "nerd" instead of a "mad scientist". Not just because of his head size, but that and because his face looks rather "geeky".

Which is good, considering that this is Perceptor, one the smartest, most brilliant of all Autobots.

yeah, defimately a nerd :-B
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:41 pm

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Also supporting the nerd look if you look closer he is wearing apair of nerdy glasses also.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:41 pm

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Yeah, and his head look s more like a brown beehive. 8-}
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:06 pm

Name_Violation wrote:
Name_Violation wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:What's the picture of Homer Simpson there for?


he's a good guy with a big head. i mean its proportunally huge.

i didn't see the word scientists when i read the other post the first time


top of head to bottom of chin is not proportunate to human size. its between 1/3 and 1/4 his body height. those are freakish proportunes


Sounds like you're trying to apply real life proportions to a cartoon insted of useing average proportions for his own universe.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:13 pm

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in comparison to he rest of the cast he still has a bigger head except for sideshow bob and possibly frink. proportunally his is still biggest except for maybe bob and kerny

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:56 pm

Name_Violation wrote:in comparison to he rest of the cast he still has a bigger head except for sideshow bob and possibly frink. proportunally his is still biggest except for maybe bob and kerny

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Bob is hard to judge. His hair is definatly huge but is his head actully too big or does the hair just make it appear bigger?

Mr. Burns, now he has a big head.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:36 pm

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from vegiraziel
I have a question in regards to the design of the characters. I would like to know why some characters seem to be so reminiscent of their G1 counterparts while others seem so much different aside from certain distinctive details. Ratchet is one that comes to mind as being so different, while I see Starscream as a character that keeps, baring the obvious art style and vehicle mode diffeences, a very similar design to his G1 counterpart.


DJW: Usually it boils down to how precious the characters are to me, and how much I like the design of the originals. The more I like a character, the more aspects I will try to retain in redesigning it. That's probably why the Decepticons retain even more of a classic feel than the Autobots. Ratchet is a little bit of a different case. He was originally planned to be called Red Alert in the show, so there are various design cues taken from previous Red Alert incarnations. I remember especially liking the Binaltech Red Alert package art. So while the Animated version of this character's personality and design remained the same, he eventually took the name Ratchet instead of Red Alert because most of us in the CN crew identified much more with the name Ratchet.

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Mr. Wyatt, something I've always wondered is what the timeline/turnaround time is for completing an episode? What are the stages that it goes through before being ready to go on the air?


DJW: The turn around time for each episode is generally around six months or more. All episodes go through the stages of pre-production, which begin with writing and design, dialog recording, then story boarding, and color. Once the pre-production materials are complete they are shipped to Japan for animation. Once the animation comes back from overseas, post-production begins. This involves retakes, editing, music, sound fx design and sound mixing.

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Second, given the GaoGaiGar influence in Jetfire and Jetstorm, are there any other non-Transformer Japanese robot shows that you're fond of that we may see referenced in the future? (I remember seeing a number of toys on your desk in your pictures on your blog...)


DJW: I would consider anything from Takara to be fair game, though any of these homages would probably not be quite as "in your face" as the normal Transformers homages. The GGG influence in Jetfire and Jetstorm probably comes straight from Takara! Eric Siebenaler had been working with the Takara engineers on the twins for quite some time. So the engineering of these characters had been worked out before I got my hands on them. Once Eric passed off his ideas to me, I added the bits like the head details, the Beast Machines Jetstorm homage elements and the color.

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Seeing as how you mentioned being fond of certain Japanese characters, like Dai Atlas, Deathsaurus, and Grandus, I'm curious as to your opinions of the various Japanese-only TF shows (Headmasters through BW Neo if it's not too much trouble.) On a related note, I'm also curious if you're a fan of the Brave series.


DJW: I got the UK edition Takara Transformers box set a couple years ago, and I have watched a bunch of episodes from the different series, but I've never had the time to sit down and watch any of the series completely from start to finish. I really think that they have some of the coolest characters and concepts in of all of Transformers history. Although at times the story and the characters' personalities can sometimes get kind of bland.

I have only seen two episodes of Gao Gai Gar. I will tell you that I pretty much spent the entire time watching them with my jaw dropped. Probably some of (and maybe THE) coolest transforming animation ever. I need to see more, but I would definitely say that seeing what I have, and seeing the designs, I am a fan. Captain Shark is one of the coolest robot designs ever.

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"Why did they end up designing Prowl and Jazz as Ninjas"?


DJW: Prowl was characterized as being a ninja before I ever started working on Transformers Animated. I never really questioned the reason behind it, or who's idea it was. It was Marty Isenberg's idea to make Jazz sort of the "Elite" version of Prowl, which just really seemed to fit his character.

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Can you tell us a funny story about your work - perhaps interacting with colleagues, a funny mistake, etc?


DJW: Well, we work with famous actors all the time, but it was really funny how star struck we all were when "Weird Al" came in to record the voice of Wreck-Gar. Tom Kenny (who wasn't even scheduled to be in that show) came in just so his son could meet Al. It was pretty cool ( and a little funny) to see even our normal actors get a little geeked out over him comin in.

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Which is your favorite TFA toy? I know you have tons, but there has to be one you play around with more than the others. XD


DJW: Swindle is totally my favorite TFA toy! He was always my favorite Transfomer from when I was a kid. His classic G1 toy was always a little disappointing to me because he was so different from the G1 cartoon (although they did get the big purple eyes right on the toy, and that is the most important part!). So, I'm super happy to finally have a really dead on show accurate Swindle toy.

from an anonymous user
When designing a Robot character for the show, are all of the abillities for the character planned up front, or is there space left open for unplaned abillities to be added later that might be needed later for a given story? (for example, Bulkhead has his wrecking balls but we've never seen the saw blades that the Leader class toy has, so we would have to assume he has them but they haven't been shown yet in a story.)


DJW: After we choose a new character to be in the show, I usually start doing some sketches of the new Transformer while Marty Isenberg figures out what kind of personallity and powers the new bot will have. Marty and I will work with our supervising producer, Matt Youngberg and Eric Siebenaler at Hasbro until we are all happy with the look, personality and powers of the character.

It was Eric's idea to put all the extra weaponry on the Leader Bulkhead toy. Eric's thought was that the additional armament would represent upgrades the Headmaster had added to Bulkhead's body to make him more dangerous when Headmaster had control of him. Bulkhead himself doesn't have any of those weapons in the show. Even if the Headmaster had added that stuff on in the show, I'm sure Bulkhead would have removed it after he got his body back.

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Could you please tell us a little bit about how an episode comes to be, ie do you and your team brainstorm ideas, then work up some sketches, then vote and work the most popular idea? Or does everyone get to contribute an idea and the team works them up in turn? I am more interested in the creative approach to such wonderful work in general rather than specifically. Thank you for your time.


DJW: It's kind of different each time. Eric and I will start doing sketches of characters we want to see in a new season, everyone has some ideas of stories they want to see. Marty has tons of story ideas and comes up with an overall story arc and wrangles everyone's varrious ideas into 13 episodes. Then Marty, Matt and I will usually meet with each of the episodes' individual writers. Everyone contributes ideas, but most of the biggest (and best) ones that really drive the plot forward come from Marty.

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My question is how you came to the unusual design of TFA Optimus? For once, his colour scheme is an odd mix of clashing colours and clear area separation (blue helmet, mostly red torso, blue hands, silber legs, blue feet). And then there is his face: While most most bots have grey faces, he is one of the very few having a different coloured one (not to forget the black markings around his optics). And how did you come to having him as the only one such pouty, visible lips?


DJW: I don't consider Optimus' colors to be unusual or clashing at all. They are very classic super hero colors, and colors that Optimus Prime has always had. The blue face comes from Beast Wars Optimus Primal, and the lips were inspired by Primal's from Beast Machines. Since our Optimus Prime was going to be an inexperienced novice leader, I wanted to infuse some of Primal's design into him.

from bean_bunny
Also, what side of Starscream does Girlscream represent?


DJW: I try not to think about that one!

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Is there a chance we might get to learn more about Prowl; who he is, and where he comes from, or get some more focus on him? (Note from Raz - so many people asked this, I decided to condense them all into one question)


DJW: Well, I hate to be so vague, but I really don't want to give specific plot points away. All I can say is that more characters will have their history explored in season 3.

from an anonymous user
Also, was the Samurai Armored Prowl planned as a toy first, or was the toy based on the episode?


DJW: The episode came first. Hasbro wasn't even going to make a toy at first, but I think they liked the episode so much that they went ahead and made it.

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Derrick, with the TFA UK comic character who was previously named "Sideswipe" renamed as "Afterburner," is there still a chance that a new version of Sideswipe or the entire Sunnyside duo (I believe this refers to Sunstreaker) could appear in a future episode of TFA?


DJW: It would be possible in theory. The UK comic wouldn't have any kind of creative restraint on us. We could even have our own version of Afterburn if we really wanted to.

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So many people asked questions about season 3, so I decided to condense them all, as I know there are certain things you need to keep a tight lip about. Can you give us any insight about what to expect that's within the bounds of what you're allowed to say? Maybe something you can reveal to us for the first time? If not, we all totally understand.


DJW: Season 3 is the most ambitious undertaking yet on Transformers Animated. I'm sure many of you have seen the new designs that have been coming out of the internet woodwork. There is a lot going on. Optimus is continuing to grow into his place as leader. The mystery of Sari and her story continues. We get to see some of how the military Elite Guard interacts with the civilian Autobot High Council. We will have new characters, and old favorites will return. And just what is Megatron going to do stuck in outter space with the head of the bot he dispises most?! Tune in and find out!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:36 am

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:08 am

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still didnt reveal to much about animated except about what goes into the process of making the show and how long it takes to prcoess it.

Provides proof on my theory that Animated seasons take ll to 13 months to complete.


Voice Recording, Art Sketching, FX Art, From art to to tv style, so on and so fourth so no wonder Animated isnt coming out till Summer.

Also cool that they get ideas from Anime's that I have watched such as GaoGaiGar.

But other than that they totally advoided any questions about season 3's plot or characters and basically just talked about the same thing over & over.

But did reveal we will see the Autobot High Council, more on Sari's orgins and more on Optimus Prime. So I am guessing more Flash-Back Episodes and more episodes on Cybertron itself finally.


So no really important info revealed such as a timeline for a TV airdate or anything like that but hey they are always next time.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:21 pm

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Several new Animated stuff.

First, Deluxe Ratchet in new packaging:
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Next, two new toys: Voyager Golfire Grimlock, and Voyager Hydrodive Bumblebee.

Plus, Perceptor's altmodes: Robot Mode, Vehicle Mode, and 'Microscope Mode'.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:09 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:51 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Plus, Perceptor's altmodes: Robot Mode, Vehicle Mode, and 'Microscope Mode'.


Holy crap, those really are glasses. I just thought he had a yellow visor with eyebrows or something.

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:47 pm

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Or how about John Cleese as Perceptor?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:55 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Or how about John Cleese as Perceptor?

No I never want him to be a scientist again!
Plus he already has a cartoon version of himself!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Venomous Prime » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:55 pm

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I wouldn't like John Cleese as Perceptor, I don't like his voice at all :lol:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:14 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Or how about John Cleese as Perceptor?

i'd prefer if cleese wasn't in this. I love him in the holy grail, but I don't see perceptor using the a witch weighs as much as a duck logic.

How about steven Hawkins :P the robo voice would be awesome :P

no seriously, it should be someone dull and humorless.A monotone voice is needed imho
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:21 pm

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Well, i thought of him because he's been Q in some of the 007 films.

And that duck in that clip sounds more like Eric Idle.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:44 pm

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Name_Violation wrote:How about steven Hawkins :P the robo voice would be awesome :P

no seriously, it should be someone dull and humorless.A monotone voice is needed imho


Stephen Hawking has a sense of humor. After the Onion wrote about his "plot" to take over and destroy the Earth, he actually wrote in, criticizing them for revealing his evil plans.
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Name_Violation wrote:How about steven Hawkins :P the robo voice would be awesome :P

We need someone else, it should be someone dull and humorless.A monotone voice is needed imho


Stephen Hawking has a sense of humor. After the Onion wrote about his "plot" to take over and destroy the Earth, he actually wrote in, criticizing them for revealing his evil plans.

i wasn't trying to imply he didnt.

i was trying to say we need someone else with a monotone, humorless voice, or one of those dry unintentional humor voices
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:00 pm

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Name_Violation wrote:i was trying to say we need someone else with a monotone, humorless voice, or one of those dry unintentional humor voices

The definition of that would be: Ben Stein.
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