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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat May 23, 2009 12:10 am

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Sorry I misunderstood you I though you was talking about Animated getting some sort of movie deal.

What idiot on earth dosent know about Revenge.

You gotta be leaving in a closet or under a rock if you dont know about revenge.

I thought you meant that Animated might be getting some sort of dvd deal to close up the unanswered questions.

But like I said nothing will be known until Botcon.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sat May 23, 2009 12:24 am

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Rodimus2006 wrote:What idiot on earth dosent know about Revenge.

You gotta be leaving in a closet or under a rock if you dont know about revenge.


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Nope. You wanted to know what coming out after Animated, and I told you exactly what's coming out after Animated.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rial Vestro » Sat May 23, 2009 3:20 am

I've been preddy quick about posting right after watching the new episodes for the last few weeks but, I'm back at work as of last Friday. I actully had last Saturday off which is why I was still able to watch it early but this week I really need to get to bed, I have 2 shows of "Sisters of Swing" to work backstage for and I probly won't get to watch the new episode till after 9 pm Pacific.

I don't know if anyone's even noticed that but just in case anyone has I thought I'd let you know why I probly won't be posting right after the show airs.

On the other side, if I do end up posting again at 6 am I'll probly end up sleeping between shows tomarrow, or worse yet DURRING the show. Lets hope that doesn't happen.

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Ok so I didn't get any sleep and I ended up watching Transformers Animated anyway.

I just have to say, after a whole season of wandering where Sari's protoform came from the big revieal on that wasn't verry big.

The huge battle between Optimus and Megatron, GREAT.

Sentinal Prime, jerk till the verry end, even when he doesn't have any lines he's a jerk.

And now the season ends with many verry disturbing unanswered questions.

When they gathered the AllSpark fragments they managed to retrieve the fragment keeping Starscream alive which left me wanding about the other characters who were brought to life by AllSpark fragments.

What ever happened to Blackarachnia, Waspinator, Soundwave, the Dinobots and any other characters I may be forgetting who they've hinted could end up returning. (Not counting the before mentioned AllSpark powered characters)

Is Sari going to move to Cybertron with her dad now that she knows where she came from or are the Autobots going to return to Earth?

Is Optimus Prime the new Magnus or is Ultra Magnus ever comming back online?

I suspect this was the end for Transformers Animated refering to the title but I don't think it's the end of the continuity. Hopefully they'll just have a new series picking up from where Animated left off but with a different title and maybe, just maybe it'll take place primarily on Cybertron.

It allso looked like at the end they managed to recover a few protoforms so I'm allso wandering if they'll be activated.

I could just picture a new series starting with Sentinal yelling at Optimus despite him being the big hero then maybe Sentinal helping Megatron exscape, framing Optimus, and planning to recapture Megatron so he can get the glory but failing.

There's just so many loose ends and I can allready picture a whole new series spawning from this that they can't end it with this. It'll hopefully just be like the end of Beast Wars, end of the series but not the continuity. It'll just be returning with a different title... I hope.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby mitchsantona » Sat May 23, 2009 7:50 am

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Just watched End Game 2.

I have a couple questions.

After Starscream bit it why were the Omega Clones still online?
What was Sari's purpose?
Where did Optimus get the Matrix at the end?

Seemed a bit rushed, and maybe they could have cut out the stock Animation sequences and a little more mourning and/or celebrating.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rial Vestro » Sat May 23, 2009 8:20 am

mitchsantona wrote:After Starscream bit it why were the Omega Clones still online?

Starscream wasn't controlling them, after Lugnut lost his conection to them it simply activated the time bombs and an automated message that Starscream built into them.

What was Sari's purpose?

Whatever the purpose was for makeing the protoforms in the first place allthough I guess she really has no purpose now sence they intended on useing them as weapons in the war which ended centuries earlyer.

Where did Optimus get the Matrix at the end?

I didn't even notice the Matrix at first. Had to rewatch that scene. I noticed he had a chain around his neck (which reminds me of G1 Galvatron) but I don't think it's actully the Matrix sence in this series the Magnus Hammer is the Matrix. I think it's actully just a medal of honor that was awarded to him for capturing Megatron. Allthough that wouldn't really exsplain why he had it as he was comming off Omega Supreme unless Jazz gave him the award, being a member of the Elite Guard still Jazz could of done it.

I allso want to know how he teliported at the end and how did Megatron survive that blast?

How many times in this series has someone unexsplicably returned to the series after being killed off camera moments earlier leaveing us wanding how they survived? Starscream was the first to do this when we saw him flying into the sun and then somehow ended up on the moon.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby mitchsantona » Sat May 23, 2009 9:17 am

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A little off topic but is she officially dubbed Femmescream? Isn't that what OP called her?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat May 23, 2009 9:18 am

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Actually, he called her "Starscream's fembot clone". Not much of a name, really.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby mitchsantona » Sat May 23, 2009 9:21 am

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Wonder if she's dead anyway from Prowl and Jazz using P over M.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Sat May 23, 2009 10:08 am

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What was up with that ending? The build up was so intense and really enjoyable, but it fell so flat.

No hinting at a get out of jail scheme from Megatron or one of his cohorts that are still out there? Bleh!

Not even a little concession speech from Sentinel Prime or a congratulations from Ultra Magnus fresh off spark support? So lame.

"They're back! Yay!" *Roll Credits*

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby moribundboggs » Sat May 23, 2009 10:42 am

This just left me feeling empty and sad. I feel I am going to have to act out an appropriate ending with my figures and some creative paper cut outs. Give Prowls death some emotion and meaning.

*edit* None of that will happen, just a fun thought. Though, I do love the idea of the group gathered round as Jazz gives Prowl a holo-bust, or some sort of memorial, in the cyber dojo.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Marcdachamp » Sat May 23, 2009 11:01 am

We really, really need another season. Excellent end if this really is it, but there is a lot of ground to cover.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Chaoslock » Sat May 23, 2009 11:07 am

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So, are the Starscream-clones, the constructicons, and Weird Al dead now???? :-(

I want another 10 seasons of this!!!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sat May 23, 2009 11:28 am

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Chaoslock wrote:So, are the Starscream-clones, the constructicons, and Weird Al dead now???? :-(

I want another 10 seasons of this!!!


If it killed Starsream, it stands to reason that they died too.

So, if there's another season, Jazz will replace Prowl, and Arcee will join Optimus's team. And something would have to happen to Omega Supreme to make sure every episode doesn't end with "Omega smashes bad guy, Autobots win."

EDIT: Also, Optimus had the Matrix, and it was chained around his neck like Galvatron.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Sat May 23, 2009 11:39 am

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So assuming everyone with an all-spark fragment is dead, Black Arachnia and Waspnator are the only unresolved endings. and Sari's origin.

anything else?

Were the clones on the ship too far to be effected? was dinobot island too far to effect the dinobots?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Sat May 23, 2009 11:43 am

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Chaoslock wrote:So, are the Starscream-clones, the constructicons, and Weird Al dead now???? :-(

I want another 10 seasons of this!!!

Luckily for Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ramjet, and Sunstorm, none of them should have been on the planet, so they should all still be out there. And you never know, the ones who were on earth may have been some of the pieces that Prowl and Jazz were unable to retrieve.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Newtilator » Sat May 23, 2009 12:08 pm

My god...
that was rubbish.
So empty... so badly written compared to the rest of the series...
Im so dissapointed i could cry.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sat May 23, 2009 12:55 pm

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Tekka wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:So, are the Starscream-clones, the constructicons, and Weird Al dead now???? :-(

I want another 10 seasons of this!!!

Luckily for Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ramjet, and Sunstorm, none of them should have been on the planet, so they should all still be out there. And you never know, the ones who were on earth may have been some of the pieces that Prowl and Jazz were unable to retrieve.


Actually, now that you mention it, Prowl DID say he was unable to retrieve the entire AllSpark.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Inevitable Betrayal » Sat May 23, 2009 2:18 pm

Wasn't the Allspark in a matrix-shaped container in Season 1? I think that was just the Allspark chained around Optimus's neck. Either that or a coincidentally matrix-shaped medal. Still could've used more explanation and fewer transformation sequences. >_<
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Sat May 23, 2009 2:25 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
Tekka wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:So, are the Starscream-clones, the constructicons, and Weird Al dead now???? :-(

I want another 10 seasons of this!!!

Luckily for Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ramjet, and Sunstorm, none of them should have been on the planet, so they should all still be out there. And you never know, the ones who were on earth may have been some of the pieces that Prowl and Jazz were unable to retrieve.


Actually, now that you mention it, Prowl DID say he was unable to retrieve the entire AllSpark.

Plus if they did manage to summon them, the bots would have been pulled towards Prowl and Jazz like Starscream.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sat May 23, 2009 3:12 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
Tekka wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:So, are the Starscream-clones, the constructicons, and Weird Al dead now???? :-(

I want another 10 seasons of this!!!

Luckily for Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ramjet, and Sunstorm, none of them should have been on the planet, so they should all still be out there. And you never know, the ones who were on earth may have been some of the pieces that Prowl and Jazz were unable to retrieve.


Actually, now that you mention it, Prowl DID say he was unable to retrieve the entire AllSpark.

Plus if they did manage to summon them, the bots would have been pulled towards Prowl and Jazz like Starscream.


No, Prowl and Jazz were only summoning AllSpark fragments, not Sparks in general.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Sat May 23, 2009 3:32 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
Tekka wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:So, are the Starscream-clones, the constructicons, and Weird Al dead now???? :-(

I want another 10 seasons of this!!!

Luckily for Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ramjet, and Sunstorm, none of them should have been on the planet, so they should all still be out there. And you never know, the ones who were on earth may have been some of the pieces that Prowl and Jazz were unable to retrieve.


Actually, now that you mention it, Prowl DID say he was unable to retrieve the entire AllSpark.

Plus if they did manage to summon them, the bots would have been pulled towards Prowl and Jazz like Starscream.


No, Prowl and Jazz were only summoning AllSpark fragments, not Sparks in general.

I know, I was referring to the allspark bots you guys where mentioning, that's why I quoted you.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sat May 23, 2009 4:15 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:No, Prowl and Jazz were only summoning AllSpark fragments, not Sparks in general.

I know, I was referring to the allspark bots you guys where mentioning, that's why I quoted you.[/quote]

I see. When you say "bots" you have to be more specific.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tristar » Sat May 23, 2009 5:40 pm

Actually Soundwave, and The Dinobots where given life by the Sari's key (Which makes her kinda like there mother...ewwwww...) Wreck-gar might be online as might be the Contructicons, and Star scream clones(Without Starscream to draw mental engrams from they'll more than likely become independent if they continue the series or do a spin off.

What's gonna happen to the Omega Units? (uh...I will not and refuse to call them omega lugnutz!)

As to who rescued Optimus from the blast I think be can give that lestous credit to what was left of Prowls spark before he joined the well of Allsparks....


Anyone besides me get the Terminator vibe when Megatron gave the order to destroy everything that isn't him? How about when Optimus did his very good immatition of thor using his mighty hammer!

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat May 23, 2009 5:42 pm

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The only known robot who was kept alive by an AllSpark fragment that is confirmed dead was Starscream.

None of his male clones are dead due to their not being present on Earth. As for the Female clone, the Constructicons, and Wreck-Gar, none of them were seen being pulled towards Prowl and Jazz. so we can assume they're still alive as well.

Besides, Jazz and Prowl didn't reform the complete AllSpark. They only reassembled the fragments that were within the vicinity of Detroit. Who knows how many are still scattered around that they couldn't gather.

As for the Matrix around Prime's neck, it was NOT the actual Matrix of Leadership. The Matrix in this series is Stormbringer, the Magnus Hammer. And while the AllSpark container does bear a resemblance to the Matrix, it still looks drasitcally different when two are seen side-by-side.

In other words, that Matrix was not given any explaination and so is a bit of a mystery. But some here suggest it's possibly a medal of some sort, so that's a possibility.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat May 23, 2009 5:46 pm

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Tristar wrote:What's gonna happen to the Omega Units? (uh...I will not and refuse to call them omega lugnutz!)
Well that's fine because they're called "Lugnut Supremes"

Oh, and there's no "Z".
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