The Energon Pub

[Va'al]

One, nowhere were we ever told that Laserbeak "dies", only that he gets "disabled", which could mean a number of things (damaged, vulnerable, occupied, etc.).

'Disabled', not 'missing'. Almost had it right, thank you.

[Sabrblade]

One, nowhere were we ever told that Laserbeak "dies", only that he gets "disabled", which could mean a number of things (damaged, vulnerable, occupied, etc.).

'Disabled', not 'missing'. Almost had it right, thank you.

Well, he could be "missing" from a later fight because of his being "disabled" here.

[Va'al]

One, nowhere were we ever told that Laserbeak "dies", only that he gets "disabled", which could mean a number of things (damaged, vulnerable, occupied, etc.).

'Disabled', not 'missing'. Almost had it right, thank you.

Well, he could be "missing" from a later fight because of his being "disabled" here.

Yeah, I just couldn't be bothered to find the description as I was typing earlier, and got a metonymic error.

[MasterSoundBlaster]

Guys! Theory here:

So You got wheeljack and Ratchet coming together to "work out" their differences,and since the Mega-hammer thing can only be used by a Prime and can bend Cybertronian physics(forgive spelling) to recreate organic compounds(Cybertronian organs),AND the autobots are at an extreme disadvantage against the Cons and recently aquired insecticons...

So could we see Dinobots very soon?

-Dinobots hinted awhile back to appear in Prime
-Ratchet and wheeljack worry about the science and warrior aspects
-Prime gives them "life"
-Special nod to the G1 origin and please fans

I know they might be considered to already exist in the canon, but maybe not because Hasbro loves to make $$$. Thoughts?

[njb902]

Guys! Theory here:

So You got wheeljack and Ratchet coming together to "work out" their differences,and since the Mega-hammer thing can only be used by a Prime and can bend Cybertronian physics(forgive spelling) to recreate organic compounds(Cybertronian organs),AND the autobots are at an extreme disadvantage against the Cons and recently aquired insecticons...

So could we see Dinobots very soon?

-Dinobots hinted awhile back to appear in Prime
-Ratchet and wheeljack worry about the science and warrior aspects
-Prime gives them "life"
-Special nod to the G1 origin and please fans

I know they might be considered to already exist in the canon, but maybe not because Hasbro loves to make $$$. Thoughts?

unfortunately shockwave has already built the dinobots back on cybertron. though I do like your idea.

[Shadowman]

I know they might be considered to already exist in the canon, but maybe not because Hasbro loves to make $$$. Thoughts?

That isn't actually how it works. The lack of consistency is due to poor communication between High Moon Studios and the creators of TF:Prime, it has nothing to do with Hasbro wanting more money. Especially since they have to know people are getting sick of the lack of consistency between game book and show.

[njb902]

I know they might be considered to already exist in the canon, but maybe not because Hasbro loves to make $$$. Thoughts?

That isn't actually how it works. The lack of consistency is due to poor communication between High Moon Studios and the creators of TF:Prime, it has nothing to do with Hasbro wanting more money. Especially since they have to know people are getting sick of the lack of consistency between game book and show.

true......though I think it gives saberblade something to do in his spare time

[Dead Metal]

I have a theory, the next epp is about Wheeljack and Ratchet joining forces. We already know that Ratchet dislikes Wheeljack due to him being a warrior through and through.

I think they where teamed up for one specific reason, remember how the creators said last year that Wheeljack is both a scientist and a warrior? Well teaming them up would be a perfect opportunity to reveal this fact in canon.

They could run into some kind of problem requiring scientific knowledge and Wheeljack could find the answer, or at least help find the answer, or maybe drop some trivia.

Just a though. Guess we'll see this Saturday, well Sunday in my case.

[Sabrblade]

I have a theory, the next epp is about Wheeljack and Ratchet joining forces. We already know that Ratchet dislikes Wheeljack due to him being a warrior through and through.

I think they where teamed up for one specific reason, remember how the creators said last year that Wheeljack is both a scientist and a warrior? Well teaming them up would be a perfect opportunity to reveal this fact in canon.

They could run into some kind of problem requiring scientific knowledge and Wheeljack could find the answer, or at least help find the answer, or maybe drop some trivia.

Just a though. Guess we'll see this Saturday, well Sunday in my case.

I do like this idea, but Dreadwing's debut episode already presented the perfect opportunity for this to happen (with Wheeljack attempting to disarm the bomb on Bulkhead) and it was more or less a vague result.

One could say that he simply couldn't figure out how to disarm it, thus making him come off as not being technically skilled.

Or, one could say, since he'd narrowed it down to two wires, that his tech skills were being used to disarm it, but that it was simply so complicated a bomb that even he was having difficulty with it.

Though, even if he doesn't show any engineering skills in this show, he has shown having once been an engineer/inventor in the Exiles novel, which is set eons ago in the past and a lot can happen to a guy since then.

[Shadowman]

The way I heard it, he's supposed to be the MacGyver type. Making crazy inventions out of random objects, and all that.

[Rodimus2006]

Wheeljack is diffrent he is a loner he is a warrior he is nothing like his G1 counterpart while this Wheeljack is a loner he is a Wrecker he Bulkhead and Seaspray where a subgroup called the Wreckers diffrent from DOTM Wreckers.

Ratchet is a scientist he is battle weary he would love it he could advoid battles altogether but when push comes to shove Racthet can bring it even better than Wheeljack can.

2 diffrent personalites they are going to be conficting issues & diffrences between the 2 but overall they respect each other but they dont like each other.

Sort of how it is with Optimus & Dreadwing deal is they dont like each other but they respect each other. They worked together to take down Starscream and try to immobilize him but they dont like each other.

Wheeljack in Prime reminds of Wingsaber in Cybertron as Wingsaber in one point in time even tried to attack OP. Wheeljack doesnt like authority either probably the reason he isnt on Team Prime.

I love how they used Dark Energon could this be a way to bring back Unicron. Dark Energon is the life blood of Unicron so I guess as long as Dark Energon exsist Unicron will always be a threat.

Also since the relics of power are items for the original 13s could that mean they will be in Prime either in flashbacks or show up in current time.

I have one theory on how to bring in the 13s you can have something to do with maybe the time space continuum which would make vortex and rip open time & space thus things from the past can come to the present.

Or maybe the Fallen the original Decepticon also a 13 maybe he could be in deep stasis somewhere locked away on Earth. Someone or something re-activates him.

I have lots of ideas on how to introduce the 13s or the Fallen but like I said Theortical Ideas.

Also Toxicity is the last named Prime Episode could mean that they havent released the remainder episodes or could be taken a break for a short peroid.

Also what will happen with Silas in Knockouts body is this Project Chimera was Nemesis Prime a field test for something more sinister.

Also how will Starscream get out of the pickle he is in being traped at the bottom of the Ocean with the Apex Armor. Remember Scream didnt re-install his T-Cog from his Clone.

Transformers Animated also had Scream Clones which became Sceam Omega Clones.

[crazyjeffy]

That is breakdown's body. Knockout is the red car.

I think ss will probably just walk to shore. If he can survive in the suit at that temperature he can probably walk to south america.

And all the clones in prime are dead. Would be interesting if there were more thiugh.

[Sabrblade]

Wheeljack is diffrent he is a loner he is a warrior he is nothing like his G1 counterpart while this Wheeljack is a loner he is a Wrecker he Bulkhead and Seaspray where a subgroup called the Wreckers diffrent from DOTM Wreckers.

One, we know all this.

Two, if you'd read the novels, you'd know that Prime Wheeljack did indeed used to be an engineer/inventor when he first joined the Wreckers back on Cybertron during the war eons ago. A LOT has happened to him since then, as he's currently embraced his warrior side more than his former technical side.

Ratchet is a scientist he is battle weary he would love it he could advoid battles altogether but when push comes to shove Racthet can bring it even better than Wheeljack can.

2 diffrent personalites they are going to be conficting issues & diffrences between the 2 but overall they respect each other but they dont like each other.

Sort of how it is with Optimus & Dreadwing deal is they dont like each other but they respect each other. They worked together to take down Starscream and try to immobilize him but they dont like each other.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Wheeljack in Prime reminds of Wingsaber in Cybertron as Wingsaber in one point in time even tried to attack OP. Wheeljack doesnt like authority either probably the reason he isnt on Team Prime.

Except that Wheeljack doesn't as near the same level of cockiness that Wing saber had.

I love how they used Dark Energon could this be a way to bring back Unicron. Dark Energon is the life blood of Unicron so I guess as long as Dark Energon exsist Unicron will always be a threat.

They've said that when one is dead in this show, they stay dead. Unicron was already silenced before. For them to bring him back would be repetitive and uncreative.

Also since the relics of power are items for the original 13s could that mean they will be in Prime either in flashbacks or show up in current time.

Not all of the relics are Artifacts of the Primes. Some of them were made by the Autobots and Deceptcions themselves, like the Spark Extractor. Only the Forge of Solus Prime and the Apex Armor are the Prime artifacts we've seen thus far.
As for the Thirteen themselves, we've already seen them in a flashback during "One Shall Raise - Part 1".

I have one theory on how to bring in the 13s you can have something to do with maybe the time space continuum which would make vortex and rip open time & space thus things from the past can come to the present.

Or maybe the Fallen the original Decepticon also a 13 maybe he could be in deep stasis somewhere locked away on Earth. Someone or something re-activates him.

I have lots of ideas on how to introduce the 13s or the Fallen but like I said Theortical Ideas.

I highly doubt the Thirteen will show up anytime soon since Hasbro wants to reveal the Thirteen by themselves, rather than let one of their cartoons do it for them.

Plus, not all the Thirteen are still alive. Some are dead.

Also Toxicity is the last named Prime Episode could mean that they havent released the remainder episodes or could be taken a break for a short peroid.

The latter. A recent interview with Ernie Hudson revealed that there will be a mid-seaosn hiatus after "Toxicity".

Also what will happen with Silas in Knockouts body is this Project Chimera was Nemesis Prime a field test for something more sinister.

Breakdown, not Knock Out.

Also how will Starscream get out of the pickle he is in being traped at the bottom of the Ocean with the Apex Armor. Remember Scream didnt re-install his T-Cog from his Clone.

He'll have to walk home.

Transformers Animated also had Scream Clones which became Sceam Omega Clones.

The clones in this show, however, were all destroyed.

[Rodimus2006]

Ive been busy with new games right now I am on 3 big games Xenoblade Chronicles, Tales of Graces, and lastly Witcher 2.

Recently just paid of Transformers FOC on my PS3 now I just have to wait till it is released.

Sorry Saber on Knockout & Breakdown I get the 2 confused.

The reason I was saying Unicron might come back is cause that was Unicron's Voice when Dark Energon took over the Nemesis and began to control it and search for the Iocon Relics.

Yes I do realize some Relics werent the 13 Relics such as the G1 immobilizer and Spark Extractor.

I kinda of figured Scream would walk out cause he didnt install the T-Cog from his clone the T-Cog is part of thier Alt.Mode which controls thier abilites such as Screams Flight.

I been paying attention Saber I know what is going on I havent missed 1 episode of Prime and I have S1 on DVD.

I have read Exodus but not some of the comics. Been busy with my new games and Im fixing to get my 3DS so I dont have much time to juggle around.

Watching new series such as Green Latern waiting on Ultimate Spiderman and Tron Uprising.

[Sabrblade]

The reason I was saying Unicron might come back is cause that was Unicron's Voice when Dark Energon took over the Nemesis and began to control it and search for the Iocon Relics.

That was not Unicron's voice. That was the voice of the Nemesis itself. Unicron was voiced by John Noble, the voice of the Nemesis was Kevin Michael Richardson.

[Rodimus2006]

Well to me that almost sounded like Unircon I forgot another property of Dark Energon is that re-animated he dead and brings them back to life.

Sort of like how the T-Virus and stuff works in Resident Evil it brings the dead back to life but with limited functions.

I wonder how long this break will be since season 2 comes out this Fall/Winter my guess is October November then Season 3 comes back in full around Q1st 2013.

No Dinobots & Combiners in S2 as S2 is about the Relics of Iacon but they are still several episodes left so I guess there could be a slight possibility of them showing up.

[Sabrblade]

I wonder how long this break will be since season 2 comes out this Fall/Winter my guess is October November then Season 3 comes back in full around Q1st 2013.

We're in season 2 now. The "Orion Pax - Parts 1-3" episodes were the start of season 2.

No Dinobots & Combiners in S2 as S2 is about the Relics of Iacon but they are still several episodes left so I guess there could be a slight possibility of them showing up.

Yep, it's possible they could come later. Combiners are confirmed as "coming", and the Dinobots are said to be "on the radar".

[Rodimus2006]

My Bad on that Saber that was a typo on my end I meant to say Season 3 as now we are in Season almost the mid-way on episode 15.

Each season of Prime is said to have 26 or so episodes in it similar towards season 1.

Prime is said to be at least 4 seasons long but right now this is a rumor.

I was tring to say Saber that Season 3 will begin this Fall/Winter and show the 1st Multipart Episodes then it takes a break then it will return in Q1 2013 with Season 3 probably beginning in October/November this year.

Season 2 is fixing to take a short break the last aired episodes will be Toxicity then it should return later this summer around June/July is my guess.

Like I said no Dinobots or Combiners things like that dont show up until the final seasons and are part of the story arc and the direction of the show.

They arent brought int on a whim they are built up then they are brought in.

Season 2 is about the relics of power and each team trying get 1 up on each other. While it is possible we might get 1 or 2 new characters that could pe possible ones such as Perceptor or a new bad guy such as the Fallen but the Fallen is just a rumor.

In G1 the 1st combiner didnt show up until S3 which was Devestator the Dinobots debuted in S2.

Could be similar to what can happen in Prime but only time will tell.

Right now I am more intetested in Silas and what he will be doing.

[BeastProwl]

EVERYTHING YOU TYPE IS A WALL OF TEXT!!!!

ahem.
Also, didnt the dinobots and devestator both show up in season 1 of G1?

[Shadowman]

EVERYTHING YOU TYPE IS A WALL OF TEXT!!!!

Usually only a third of which has anything to do with the topic at hand. We've called him out on this many times before but he still hasn't gotten it.

ahem.
Also, didnt the dinobots and devestator both show up in season 1 of G1?

Yep. Dinobots first appeared in episode 8 of season 1, Constructicons and Devastator first appeared in the season 1 finale.

[Sabrblade]

In G1 the 1st combiner didnt show up until S3 which was Devestator the Dinobots debuted in S2.

Both the Dinobots and Devastator debuted in G1 season 1, in "S.O.S. Dinobots", "War of the Dinobots", and "Heavy Metal War".

[Rodimus2006]

Sorry Saber mised up on my G1 facts also been some time since I watched my Rhino G1 DVDs.

Yep still have the old Rhino G1 sets, have Cybertron Ultimate with Energon also Armada, with Armada being done by Rhino Cybertron & Enegron are Parmount.

What I am most curious is what or how will Silas factor into what is going on does MECH know about the Iacon Relics will they interfer and pick thier moment.

It is going to be awesome to see Silas in Knockouts Body. Is this what Project Chimera really was and Nemesis Prime merly a field test for something more sinister.

Also Saber you never can tell about Scream he could have an Alt. Base of Operations set up somewhere with more Scream Clones.

But for now all Scream Clones are destroyed but that probably isnt the only ace in the hole Starscream has.

Also do you think Airachnid will ever be released from Stasis.

Like I said Saber got my G1 facts messed up been quite sometime since I dug out my old Rhino sets they probably have dust on them.

[Sabrblade]

It is going to be awesome to see Silas in Knockouts Body.

Breakdown

Here's a way to remember who's who.
The big guy tends to be the one who breaks stuff, so he's Breakdown.
The other guy is good-looking, or "a knock out", so he's Knock Out.

Also Saber you never can tell about Scream he could have an Alt. Base of Operations set up somewhere with more Scream Clones.

This Starscream is down in the dumps with barely any resources. He's lost everything, so he has nothing. The Harbinger is his only place to call home now because neither Autobots nor the Decpeticons have any need for it.

Like I said Saber got my G1 facts messed up been quite sometime since I dug out my old Rhino sets they probably have dust on them.

You don't have to go back and watch the show to remember stuff like that. You can look up the info on TFWiki or whatnot.

[King Kuuga]

Prime is said to be at least 4 seasons long but right now this is a rumor.

Prime will end when Hasbro pulls the plug on it. At this point, we know Season 3 is in production, anything beyond that is up in the air. If we follow the pattern set by Animated, they'll end Prime in 2014 to clear room for the next movie.

I was tring to say Saber that Season 3 will begin this Fall/Winter and show the 1st Multipart Episodes then it takes a break then it will return in Q1 2013 with Season 3 probably beginning in October/November this year.

Season 2 is fixing to take a short break the last aired episodes will be Toxicity then it should return later this summer around June/July is my guess.

I think you're still confusing seasons 2 and 3. If S2 picks up in, say, August, and continues uninterrupted to the finale, it will end in mid to late October, like season 1. That sets up Season 3 to start in February 2013 and repeat the pattern. It's very unlikely, what with the season break, that we'll see more than a brief teaser of Season 3 in 2012.

Like I said no Dinobots or Combiners things like that dont show up until the final seasons and are part of the story arc and the direction of the show.

They arent brought int on a whim they are built up then they are brought in.

Neither of those makes much sense, though, because the Dinobots are developed in Fall of Cybertron and we know that combiners (or at least Bruticus) existed on Cybertron already at that time. It's just a matter of finding a way to bring them into the show.

[Sabrblade]

Neither of those makes much sense, though, because the Dinobots are developed in Fall of Cybertron and we know that combiners (or at least Bruticus) existed on Cybertron already at that time. It's just a matter of finding a way to bring them into the show.

That's what he means by them being "built up". He doesn't mean that they'll be created in the show, only that they need to have some sort of gradual hype built up to properly introduce each without having both seem to come from out of nowhere.