The Energon Pub

[RAcast]

At SDCC, it was asked if the Vehicons are drones or individuals. The answer given was "a little bit of both". They're "clones" is what they are, as was hinted in the episode Starscream made clones of himself from five protoforms that all had Vehicon visors on them.

Horrific revelation: There's an Alpha Vehicon (or conceivably three, one for each body type), somewhere. Presumably made MAD by the mass extinction of his clones.

Remember how Starscream felt all of his clones' pain, but they didn't?

[VirusCarnage]

Remember how Starscream felt all of his clones' pain, but they didn't?

I think that more had to do with his mutant spark or whatever they call it, or maybe Alpha Vehicon used a different formula then what starscream used.

[RAcast]

Remember how Starscream felt all of his clones' pain, but they didn't?

I think that more had to do with his mutant spark or whatever they call it, or maybe Alpha Vehicon used a different formula then what starscream used.

Er...has there been any reference to Aligned Starscream having a mutant spark? That'd be news to me.

The latter part is possible, however. Especially given that Starscream was Macgyver-ing his clones.

[Sabrblade]

Horrific revelation: There's an Alpha Vehicon (or conceivably three, one for each body type), somewhere. Presumably made MAD by the mass extinction of his clones.

Might be Fearstorm. But he's dead anyway.

Remember how Starscream felt all of his clones' pain, but they didn't?

I think that more had to do with his mutant spark or whatever they call it, or maybe Alpha Vehicon used a different formula then what starscream used.

Er...has there been any reference to Aligned Starscream having a mutant spark? That'd be news to me.

The latter part is possible, however. Especially given that Starscream was Macgyver-ing his clones.

Starcream integrated a binary bonding feature into his cloning process. He felt their pain as a side-effect of it.

[RAcast]

Horrific revelation: There's an Alpha Vehicon (or conceivably three, one for each body type), somewhere. Presumably made MAD by the mass extinction of his clones.

Might be Fearstorm. But he's dead anyway.

Remember how Starscream felt all of his clones' pain, but they didn't?

I think that more had to do with his mutant spark or whatever they call it, or maybe Alpha Vehicon used a different formula then what starscream used.

Er...has there been any reference to Aligned Starscream having a mutant spark? That'd be news to me.

The latter part is possible, however. Especially given that Starscream was Macgyver-ing his clones.

Starcream integrated a binary bonding feature into his cloning process. He felt their pain as a side-effect of it.

Ahh, I see! Guess I missed that.

[VirusCarnage]

Remember how Starscream felt all of his clones' pain, but they didn't?

I think that more had to do with his mutant spark or whatever they call it, or maybe Alpha Vehicon used a different formula then what starscream used.

Er...has there been any reference to Aligned Starscream having a mutant spark? That'd be news to me.

The latter part is possible, however. Especially given that Starscream was Macgyver-ing his clones.

I thought he did I could very well be wrong.

[VirusCarnage]

I hope Optimus gets his Gatling gun back for Predacons Rising.

[PrymeStriker]

I hope Optimus gets his Gatling gun back for Predacons Rising.

I hope someone makes Voyager BH Optimus a Gatling gun accessory. Damn, that gun is soooooo AWESOME w/ Optimus!

[VirusCarnage]

I hope Optimus gets his Gatling gun back for Predacons Rising.

I hope someone makes Voyager BH Optimus a Gatling gun accessory. Damn, that gun is soooooo AWESOME w/ Optimus!

Yes I agree, I've seen some 3rd party ones with shipping that costs almost as much as the Voyager toy.

[PrymeStriker]

I hope Optimus gets his Gatling gun back for Predacons Rising.

I hope someone makes Voyager BH Optimus a Gatling gun accessory. Damn, that gun is soooooo AWESOME w/ Optimus!

Yes I agree, I've seen some 3rd party ones with shipping that costs almost as much as the Voyager toy.

Really? A third-party BH Optimus Gatling gun accessory exists? Could you post the link(s)?

EDIT: Nevermind. Found it. :3

[Rodimus2006]

Hey has it been said it Preadcon Rising will have a Time Jump or is it taking place immediately after Season 3 or will it be a couple of years.

The only info I have uncovered is that Unicron Possesses Megatron meaning Megatron's body survived the Free Fall from the Nemesis onto Earth meaning it could be possible that somehow, someway shape or form Megatron will RETURN.

Remember He is infused with Dark Energon the Life Blood of Unicron which basically brings Dead Transformers back to life thus making them into Huskified Terracons Lifeless & No intelligence.

Still did anyone notice that the Shadow Broker's Vessel is almost indentical to the Nemesis. Noticed that when I was playing ME 2 last Night.

Cant wait to learn more Predacon Rising, will there be a Time Jump or when it takes place, see in my Falling Skies this season will the beginning of the season it jumped 2 or so years they formed an alliance with the VOLM.

I was thinking maybe Preadcon Rising does a similar move, with Team Prime coming back some how, Remember they said they were just a Bridge away.

Will there be new Transformers in Predacon Rising, what will happen to Shockwave & Starscream I assume Shockwave has a hidden Base on Cybertron maybe in the Sea of Rust.

Also what role will PredaKing play also curious to see Knockouts transition from Decepticon to Autobot. Will he turn back once he learns of Megatron's Return.

Will Soundwave escape the Negative Zone.

[PrymeStriker]

The only info I have uncovered is that Unicron Possesses Megatron meaning Megatron's body survived the Free Fall from the Nemesis onto Earth meaning it could be possible that somehow, someway shape or form Megatron will RETURN.

No. Unicron possesses Megatron's lifeless body.

Remember He is infused with Dark Energon the Life Blood of Unicron which basically brings Dead Transformers back to life thus making them into Huskified Terracons Lifeless & No intelligence.

A more likely outcome is that the Dark Satr Saber reawakens Unicron and uses Megatron's body as a way to get around.

I was thinking maybe Preadcon Rising does a similar move, with Team Prime coming back some how, Remember they said they were just a Bridge away.

According to the sypnosis, the Autobots, Decepticons, and Predacons are teaming up to stop Unicron. They'll likely be returning to Earth to investigate the situation.

Will there be new Transformers in Predacon Rising,

Two new Predacons: Darksteel & Skylynx.

what will happen to Shockwave & Starscream I assume Shockwave has a hidden Base on Cybertron maybe in the Sea of Rust.

That base was destroyed. Shockwave has plenty of labs in Cybertron.

Also what role will PredaKing play also curious to see Knockouts transition from Decepticon to Autobot. Will he turn back once he learns of Megatron's Return.

Megatron shouldn't be coming back, meaning he's staying with the Autobots. Regardless, all factions are forming an alliance.

Will Soundwave escape the Negative Zone.

Shadowzone*

[Rodimus2006]

Sorry my info is cofused as i am also currently watching Falling Skies

Next year is going to be sickly AWESOME, you have the new Transformers series, you have TF 4 marking 30 years of Transformers.

Still I cant wait for Predacon Rising so what do you guys think will it be right after season 3 ends, or will it be a time Jump being Years after PRIME ended making JACK, RAF, MIKO young Adults.

Nothing has been said about the Time Period of Predacon Rising just the vagest of details are known such as above with the new Predacons.

I assume those are CLONES from one of Shockwave's Lab. But the Question is who will they be LOYAL TO. or are they Renegade know such as PredaKing is now being NO SIDES.

So many questions hopefully the movie will ultimately end and bring complete closure.

Also what about its running Time about 2hrs more than likely I say.

[skynet1O1]

Megatron will return. He always does and he truly never dies.

[Dead Metal]

F**k he's still around doing the same sh*t?
So all the stuff I did and warnings I issues where all for naught?

[VirusCarnage]

F**k he's still around doing the same sh*t?
So all the stuff I did and warnings I issues where all for naught?

Ya pretty much.

[njb902]

F**k he's still around doing the same sh*t?
So all the stuff I did and warnings I issues where all for naught?

Well there is the comedic value.

[TurboMMaster]

Unicron posses Megatron's Body, reformating him into Galvatron. He become uprage into much bigger, stronger and fasteretc. Also, he will be a Triple Changer with both Yet and Tank as his Vechicale modes. Firstly he would simply seems to be a Shell for Unicron, bu later it would be reaviled that some part of Megatron's Ego survived, and will be reavekened after Unicron return to it's good old self.

We must remeber that Megatron's Spark was more devastated after Space Bridge explosion, and somehow mamage to survive, even without direct conection to Dark Energon.

[VirusCarnage]

Unicron posses Megatron's Body, reformating him into Galvatron. He become uprage into much bigger, stronger and fasteretc. Also, he will be a Triple Changer with both Yet and Tank as his Vechicale modes. Firstly he would simply seems to be a Shell for Unicron, bu later it would be reaviled that some part of Megatron's Ego survived, and will be reavekened after Unicron return to it's good old self.

I hope they don't do Galvatron, I hate Galvatron with the passion that resides within my spark.

[TurboMMaster]

Well, I think Prime's Megatyron is to popular and too marketing-important to Hasbro to miss him in Preacon Rising. However, Ressurecting him after he has ben stabbed right in spark and falled from Orbit would be kinda awkward. This why I think the best way to restoring him is to create new character basing on him. That is why turning him into Galvatron fits for me. We must remeber, that I don't think Unicron wouldbe pleased with he's new Body. He would want to regain he's original Body or construct more God-worhty as soon as possible. And now, thanks to Cybermeter, there is meaning of resurecting him.

[Slashercon]

Um, if all the info you guys are giving out about Predacons Rising were true, then technically wouldn't you be SPOILING it for us by posting that stuff without the spoilers cover? Especially since it hasn't even been aired/released yet.

[Fires_Of_Inferno]

I was actually pretty disappointed with how they closed up the series.

I was hoping for something a little more epic with Soundwave. So far the only one who bested him in combat was Optimus. I think he and Wheeljack should have had a rematch. Seriously, could he NOT have just turned off the ground bridge gate that HE opened?

I hate how they ended the series with no Autobot deaths (well, ok, ONE at the start) but the Decepticons were easily dropped. Seriously, how are we supposed to believe that they've been at war for millions of years when Autobots don't die? I honestly expected both Ratchet and Smokescreen to die by the end of the main series before the movie.

This last episode was SEVERELY rushed. With how long and drawn out the episode before this was, they could have easily cut it short and fit some of this episode into that one so that this one had more time.

Ratchet suddenly becomes a capable fighter. Where he got his ass handed to him whenever he fought Decepticons (with the exception of the Synth-En episode), suddenly he's going toe-to-toe with Shockwave, who has taken on multiple Autobots at the same time.

The Wreckers did NOTHING this episode. They beat on some Vehicons, that's it.

Miko did NOTHING while in the Apex Armor. She beat on some Vehicons, that's it.

Bumblebee killed Megatron. I expected him to come back and distract Megatron long enough for Prime to get the killing shot, but just outright killing him himself? Also, Megatron survived worse than being stabbed through the chest, why does it kill him now?

How come none of the Autobots grabbed the Apex Armor? It's indestructible, they could have torn through EVERYONE with it. Why leave something that powerful at the base when they thought they might get killed in this mission? They didn't plan ahead of time for Miko to wear it. They also had that Magnetic Gauntlet thing that could have made things easier for them.

Speaking of Iacon Relics, the Decepticons had the Forcefield Generator and the Resonance Blaster. Did all of these super weapons some how fall completely out of their memory?

Now that I think about it, I think the Decepticons might have still had the Magnetic Gauntlet after they destroyed the first Autobot base.

Now there were some things I liked, sure.

Knockout "defecting" at the end was hilarious.

Bumblebee killing Megatron was irritating to me, but I suppose I can't be too mad about it since it was really a nice switch from the whole "Only Optimus can kill Megatron" deal they have going on with Transformers.

Starscream and Shockwave squirming in an escape pod was hilarious.

I'm glad Starscream dropped the backstabbing traitor aspect. It's nice to see character development on the Decepticon side.

Arcee's farewell to Jack was spot on for the character.

Still though, overall the series was one of the better ones. I think Beast Wars is still #1 for me with this one being #2, and G1 being #3 for it's nostalgia factor, and the fact that all the other series' were horrible. Of course, TFP might take #1 upon a second viewing of the series. They could have ended it better though. Of course, I gotta wait for Predacons Rising before the series is truly over.

[RAcast]

Um, if all the info you guys are giving out about Predacons Rising were true, then technically wouldn't you be SPOILING it for us by posting that stuff without the spoilers cover? Especially since it hasn't even been aired/released yet.

If you're reading a discussion thread, that's the risk you run.

[Sabrblade]

Unicron posses Megatron's Body, reformating him into Galvatron. He become uprage into much bigger, stronger and fasteretc. Also, he will be a Triple Changer with both Yet and Tank as his Vechicale modes. Firstly he would simply seems to be a Shell for Unicron, bu later it would be reaviled that some part of Megatron's Ego survived, and will be reavekened after Unicron return to it's good old self.

Of all this, the line in bold is the only thing you wrote that is true.

Um, if all the info you guys are giving out about Predacons Rising were true, then technically wouldn't you be SPOILING it for us by posting that stuff without the spoilers cover? Especially since it hasn't even been aired/released yet.

Don't worry, only about 10% of what was said above is true.

Though, the summary of the movie has already been made public thanks to Hasbro loudly blurting it out on their official press release announcement for the movie.

I was hoping for something a little more epic with Soundwave. So far the only one who bested him in combat was Optimus. I think he and Wheeljack should have had a rematch. Seriously, could he NOT have just turned off the ground bridge gate that HE opened?

He had exactly two seconds to react before his own portal grabbed him and immobilized him. Not exactly a whole lot of time to do much of anything.

Plus, had he shut off his own portal, that would have left him exposed and open to attack from Miko in the invincible Apex Armor, which Soundwave should be no match for.

I hate how they ended the series with no Autobot deaths (well, ok, ONE at the start) but the Decepticons were easily dropped. Seriously, how are we supposed to believe that they've been at war for millions of years when Autobots don't die? I honestly expected both Ratchet and Smokescreen to die by the end of the main series before the movie.

Just goes to show how they never should have used Cliffjumper for a cheap shock gimmick in the beginning.

Ratchet suddenly becomes a capable fighter. Where he got his ass handed to him whenever he fought Decepticons (with the exception of the Synth-En episode), suddenly he's going toe-to-toe with Shockwave, who has taken on multiple Autobots at the same time.

He was clearly not on the same level as Shockwave, who was throwing him around with ease giving Ratchet much difficulty. Throughout most of that fight, Ratchet was being used like a ragdoll, while Shockwave was hardly breaking a sweat.

The Wreckers did NOTHING this episode. They beat on some Vehicons, that's it.

Thanks to Soundwave shoving them to the far back corners of the ship, away from all the main action.

Miko did NOTHING while in the Apex Armor. She beat on some Vehicons, that's it.

She was a distraction, that was the point. Jack was using diversionary tactics catch Soundwave off guard.

Bumblebee killed Megatron. I expected him to come back and distract Megatron long enough for Prime to get the killing shot, but just outright killing him himself?

Megs had it coming, and Bee got retribution after having lost his voice to Megatron. Bee was also in the right place at the right time, saw an opportunity, and seized it. Had he not, Optimus might not have still been there, as Optimus was in no position to take Megatron out.

Also, Megatron survived worse than being stabbed through the chest, why does it kill him now?

What previous stabbings has this Megatron had that were worse than his entire torso being penetrated all the way through by a gigantic sword of the gods?

How come none of the Autobots grabbed the Apex Armor? It's indestructible, they could have torn through EVERYONE with it. Why leave something that powerful at the base when they thought they might get killed in this mission? They didn't plan ahead of time for Miko to wear it.

As previous episodes have shown, no Autobot is willing to risk losing any of the Iacon Relics by bringing them into battle, except for Smokescreen, who is reckless and rambunctious, but doesn't manage to lose the Phase Shifter due to his using it smartly.

They also had that Magnetic Gauntlet thing that could have made things easier for them.

No they didn't. The Polarity Gauntlet was still in the Nemesis' vault.

Speaking of Iacon Relics, the Decepticons had the Forcefield Generator and the Resonance Blaster. Did all of these super weapons some how fall completely out of their memory?

The force field generator was destroyed way back near the beginning of season 2. As for Resonance Blaster, they probably felt they didn't need it since they were on their own home turf and had that much of an advantage already.

Now that I think about it, I think the Decepticons might have still had the Magnetic Gauntlet after they destroyed the first Autobot base.

Yep.

Now there were some things I liked, sure.

Knockout "defecting" at the end was hilarious.

Bumblebee killing Megatron was irritating to me, but I suppose I can't be too mad about it since it was really a nice switch from the whole "Only Optimus can kill Megatron" deal they have going on with Transformers.

Starscream and Shockwave squirming in an escape pod was hilarious.

I'm glad Starscream dropped the backstabbing traitor aspect. It's nice to see character development on the Decepticon side.

Arcee's farewell to Jack was spot on for the character.

Still though, overall the series was one of the better ones. I think Beast Wars is still #1 for me with this one being #2, and G1 being #3 for it's nostalgia factor, and the fact that all the other series' were horrible.

Beast Machines? Cybertron? Animated? None of those were "horrible".

[Fires_Of_Inferno]

Beast Machines? Cybertron? Animated? None of those were "horrible".

*eyetwitch*

Ok, so to ME they were horrible.