The Energon Pub

[Rodimus2006]

No I enjoyed Energon while I agree that the show was weak at the beginning of the series it really picked up in the middle of the series then was awesome at the ending of the series.

It had cool moments in Energon such as Demolisher sacrificing himself, what happend with Scopinok the battles with Unicron and also Arcee.

I also liked the concept of Super Energon it powered up the transformers thus Megatron became Galvatron, Starscram was remodeled to resemble his G1 counterpart.

All the others were also upgraded such as Jetfire, Ironhide which he looked like a Hound G1 clone and also Hotshot.

Although I would admit that Energon was a bit corny at times and some of the characters in the show were corny.

But yes I liked Energon I have the Ultimate Energon DVD set along with Ultimate Cybertron set.

[JetOptimus23]

No I enjoyed Energon while I agree that the show was weak at the beginning of the series it really picked up in the middle of the series then was awesome at the ending of the series.

I thouhgt it was the other way around.

It had cool moments in Energon such as Demolisher sacrificing himself

And then he got s new body, wiped mind, and he was just the idiot comic relief.

While i respect your opinion, and even indulge myself with some energon from time to time, (if only to riff it to extinction) Energon was an undeniable mess. The animation was stiff, the story dragged on like an injured elephant, and there were errors galore. Including spelling errors in the titles.

On a more related note, when's the res of one shall fall airing?

[Shadowman]

On a more related note, when's the res of one shall fall airing?

One week from Saturday. One Shall Fall is this Saturday, One Shall Rise part 1 is the week after that. October 16th is the series finale, and I say that because someone is going to come in with theories of another date.

[Rodimus2006]

When I make these theories I try to use stuff that is actually going on in the show.

Or I use what info we have from the show then I try to visualize or gues or piece together what might happen next sort of Decoding the show.

Sometimes I am right then again sometimes I am wrong.

This Ally deal is a 50/50 toss up cause they can even throw us a curve ball as to something totally un-expected something we didnt expect to happen.

But my guesses are either MECH or Starscream considering his long absent from the show.

This means they have a big important role for him or Something happens to Megatron once again then Scream will try to take command of the Decipticons once again.

But if something like that happens it wont happen until S2 depending on the what kind of ending cliffhanger we get in One Shall Rise.

I see many possibilites and many diffrent endings so it is hard to try to make a theory on what could happen.

For now I am just going to set back and enjoy the remaining episodes.

It is ok on waiting cause right now I am watching Clone Wars, Young Justice, and Thundercats like I said Voltron Force must be taking a break.

[LadyBug]

I just hope Starscream comes back soon. I have never really been a fan of any other version of Starscream before Prime. I blame Blum for this, partially. I just hope when Scream comes back - it is big and Scream like. =P

[DJ1107]

My bets on the ally being Breakdown. He seems the monst likely to become an Autobot (for better or worst) basically because if they decide to make Starscream or those losers at MECH then I can finally call this show out and it can rot along with Energon, and Beast Machines. So I saw the latest episode didn't watch TMI because it was a Bulkhead/Miko episode that didn't involve murder. F.B.S was okay because we finally got some Ratchet development and One shall fall just infuriated me because of the Covenant of Primus bullcrap & The fact that it toke 23 EPISODES for Optimus to be a badass (shame I don't care at this point and want to watch Megatron rip out his spark and make him into his chair) Also the fact the Raf almost died from energon poisoning or to put it in simplier terms the CHILD almost died in this episode. How is this any different from when I wanted Shockwave to come in shoot Starscream in the head kidnap the kids have Soundwave torture/probe the heads and Have Shockwave threaten them to tell him where the Autobots are or he'll blow up there homes and kill there families?

[Shadowman]

My bets on the ally being Breakdown. He seems the monst likely to become an Autobot (for better or worst) basically because if they decide to make Starscream or those losers at MECH then I can finally call this show out and it can rot along with Energon, and Beast Machines. So I saw the latest episode didn't watch TMI because it was a Bulkhead/Miko episode that didn't involve murder. F.B.S was okay because we finally got some Ratchet development and One shall fall just infuriated me because of the Covenant of Primus bullcrap & The fact that it toke 23 EPISODES for Optimus to be a badass (shame I don't care at this point and want to watch Megatron rip out his spark and make him into his chair) Also the fact the Raf almost died from energon poisoning or to put it in simplier terms the CHILD almost died in this episode. How is this any different from when I wanted Shockwave to come in shoot Starscream in the head kidnap the kids have Soundwave torture/probe the heads and Have Shockwave threaten them to tell him where the Autobots are or he'll blow up there homes and kill there families?

Serious question here: What the hell is wrong with you?

[DJ1107]

My bets on the ally being Breakdown. He seems the monst likely to become an Autobot (for better or worst) basically because if they decide to make Starscream or those losers at MECH then I can finally call this show out and it can rot along with Energon, and Beast Machines. So I saw the latest episode didn't watch TMI because it was a Bulkhead/Miko episode that didn't involve murder. F.B.S was okay because we finally got some Ratchet development and One shall fall just infuriated me because of the Covenant of Primus bullcrap & The fact that it toke 23 EPISODES for Optimus to be a badass (shame I don't care at this point and want to watch Megatron rip out his spark and make him into his chair) Also the fact the Raf almost died from energon poisoning or to put it in simplier terms the CHILD almost died in this episode. How is this any different from when I wanted Shockwave to come in shoot Starscream in the head kidnap the kids have Soundwave torture/probe the heads and Have Shockwave threaten them to tell him where the Autobots are or he'll blow up there homes and kill there families?

Serious question here: What the hell is wrong with you?

Haven't been on the board for awhlie thought you guys missed my charasmatic tone on this thread. But seriously I'm in a bad mood and need to blame it on something

[Shadowman]

Haven't been on the board for awhlie thought you guys missed my charasmatic tone on this thread. But seriously I'm in a bad mood and need to blame it on something

I'm serious. What is wrong with you, that you think a child accidentally taking what amounts to a stray bullet is somehow equal to children being tortured?

[DJ1107]

Both could equally die from it. And if torture was out of the mention the brain probeing

[Sabrblade]

DJ1107, I gotta be frank with ya.



Why do I get the feeling you would enjoy the Keepers Trilogy TF novels?

[Shadowman]

Both could equally die from it. And if torture was out of the mention the brain probeing

That is so not the same thing. Mind-scanning, maybe. But torturing children is not the same thing as a kid accidentally getting hurt by a stray bullet.

[DJ1107]

I'm a asshole Sabrblade but even I have a problem with Scott Ciencin writing. If that was an insult then fine I deserve it but is This "keeper trilogy" bad?
And for my response to Shadowman What I said was out of line And I'm sorry for that but I want to see villains on this show not clowns.

[Sabrblade]

I'm a asshole Sabrblade but even I have a problem with Scott Ciencin writing. If that was an insult then fine I deserve it but is This "keeper trilogy" bad?

Nah, wasn't an insult. Just a comment.

And for my response to Shadowman What I said was out of line And I'm sorry for that but I want to see villains on this show not clowns.

How are these villains "clowns"? Compared to them, the Unicron Trilogy Decepticons were clowns.

[DJ1107]

Well lets see outside of the whole zombie plot and now Megatron has been in a coma for most of the series and decide to have the bright idea of keeping Starscream around to make him look like a fool when he could easily kill him and NOT suffer any flaws in his plans for universe domination. Soundwave knows who the Autobots human help is could have hacked through phone lines and internet and target the loved ones of the kids (yeah MECH did it with June but they seem to never try that again with the others) that way the con's have leverage but insteads sits in the corner playing with himself. The Con's easily out number the Bot's a million to 5 yet they never seem to have the plan of sending 70 instead of 4 at a time. Starscream could have easily done away with Miko back in Rock bottom (would have been a good episode if that happen) if he didn't just start taunting Bulkhead (this is why in my fanon I made him a joke and had his arms ripped off by G1 Cliffjumper).

[Sabrblade]

Two words: Children's cartoon.

Well lets see outside of the whole zombie plot and now Megatron has been in a coma for most of the series and decide to have the bright idea of keeping Starscream around to make him look like a fool when he could easily kill him and NOT suffer any flaws in his plans for universe domination.

He saw no point in killing Starscream at all. Killing him would have been both a waste in firepower and underling.

Plus, after Megs returned, Starscream never once messed up any of Megatron's plans before episode 19. In fact, Megatron had made NO plans of his own during episodes 15-18 that Starscream was involved in. Out of those episodes, the only plan he ever had was to have Breakdown get the Polarity Gauntlet, which was ruined by Airachnid, not Starscream.

Soundwave knows who the Autobots human help is could have hacked through phone lines and internet and target the loved ones of the kids (yeah MECH did it with June but they seem to never try that again with the others) that way the con's have leverage but insteads sits in the corner playing with himself.

Soundwave is not the kind to act on his own accord. He acts under Megatron's authority and no one else's. He's that loyal.

Plus, knowing him and how skilled he is at spying, he'd probably already know of Airachnid's and MECH's failed attempt of said plan and would deem it failure that need not be repeated.

And, don't you think the Autobots would have learned from this experience, taking meansures to increase the security of the kids and their families?

The Con's easily out number the Bot's a million to 5 yet they never seem to have the plan of sending 70 instead of 4 at a time.

They've sent way more than just four before. Though, do you really think they have the resources to provide enough energy to accommodate 70 Vehicons? That seems like inefficiency and severe overkill. Why else would they be scouring the planet looking for energon deposits?

Starscream could have easily done away with Miko back in Rock bottom (would have been a good episode if that happen) if he didn't just start taunting Bulkhead (this is why in my fanon I made him a joke and had his arms ripped off by G1 Cliffjumper).

Let's see, now. If Screamer had to choose between killing the strongest Autobot soldier (whose death would really cripple the enemy's strength) or a weak puny fleshling (whose death would do nothing but just tick off the enemy), which do you think would have made more sense for him to go for?

Plus, he probably would have killed Miko after Bulkhead, but Bulkhead was a higher priority simply because Bulkhead is a greater threat to the Cons than Miko is.

[DJ1107]

The reason why I said kill Miko is at the time in Rock bottom if Starscream killed Bulkhead He would have crushed himself under all that rock. Also with the resource problem don't the Con's now have that stash of synthetic energon from the Ratchet episode? Well I guess that doesn't matter because of that Dark energon volcano. And even then thats all going to be fixed up whe the Autobots find their deus ex machina to destroy all Dark energon on earth (Just call Black Panther)

[Shadowman]

Well lets see outside of the whole zombie plot and now Megatron has been in a coma for most of the series and decide to have the bright idea of keeping Starscream around to make him look like a fool when he could easily kill him and NOT suffer any flaws in his plans for universe domination.

Remind me, what were Megatron and Starscream doing in that cave in Rock Bottom? It was either a picnic, or Megatron was about to execute Starscream because watching him attempt to devise his own evil plans just wasn't fun to watch anymore.

[DJ1107]

And that was like what 4 episodes later after his return? How did Animated Megatron deal with his Starscream wait for awhile and think "you know what this is pathetic He almost killed and been clearly planning to overthrow me for awhile and he's going to screw up any future plans I have instore. I'll take behind a wood shed and shoot him in the back of the head" Oh wait that right He killed Starscream right away after he came back!

[Shadowman]

And that was like what 4 episodes later after his return? How did Animated Megatron deal with his Starscream wait for awhile and think "you know what this is pathetic He almost killed and been clearly planning to overthrow me for awhile and he's going to screw up any future plans I have instore. I'll take behind a wood shed and shoot him in the back of the head" Oh wait that right He killed Starscream right away after he came back!

Yeah, but TFP Megatron kept him around for entertainment. Why kill your treacherous second-in-command when you can enjoy watching him fumble about trying to best you behind your back?

That said, after Megatron came back, which plan did Starscream mess up?

[DJ1107]

some somewhere in between episodes I'm sure. The finale if the writers have the the idiotic plans to make him the ally.

[Shadowman]

some somewhere in between episodes I'm sure.

So your entire argument hinges on an event that never actually happened? I'm about ready to declare "troll" in here.

The finale if the writers have the the idiotic plans to make him the ally.

Megatron didn't want Starscream to desert, that's the thing, he's worried Starscream will be captured by the Autobots and forced to give up sensitive information. Starscream doesn't know this.

Megatron wants Starscream back, if only to prevent a security leak. The Autobots, on the flip side, have entirely burned their bridge with him after learning he's the one who killed Cliffjumper. So, no, he's not the ally.

[DJ1107]

No need to almost call me a troll I haven't done stupid **** like link post porn pics of this show or lead you to a five second loop vid for ten minutes. Or give people viruses. I actually gave the show a chance and it failed me when Miko was introduced, Cliffjumper died, and It made a connection to WFC making me refuse to believe in certain points of the show.
And I'm just saying with the secret ally better be impressive I refuse to believe it's MECH because that'll end in disaster with those losers. So unless Derpy Hooves pops up out of nowhere and traps Megatron in a giant muffin then I can only hope tha Breakdown is the ally

[Sabrblade]

Okay, let's think about this.

Megatron came back at the end of episode 14.

In episode 15, Megatron had no scheme of the day. It was all Starscream's doing from the start, so Screamer botched up his own plans.

In episode 16, after Breakdown is captured by MECH, Starscream reports this to Megatron, and Megatron deems Breakdown unworthy of saving. Starscream goes to get Breakdown anyway, but again, Megatron had no plans of his own this episode, so Starscream wasn't messing up anything.

In episode 17, it's all about Airachnid and MECH, so no Megs plan and no Screamer to mess anything up.

In episode 18, Megs' plan is to have Breakdown get the Polarity Gauntlet, but that plan is foiled by Airachnid. Starscream does not appear in this episode, and so had no involvement in this plan.

In episode 19, Megatron brings Starscream to the mine to confront him about his pre-episode 14 treachery and his own fumble in episode 15, and then reveals that he's grown weary of watching Starscream fail and decides to execute him. But at the end of the episode, for reasons unknown, Megs gives him one final chance.

In episode 20, Starscream has finally sworn absolute loyalty to Megatron. Megs orders Starscream and Airachnid to retrieve the Immobilizer, but Airachnid double-crosses Screamer, leaving him to be captured by the Autobots. Even though he does escape their capture, it was Airachnid who let him be captured and thus infuriated Megatron.

[Rodimus2006]

Starscream belongs to no sides neither Autobots or Decipticons. Remember his speech at the end of the episode.

So right now Scream is the Wild Card but I could see him temporarily joining the Autobots to help them battle Unicron.

Those are my 2 picks Scream or MECH. I doubt if Breakdown would join but he could join with Scream cause Scream has leverage over Breadown after Scream helped rescue him from MECH.

It could be something like in Cybertron were Scream will have his own team with Breakdown being the 1st to join him.

In Cybertron it was Scream, Sideways, Thunderblast will for a short while she was playing both sides. and also Soundwave cause they wanted to bring back Planet X.

Nothing is known without watching more on Prime. I say sit back watch & enjoy and quite trying to spoil the ending before it is shown.

It is like with Games such as Mass Effect 3 people are trying thier hardest to spoil the game before it is even due out. I dont want the game spoiled, I just wanna know the bare mechanics of that game, Which characters, new locations, stuff like that.

With Prime I just wanna know which characters will be in it, who the ally will be but I dont want the story spoiled for me. I just wanna know enough to where I could make an educated guess of what could happen.

I am just going to sit back and enjoy these last few episodes then at the end of the month it is Transformers DOTM on friggin BR watching it in Full 1080p in my bedroom on a 32inch LCD widescreen TV enough said.

I watched my 1st class Xmen movie it was epic on my PS3 watching it in 1080p so I can only imagine what my DOTM will look like.