The Energon Pub

[Sabrblade]

Starscream belongs to no sides neither Autobots or Decipticons. Remember his speech at the end of the episode.

He's still a Decepticon. Just one who's no longer under Megatron's command.

[Burn]

No need to almost call me a troll I haven't done stupid **** like link post porn pics of this show or lead you to a five second loop vid for ten minutes. Or give people viruses. I actually gave the show a chance and it failed me when Miko was introduced, Cliffjumper died, and It made a connection to WFC making me refuse to believe in certain points of the show.
And I'm just saying with the secret ally better be impressive I refuse to believe it's MECH because that'll end in disaster with those losers. So unless Derpy Hooves pops up out of nowhere and traps Megatron in a giant muffin then I can only hope tha Breakdown is the ally

Tone the attitude down mate.

[DJ1107]

Okay since my computer was being a little baby and had to crap out on me when I wrote a long comment I'll go through how season one finale (pre-Megatron return) to season 2 beginnning should have gone.
-Shockwave appears and became an Red skull Decepticon
-blows up Autobot HQ with the help of Jack weak mind.
-Autobots survive
-Ironhide, Jazz, Wheeljack, Silverbolt, and Roadbuster appear to help the main cast.
-Starscream and Shockwave fight
-Megatron reawakens
-Autobots and Decepticons have a big fight on the nemesis
-Breakdown loses his eye to Ironhide
-Jack takes down Shockwave with a sentery gun aboard the Nemesis
-MECH take Shockwaves body to begin their Project
-Autobots make a new base Ironhide and co. leave.
-Jack leaves the team knowing he betrayed the Autobots as well as leave his home to go on a road of redemption as well as be a proactive member of the Autobots and win their trust back.
-Megatron regains control of the con's and begins a manhunt for Starscream and continue his quest for dark energon
-Optimus has a vision of Unicron.
-Shockwaves conscience hides aboard MECH's computers
-I'd feel more amused if this all happened

[Sabrblade]

...Except that season 2 brings Unicron in as the new villain. Why do you want Shockwave to come in and why do you want this to be R-rated so badly? Transformers is a KIDS' series for KIDS.

[DJ1107]

...Except that season 2 brings Unicron in as the new villain. Why do you want Shockwave to come in and why do you want this to be R-rated so badly? Transformers is a KIDS' series for KIDS.

See this was the problem I had with my computer. In my comment I wrote before this one I mentioned that Megatron was still in a coma so episodes like Rock bottom and Operation Breakdown never happened So for 20 plus episodes Megatron was still in a coma and Unicron wouldn't be introduced until season 2 essentially what I'm trying to get through is that my cliff notes are How I wished season 1-2 went. The reason why I want Shockwave is cause I've always imagine him a big 3rd where Megatron was the screw subtle leader Starscream was the idiot leader Shockwave could have been cold and calculative leader like Red Skull or General Havoc but not straight commit a genocide. And I don't want a R rating . And don't pull "it's a kid series" what about the movies those seemed "kid friendly"

[Sabrblade]

The reason why I want Shockwave is cause I've always imagine him a big 3rd where Megatron was the screw subtle leader Starscream was the idiot leader Shockwave could have been cold and calculative leader like Red Skull or General Havoc but not straight commit a genocide.

Well, Shockwave of this universe isn't a cold thinker who performs military operations, he's a mad scientist who conducts unorthodox, unethical experiments.

And don't pull "it's a kid series" what about the movies those seemed "kid friendly"

Those movies were disgraceful. They took away everything that was charming and enchanting about the Transformers and shoved in a whole bunch of college-age stoner humor to make a quick buck. Action without substance is shallow and dreary.

[DJ1107]

You ever thought that in between WFC and now something would change Shockwave from being a "pet mad scientist" to "Substitute leader of Decepticon who thinks outside the box" Thinking about it now It would make sense on how The con's kidnap the humans Shockwave gave the drones, Breakdown, and Airachnid some of his work like, a cosmic rust cannon, or null ray rifles, or perfected synthetic energon.

[Sabrblade]

You ever thought that in between WFC and now something would change Shockwave from being a "pet mad scientist" to "Substitute leader of Decepticon who thinks outside the box" Thinking about it now It would make sense on how The con's kidnap the humans Shockwave gave the drones, Breakdown, and Airachnid some of his work like, a cosmic rust cannon, or null ray rifles, or perfected synthetic energon.

It's tricky to figure this out when all one has to work with is made up stuff and hypotheticals. I dunno what to say. There's too many factors in this that it could lead to anything.

To be honest, I really don't want these characters to become super powerful death machines who slaughter their foes all gory and graphically. It's just disturbing.

[SlyTF1]

You ever thought that in between WFC and now something would change Shockwave from being a "pet mad scientist" to "Substitute leader of Decepticon who thinks outside the box" Thinking about it now It would make sense on how The con's kidnap the humans Shockwave gave the drones, Breakdown, and Airachnid some of his work like, a cosmic rust cannon, or null ray rifles, or perfected synthetic energon.

It's tricky to figure this out when all one has to work with is made up stuff and hypotheticals. I dunno what to say. There's too many factors in this that it could lead to anything.

To be honest, I really don't want these characters to become super powerful death machines who slaughter their foes all gory and graphically. It's just disturbing.

I do.

[Sabrblade]

I do.

Why? This isn't Saw, it's Transformers.

Gore is sick and revolting. I don't care how "realistic" people claim it to be. It doesn't help in telling a good story. All it does is make things look disgusting and mean-spirited.

[DJ1107]

Now I never said anything about gore I'm not Scott Ciencin I don't want to make a poorly done horror story for the sake of shock value. Okay let me run through this again I'm using my PS3 so there maybe two more post Let's go back to when Megatron was in a coma and extend it 8 more episode to the finale After predicting that the Decepticon cause is up crap creak with out a paddle Soundwave calls Shockwave in from whatever bunker he was hiding in. Fast forward several episodes later to the finale that never will happen Shockwave comes aboard the Nemesis. After getting briefed on what happen to Megatron Shockwave shoots Starscream in the head as He describes "Cutting a lose end." After that Shockwave takes control of the Decepticon's and plans his strike against the Autobots ending part 1. Part 2 would begin with Shockwave asking Soundwave if he has any information on something that can defeat the Autobots. Soundwave shows him pictures of the kids as well as archive footage of previous fights Shockwave then.

[DJ1107]

Now I never said anything about gore I'm not Scott Ciencin I don't want to make a poorly done horror story for the sake of shock value. Okay let me run through this again I'm using my PS3 so there maybe two more post Let's go back to when Megatron was in a coma and extend it 8 more episode to the finale After predicting that the Decepticon cause is up crap creak with out a paddle Soundwave calls Shockwave in from whatever bunker he was hiding in. Fast forward several episodes later to the finale that never will happen Shockwave comes aboard the Nemesis. After getting briefed on what happen to Megatron Shockwave shoots Starscream in the head as He describes "Cutting a lose end." After that Shockwave takes control of the Decepticon's and plans his strike against the Autobots ending part 1. Part 2 would begin with Shockwave asking Soundwave if he has any information on something that can defeat the Autobots. Soundwave shows him pictures of the kids as well as archive footage of previous fights Shockwave then.

[Sabrblade]

After predicting that the Decepticon cause is up crap creak with out a paddle Soundwave calls Shockwave in from whatever bunker he was hiding in.

But why would he call in Shockwave? They needed a medic, not a scientist. That's why they called in Knock Out.

Plus, Soundwave wouldn't act outside of Megatron's command and call in a new leader. Soundwave's loyalties lie with Megatron because he views Megatron as the one person who has Cybertron's best interests at hand more than anyone else.

Fast forward several episodes later to the finale that never will happen Shockwave comes aboard the Nemesis.

This begs the question as to how he'd get there, since the Space Bridge was destroyed and all.

After getting briefed on what happen to Megatron Shockwave shoots Starscream in the head as He describes "Cutting a lose end." After that Shockwave takes control of the Decepticon's and plans his strike against the Autobots ending part 1. Part 2 would begin with Shockwave asking Soundwave if he has any information on something that can defeat the Autobots. Soundwave shows him pictures of the kids as well as archive footage of previous fights Shockwave then.

Even though we the audience know of how treacherous Starscream can be, this was not the case for the in-show characters. Starscream did a good job at covering his tracks that there was no way to prove Screamer guilty of insubordination.

Not to mention that, by the time of the Prime cartoon, Starscream is officially Megatron's second-in-command, and so Shockwave apparently no longer has the authority to deal with Starscream since Screamer now outranks him. If Shockwave were to come in, logic dictates he would be subordinate to Starscream.

[DJ1107]

[continue] hatches a plan to kidnap the kids So he suits up Breakdown with experimental weaponry and a portable orbital jump (or space bridge) device. First to fall was Bumblebee who took Raf out racing Breakdown used a blackout gernade to render Bee's eye's useless and knocks him out then kidnaps Raf. Next was Bulkhead who took Miko exploring Breakdown used a cosmic rust cannon to dismember Bulkhead arm and hit him in the back of the head with his hammer Then kidnaps Miko (joy). Bulkhead warns Optimus and Arcee that he was ambushed by Breakdown Ratchet claiming that he hasn't heard from Bumblebee so it could be connected. Before Arcee can get a Space bridge she is attacked by Airachnid. Even though she put up a good fight Shockwave came down and beat Arcee up and took Jack. The three Autobots return to base battered and bruised As Arcee told Prime that Shockwave returned. Aboard the Nemesis Shockwave introduced himself to the kids As the new leader of the Decepticons and they will tell him what He want to.

[DJ1107]

[please let me finish] know or else he'll have them become Airachnid new test subject (He also reveals he has a thing for Airachnid) They didn't tell right away So Shockwave had Soundwave probe the're minds all the while lameting that Starscream ran this army into the ground that they were defeated by five mere Autobots and 3 children. The probe didn't work either so Shockwave gives them a ultimatum give him the location of the Autobots or he'll have the Terrorcons he send out to destroy their homes and kill their loved ones. Jack gives in fearing for his mom and tells Shockwave where the Autobots are. Shockwave then calls off the Terrorcons. After the Autobots are repaired they are about to go through the space bridge and save the kids. But just then Terrorcons start dropping bombs on The base Shockwave contacting them gloating that He has won with that said the Nemesis appears above the base and Shockwave unleashed all of it fire power decimateing Autobot HQ and with that part 2 and season 1 ends on a C.H.

[Sabrblade]

[please let me finish]

Okay. Though, I'll need to know when you have.

[DJ1107]

[hope I can finish in one post] Season 2 starts with Agent Fowler and a team arrive at the rubble of what use to be Autobot HQ. Turns out the Autobots aren't dead Ratchet programed the space bridge to port them 2 miles away from base surviving. At the same time a ship came into the wreckage. Wheeljack has returned and he brought friends Ironhide (Optimus old friend) Silverbolt (One of the few nice flying robot) Jazz (The Mr. Terrific of the team) Smokecreen (The Han Solo of the team and one of Arcee's former partners) and Roadbuster (Fellow Wrecker to Wheeljack and Bulkhead) They reveal they've been after Shockwave for months now and they got the message Optimus sent while the his team was getting repaired. The two groups begin a strike against Shockwave and save the kids. Aboard the Nemesis the con's are celebrating their victory Shockwave enters and tells them to get to work on pulling together all there resources in making a new space bridge. Starscream survived the shot in the head thanks to Knock Out.

[DJ1107]

[continue] Who stated he never liked Shockwave methods. Starscream decides to use the dark energon shard he ripped from Megatron. At the same time Ratchet informs Optimus that they need to stop Shockwave at any cost because years prior to now Ratchet & Cliffjumper found one of Shockwave labs and found a schematic for a Dark Energon Bomb Ratchet couldn't tell Prime because the place was wired and he didn't think it be important at the time due to the fact that They were dealing with Megatron. Optimus ask how destructive the bomb is Ratchet doesn't know for sure. Jazz interrupt the two by saying Shockwave has use this bomb before and it wiped out an entire planets population that didn't effect the con's at all. Optimus says there's no time to waist and runs through the plan Silverbolt has an orbital jump program in his system so he'll be able to port the bots in the ship while Wheeljack, Bee, and Prime use fly tech provided by Roadbuster to distract reinforcement. The Autobots gear up to save the earth endingP1

[DJ1107]

[continue] Part 2 begins with Shockwave observing construction on his space bridge knowing it's only a matter of time before his plan is complete. Starscream meanwhile finds sneaks around the ship to find his shard of Dark energon. When he does find it he is confronted by Shockwave again. He begins to monologue on how he became this tyrant. After trying to find Dark energon for Megatron in the heat of the great war he stumble on a ore of it. Shockwave stated after touching the stuff it changed him it evolved him He saw a vision of the Chaos bringer and decided to become his herald of death so he created The D.E.B. to spread as much of it across the star for his coming. Starscream calls him mad but Shockwave doesn't care once his bridge is complete this world will be another waistland. Before he can kill Starscream they are interrupted by the arrival of Optimus and co. Starscream tries to escape but the two fought throughout the ship Arcee and her team save the kids (During the time Jack been struck with guilt

[Shadowman]

Why do you need multiple posts for this?

[Sabrblade]

Why do you need multiple posts for this?

He's typing from a PS3.

[Shadowman]

Why do you need multiple posts for this?

He's typing from a PS3.

Okay.

Why is he typing from a PS3?

[DJ1107]

^because my folks fear I cause a virus from this sight.

[final part I swear] for what his betrayal in the autobots) Arcee saves the kids and tries to leave but their exit is cut off by Breakdown. In the fight between Shockwave and Starscream both have fought all the way to the med lab where by accident Starscream stabs Megatron with Dark engergon shard. Part 2 ends with Megatron opening his eye and screaming Starscream's name. The third and final part begins with Megatron tearing the ship appart chaseing Starscream for trying to murder him. Shockwave in the mean time takes this opertunity to open the space his new space bridge and begin his bomb countdown. Breakdown, Airachnid, Soundwave, and Knockout fight the Autobots. In the frenzy Jack is seperated by the group. Shockwave appears atop of the Nemesis and shoots down Optimus. Optimus begins his fight with Shockwave while telling Bumblebee to destroy the bridge Silverbolt now with him. In the frenzy Breakdown lost an eye to Jazz and got his ass stomped by Bulkhead and Roadbuster. Airachnid lost her fight to Wheeljack, and Arcee, Soundwave had his legs crushed by Ironhide, and Smokescreen beat Knock out. Ratchet in the mean time heads to the deck to shut the bridge down while the counter is ticking. Megatron tries to shoot down Starscream for his attempt on his life. A stray shot from his fusion cannon accedently destroys the bridge. Shockwave plan as failed but he wasn't going out just yet he stab Optimus with his melee weapon and tried to kill him and take his Matrix he mocks Prime by telling him his allies are weak if they were willing to jepordise the Autobot cause to save there own hids. Before Shockwave can deliever the final blow Jack mounts a sentry gun and shoots Shockwave multiple times. Shockwave then falls from the ship hitting the ground below. Optimus reunites with Jack and the other Autobots and makes a retreat for Megatron was returning. In the epilogue. The Autobots are setting up a new base Fowler made arrangements for. Most of the main cast isn't talking to Jack. Arcee believeing he's a traitor. Jack tries to apologize to Optimus. Optimus understands what Jack went through and says it's just "human nature" never the less Jack leaves the Autobots knowing he can't win there trust back. Fowler says that They didn't find Shockwaves body thinking that he still alive. Wheeljack and The other Autobots decide to leave to search for the madman. Meanwhile Shockwave body is being carried off..by MECH. Aboard the now being repaired Nemesis Megatron retakes command as leader. His first two objectives Mine for energon, and Hunt down Starscream. Jack tries to live a normal life but knows now he can't. After all he's been through there never was a going back to working at a burger joint he left a message to his mother telling her about the Autobots and to call Agent Fowler and that he has left home to find himself. He boards off a bus to begin his long road of redemption.

There I'm done. Now I just need to wait for everyone to tell me how stupid my version was.

[Sabrblade]

Okie-dokie. Let's have a looksie, shall we?

After predicting that the Decepticon cause is up crap creak with out a paddle Soundwave calls Shockwave in from whatever bunker he was hiding in.

But why would he call in Shockwave? They needed a medic, not a scientist. That's why they called in Knock Out.

Plus, Soundwave wouldn't act outside of Megatron's command and call in a new leader. Soundwave's loyalties lie with Megatron because he views Megatron as the one person who has Cybertron's best interests at hand more than anyone else.

Fast forward several episodes later to the finale that never will happen Shockwave comes aboard the Nemesis.

This begs the question as to how he'd get there, since the Space Bridge was destroyed and all.

After getting briefed on what happen to Megatron Shockwave shoots Starscream in the head as He describes "Cutting a lose end." After that Shockwave takes control of the Decepticon's and plans his strike against the Autobots ending part 1. Part 2 would begin with Shockwave asking Soundwave if he has any information on something that can defeat the Autobots. Soundwave shows him pictures of the kids as well as archive footage of previous fights Shockwave then.

Even though we the audience know of how treacherous Starscream can be, this was not the case for the in-show characters. Starscream did a good job at covering his tracks that there was no way to prove Screamer guilty of insubordination.

Not to mention that, by the time of the Prime cartoon, Starscream is officially Megatron's second-in-command, and so Shockwave apparently no longer has the authority to deal with Starscream since Screamer now outranks him. If Shockwave were to come in, logic dictates he would be subordinate to Starscream.

They didn't tell right away So Shockwave had Soundwave probe the're minds

If Soundwave can probe their minds, why didn't he do that to Agent Fowler back when they had captured him in the pilot?

The probe didn't work either so Shockwave gives them a ultimatum give him the location of the Autobots or he'll have the Terrorcons he send out to destroy their homes and kill their loved ones.

Why use Terrorcons when they can use Vehicons? The latter are readily available, while the former are not.

At the same time Ratchet informs Optimus that they need to stop Shockwave at any cost because years prior to now Ratchet & Cliffjumper found one of Shockwave labs and found a schematic for a Dark Energon Bomb Ratchet couldn't tell Prime because the place was wired and he didn't think it be important at the time due to the fact that They were dealing with Megatron. Optimus ask how destructive the bomb is Ratchet doesn't know for sure. Jazz interrupt the two by saying Shockwave has use this bomb before and it wiped out an entire planets population that didn't effect the con's at all.

Dark Energon bombs weren't as destructive as that.

After trying to find Dark energon for Megatron in the heat of the great war he stumble on a ore of it.

But it was all on Trypticon Station at the time when they were first looking for it.

As for the rest of it, heh, not bad. But it seems a bit too fast-paced with little room to breathe. Feels more like a movie plot than a string of show episode plots. though, I've seen far worse.

[DJ1107]

Well thank you I've never played WFC (finaical problem) So I didn't know All that Dark energon was in Trypticon (begs a question why Megatron went through space to find more) I the probing would have been a new feature (reality is cause I didn't want to get scoulded for physically torturing kids) The D.E.B. I thought could have been tweaked by Shockwave to have the power to eradicate life all over a planet. The whole point was That even though Megatron has D.E. he I don't think He ever had time to study it so in comes Shockwave would have centuries to study it. I've really never took time to tell the difference between Terrorcon and Vehicon there just goons in my book. The reason for calling Shockwave is that like I said before he had to have been premoted in between years so why not. I did try to go for a movie plot the DVD would have been awesome "Transformers Prime: The Rise Of Shockwave"