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The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Foxbear » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:01 pm

Shadowman wrote:
RhA wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Shadowman wrote:In fact, if you watched them work the Ground Bridge before, you'd know Optimus was lying the moment he said what it was. They've never used a key for it before, and if they did, why would Optimus take it out while they were on a mission? Easy: because he's lying.
He said it was the key to the Bridge's power supply, which, as far as we know, has never been shown before. There could still be a power supply, but no key to it.


Which is an even worse lie, because why would they need a key to that at all? Why would you need to lock up the power supply of the device you use on a daily basis?


Security measures? More humans in there on a daily basis.


I think you missed my point. It's not security measures because it's not the key to the Ground Bridge's power supply, it's the Key to Vector Sigma. My point is, if you apply a bit of logic, you could have figured out Optimus was lying the moment he told Jack what it was.


Take a good look at Optimus's face between seconds 18:50 ans 18:58 of ep 25. When he is telling Jack that it is the key to the ground bridge power suply he can't even look the human in the eye and his voice is hesitant, but everythig after that he is making straight eye contact and his voice is firm and sure. I guess it shouldn't be a big surprise but Ops can't lie worth beans... /:)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Avinash_Tyagi » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:31 pm

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Foxbear wrote:some of the original 13 Primes are still alive.


Well of course they are. Alpha Trion is always doing something. Vector Prime is still having adventures throughout time and space, the Fallen just hops from one dimension to another every time he gets killed, and while we haven't seen much of Liege Maximo since the G2 comics, there's nor reason to assume they killed him since then.

And for the love of God, can Hasbro please name the remainder of the Original 13 something other than Prime? It's getting unimaginative.



At least its not as bad as the Vorlons, all of them are named Kosh
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Nico » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:55 am

Well, while I never disliked Transformers Prime, I have to say this was a satisfying finale and the show has definately grown on me. The only downside to using Unicron so early is that it makes any other villain hard to top off from here on as Unicron is pretty much THE biggest antagonist in the transformers multiverse.

But overall? Good stuff and with two more seasons I think this show could stand side by side with Animated and Beast Wars. It certainly is superior to Animated in terms of action.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:45 am

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Nico wrote:But overall? Good stuff and with two more seasons I think this show could stand side by side with Animated and Beast Wars. It certainly is superior to Animated in terms of action.
But not in terms of story, characters, and development. Those first 11 episodes of Prime still cripple it.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:54 am

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This key is a complete mysery as to what its real purpose is, is anyone's guess ast to what its true purpose is.

But after re-watching that episode Optimus did indeed lie to Jack from his facial expresions to the way he paused he lied big time to Jack.

Why he did that unknown, why he gave Jack something so important also unknown.

But it was a big out right lie about that being the Key to the Ground Bridge when the Bridge has its own power supply.

Many questions remain what is this key, why did OP lie, and why did he give something so important to Jack.

I cant wait to see the other cons reaction when they see Orian is Decipticon now especially Airachnid.

Soundwave steals some thunder that was epic Soundwave in action finally beating down Airachnid while the others had promblems he made it look easy.

He maybe a silent mute but Soundwave dosent need to speak he lets his combat speak for him.

Also cool new twist in the upcoming new game Soundwave created the Dinobots but the questions is what makes them rebel against Soundwave.

Bigger question is BB really going to be dead in Fall we seen the pic in the in the magazine OP was holding BB.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:13 am

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Rodimus2006 wrote:This key is a complete mysery as to what its real purpose is, is anyone's guess ast to what its true purpose is.

But after re-watching that episode Optimus did indeed lie to Jack from his facial expresions to the way he paused he lied big time to Jack.

Why he did that unknown, why he gave Jack something so important also unknown.

But it was a big out right lie about that being the Key to the Ground Bridge when the Bridge has its own power supply.

Many questions remain what is this key, why did OP lie, and why did he give something so important to Jack.
He most likely lied because he didn't want Jack to know right away that he was giving Jack such a sacred item.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Also cool new twist in the upcoming new game Soundwave created the Dinobots but the questions is what makes them rebel against Soundwave.
Shockwave, not Soundwave, rebuilt the Dinobots.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Bigger question is BB really going to be dead in Fall we seen the pic in the in the magazine OP was holding BB.
More likely he's just damaged. I'm guessing that this will be how he loses his voice in the games, whereas he's already lost it in a much different way in the books.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Stormwolf » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:27 pm

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This season finale was pretty awesome.

Soundwave rocked hard in this episode, I'm convinced that he's probably the 2nd most powerfull Con.

Unicron taking over Megatron seems directly inspired by Unicron's possession of Spinister in Armada #17
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby JetOptimus23 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:41 pm

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Awesome finale I definatley didnt see OP reverting into Pax at the end coming. Note to self: Don't f**k with Soundwave. He's been hinding his mad skillz behind his silence, it seems. This series is right behind Animated as my all time favorite. Can't wait for season 2.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Chandler Prime 1 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:13 pm

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SEASON 1 FREAKIN AWASOME, GREAT JOB ALL THE WAY !!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Chandler Prime 1 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:16 pm

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Also the Autobots have the key to Vetctor Sigma wich means I bet they will be making a return to Cybertron in season 2
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby crazyjeffy » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:25 pm

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Holy cliffhangers, Batman! Season 2 is gonna be EEEPPPIIIIIICCCCC
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Aximalli_Prime » Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:42 pm

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Did anyone else notice that they made the music for the opening titles more epic? Nice touch for the season finale.

I loved the backstory scene for Optimus and Megatron and how the war began. The music is awesome and Ratchet as the perfect voice for narrating it.
Why would the key to Vector Sigma even be on Earth? Isn't is still on Cybertron? Obviously Optimus has a plan for it. Soundwave earned a ton of brownie points for me here. Can't wait to see what he'll be doing in Season 2.
When Optimus asked "Where are we, Megatronus?" my heart skipped a beat. I cannot believe that happened and now I can't die until season 2 comes out.

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Here's what I think is gonna happen: did anyone notice when Optimus looked back at Bumblebee just before going into the groundbridge at the end? The look on my face is making me think that he may be faking the memory loss to get on board the Decepticon's ship. Of course, this raises the question of why he would even want to go there. If he were going to kill Megatron, wouldn't he do it when they were alone after killing Unicron where there weren't any Decepticons to back him up?

That, or... somehow the Vector Sigma key will be able to restore it for him. He knew he would lose his memory once he sacrificed the matrix, and so gave it to Jack so that when the Autobots came to rescue him he could restore his memory. But still... why Jack?

Those are my theories. November 28th suddenly seems so far away.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:13 am

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jaredautobot1 wrote:I loved the backstory scene for Optimus and Megatron and how the war began.
All taken straight out of Exodus. ;)

jaredautobot1 wrote:Why would the key to Vector Sigma even be on Earth? Isn't is still on Cybertron?
We've never seen in it this continuity until now. Exodus and Exiles have only made a few passing references to Vector Sigma, but not to his key.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby YRQRM0 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:40 am

AWESOME!!!

I'm betting the key to Vector Sigma will unlock Prime's memories again. Vector sigma holds all the information right? I'm guessing this means they'll be going back to Cybertron?

I was surprised Starscream didn't show somehow here....

I hope Earth isn't all perfect at the start of season 2, they should address the whole issue of Unicron ruining everything....

Soundwave is a pro. Why doesn't he fight more often?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:00 am

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YRQRM0 wrote:I'm betting the key to Vector Sigma will unlock Prime's memories again. Vector sigma holds all the information right?
Well, we really don't know what Vector Sigma's nature is like in this universe. ;)

YRQRM0 wrote:Soundwave is a pro. Why doesn't he fight more often?
Becuase he doesn't need too? Because he's too cool to need to fight? :lol:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby RhA » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:31 am

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Shadowman wrote:
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Shadowman wrote:In fact, if you watched them work the Ground Bridge before, you'd know Optimus was lying the moment he said what it was. They've never used a key for it before, and if they did, why would Optimus take it out while they were on a mission? Easy: because he's lying.
He said it was the key to the Bridge's power supply, which, as far as we know, has never been shown before. There could still be a power supply, but no key to it.


Which is an even worse lie, because why would they need a key to that at all? Why would you need to lock up the power supply of the device you use on a daily basis?


Security measures? More humans in there on a daily basis.


I think you missed my point. It's not security measures because it's not the key to the Ground Bridge's power supply, it's the Key to Vector Sigma. My point is, if you apply a bit of logic, you could have figured out Optimus was lying the moment he told Jack what it was.


:lol: I think I did. Point taken.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby SirSoundwaveIV » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:32 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Airborne Decepticon » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:47 pm

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SirSoundwaveIV wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97uDfvsmT0M

AeonMagnus FINALLY uploaded the clip of Soundwave beating the slag out of Airachnid


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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby LadyBug » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:00 pm

Airborne Decepticon wrote:
SirSoundwaveIV wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97uDfvsmT0M

AeonMagnus FINALLY uploaded the clip of Soundwave beating the slag out of Airachnid


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Bravo, sir. Well said.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:02 pm

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She's still tied with Starscream as the best Decepticon character in the show. ;)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Airborne Decepticon » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:16 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:She's still tied with Starscream as the best Decepticon character in the show. ;)


Knock-Out has some pretty good lines though

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby RhA » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:28 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:She's still tied with Starscream as the best Decepticon character in the show. ;)


Not. Even. Close.

Airachnid is just a token evil female character, Soundwave scares the crap out of me.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby crazyjeffy » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:41 pm

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IMHO Megatron > Soundwave > Starscream > Knock-Out > Breakdown > vehicons > airachnid

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby LadyBug » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:22 pm

crazyjeffy wrote:IMHO Megatron > Soundwave > Starscream > Knock-Out > Breakdown > vehicons > airachnid

But that's just me


The only thing I would switch is the point in fact that Starscream is and always will be second-in-command of the Decepticons; even in his absences.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby crazyjeffy » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:43 pm

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The only reason Soundwave is before Starscream is because he hasn't been able to accumulate cool points in the last 6 episodes, where as that scene in episode 26 skyrocketed the quiet powerhouse's kickassometer.
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