The Energon Pub

[Sabrblade]

She's still tied with Starscream as the best Decepticon character in the show.

Not. Even. Close.

Airachnid is just a token evil female character, Soundwave scares the crap out of me.

Watch "Predatory" and "Crisscross" again. And "Partners".

Up until this point, Soundwave has done squat except be ominous. He is not cool by merit and personality (like how Airachnid and Starscream are), he is instead cool solely by atmosphere.

Besides, most of what makes him cool comes from sources outside of the show, so it isn't fair to say that he's been properly used in the show itself.

Going by just the show's portrayals, here's how great a character each Con is in a fair and justifiable measure.

Starscream & Airachnid > Knock Out > Breakdown > Soundwave > Megatron > Makeshift > Skyquake

[metanaito]

The Soundwave vs. Airachnid part of this episode was one of my favorite scenes out of the entire season. At first I didn't like the Prime version of Soundwave because he didn't talk and didn't look like the Soundwave I know, but he's still my favorite Decepticon along with Shockwave. His silence has been working though. Everytime I see him he seems more and more ominous. I'm starting to like his design too, but it reminds me of Tron.

He's done a lot of things in the series so far. As far as I can tell he is the only Decepticon that is loyal to Megatron. He also seems to be the only one that isn't entirely afraid of Megatron, but that's hard to tell since he doesn't talk. He kept Starscream in check when Megatron was gone and now he does the same to Airachnid. He also seems to be the only Decepticon that doesn't always fail.

It was cool seeing him dismantle Airachnid with so little effort. No doubt he can fight well and I hope to see him in action more, but seems like the real reason he beat her so easily is because he has freakishly long arms.

[RhA]

She's still tied with Starscream as the best Decepticon character in the show.

Not. Even. Close.

Airachnid is just a token evil female character, Soundwave scares the crap out of me.

Watch "Predatory" and "Crisscross" again. And "Partners".

Up until this point, Soundwave has done squat except be ominous. He is not cool by merit and personality (like how Airachnid and Starscream are), he is instead cool solely by atmosphere.

Besides, most of what makes him cool comes from sources outside of the show, so it isn't fair to say that he's been properly used in the show itself.

Going by just the show's portrayals, here's how great a character each Con is in a fair and justifiable measure.

Starscream & Airachnid > Knock Out > Breakdown > Soundwave > Megatron > Makeshift > Skyquake

The only stuff I know from Prime is the show itself. Up untill now I haven't seen or heard anything of it, I just knew it was there. So I can't say anything about Soundwave beyond from what I have seen in the show. What I have seen is a faceless character, does not say anything but is always there, seems to know everything and is prettuy much no-nonsense.

What I've seen from Airachnid is not much more then Blackarachnia from BW s1, with a little G1 insecticon thrown in. Not even her colors or design add anything, she's based off Blackaracnia (again), bits of Insecticon (again) and some evil Disney character. From the moment I saw the design I thought 'here we go again'.

Furthermore I said Soundwave scares me. Being scared is an emotion and cannot be objectively measured. Purely on emotion I choose Soundwave as the more awesome 'con of the two.

[Sabrblade]

What I have seen is a faceless character, does not say anything but is always there, seems to know everything and is prettuy much no-nonsense.

And that's pretty much a bare bones description of him, and yet, it is so true. Soundwave in this show has shown little to no depth of his character, resorting to having to play off other characters and rely on them to show what he's like. If he can't do that by himself, then that's not very good characterization.

What I've seen from Airachnid is not much more then Blackarachnia from BW s1, with a little G1 insecticon thrown in. Not even her colors or design add anything, she's based off Blackaracnia (again), bits of Insecticon (again) and some evil Disney character. From the moment I saw the design I thought 'here we go again'.

I have grown sick and tired of all the misdirected comparisons between Airachnid and Blackarachnia. Their personalities are nothing alike. First and foremost, Blackarachnia is a Femme Fatale, full of mystery and seduction. Airachnid, however, is a Sadist, one who relishes in the agonizing suffering of others. If she's anything like a previous character, she's more like a cross between Tarantulas and Lockdown than Blackarachnia. Being a female spider-bot does not demand that she be another Blackarachnia, and thus any comparisons made between the two are superfluous. I don't see anyone doing the same to Crystal Widow.

Furthermore I said Soundwave scares me. Being scared is an emotion and cannot be objectively measured. Purely on emotion I choose Soundwave as the more awesome 'con of the two.

And Airachnid is pure nightmare fuel, as shown in her gruesome debut episode. She's got corpses of victims all hanging from her ship. She inflicts a "Gory Discretion Shot" upon Tailgate (which she forces Arcee to watch in horror). She expresses a sick obsessive desire for Jack. She moves with the fluid swiftness of a specter. Her overall atmosphere has an air of fear and torment. Her whole characterization is basically like something out of an Alfred Hitchcock movie.

[Kiyza]

Furthermore I said Soundwave scares me. Being scared is an emotion and cannot be objectively measured. Purely on emotion I choose Soundwave as the more awesome 'con of the two.

And Airachnid is pure nightmare fuel, as shown in her gruesome debut episode. She's got corpses of victims all hanging from her ship. She inflicts a "Gory Discretion Shot" upon Tailgate (which she forces Arcee to watch in horror). She expresses a sick obsessive desire for Jack. She moves with the fluid swiftness of a specter. Her overall atmosphere has an air of fear and torment. Her whole characterization is basically like something out of an Alfred Hitchcock movie.

I think it all depends on what scares you more. They're two different kinds of scariness. Airachnid feels kind of... blunt I guess would be the right word for it. She's sickening evil, and reminiscent of Lockdown, who was almost pure nightmare fuel. But for some, what really scares them are the quiet characters because it's more difficult to tell what they're thinking and what they're going to do next. I honestly don't quite find one significantly more intimidating than the other.

[RhA]

What I have seen is a faceless character, does not say anything but is always there, seems to know everything and is prettuy much no-nonsense.

And that's pretty much a bare bones description of him, and yet, it is so true. Soundwave in this show has shown little to no depth of his character, resorting to having to play off other characters and rely on them to show what he's like. If he can't do that by himself, then that's not very good characterization.

I never said a word about liking his character, that's your train of thought. What I said about Soundwave corresponds with what scares me in, say, spiders. Dead eyes, a freakish body and never far away.

What I've seen from Airachnid is not much more then Blackarachnia from BW s1, with a little G1 insecticon thrown in. Not even her colors or design add anything, she's based off Blackaracnia (again), bits of Insecticon (again) and some evil Disney character. From the moment I saw the design I thought 'here we go again'.

I have grown sick and tired of all the misdirected comparisons between Airachnid and Blackarachnia. Their personalities are nothing alike. First and foremost, Blackarachnia is a Femme Fatale, full of mystery and seduction. Airachnid, however, is a Sadist, one who relishes in the agonizing suffering of others. If she's anything like a previous character, she's more like a cross between Tarantulas and Lockdown than Blackarachnia. Being a female spider-bot does not demand that she be another Blackarachnia, and thus any comparisons made between the two are superfluous. I don't see anyone doing the same to Crystal Widow.

You're ignoring the element in which she's not conforming to either side, like Blackarachnia. Plays out characters against each other, like Blackarachnia. Has a colors like (animated) Blackarachnia and is a very close in overall design to Blackarachnia.

Beyond that, my orginal argument for her not being the scariest one is not based on a comparison, but more on the genericness of her evil. She's is the stereotypical stray loose cannon.

Furthermore I said Soundwave scares me. Being scared is an emotion and cannot be objectively measured. Purely on emotion I choose Soundwave as the more awesome 'con of the two.

And Airachnid is pure nightmare fuel, as shown in her gruesome debut episode. She's got corpses of victims all hanging from her ship. She inflicts a "Gory Discretion Shot" upon Tailgate (which she forces Arcee to watch in horror). She expresses a sick obsessive desire for Jack. She moves with the fluid swiftness of a specter. Her overall atmosphere has an air of fear and torment. Her whole characterization is basically like something out of an Alfred Hitchcock movie.

Okay, so Hitchcock scares you more then it does me. Still an emotional argument. I'm not trying to convince you that you should objectively find Soundwave scarier. That's not up to me. I would however like to remind you that emotions cannot be rationalized, they're ingrained through cultivation of reaction and temper.

[Sabrblade]

You're ignoring the element in which she's not conforming to either side, like Blackarachnia.

What? She's a Decepticon on the Decepticon side. Just because she didn't want to serve under Megatron doesn't make her not a Con. One can belong to a faction and not serve under the command of its leader.

Plays out characters against each other, like Blackarachnia.

And Starscream. And Sideways. And Tankor. And Galvatron. And Shockwave. And Mirage. A lot of characters have pitting other characters against one another.

Has a colors like (animated) Blackarachnia and is a very close in overall design to Blackarachnia.

Beyond the spider legs and hindquarters, her design is unique and original. Plus, BA was not the first bug-like Con who's primary colors were black and purple with some gold. That title belongs to the G1 Insecticons.

Beyond that, my orginal argument for her not being the scariest one is not based on a comparison, but more on the genericness of her evil. She's is the stereotypical stray loose cannon.

And my original argument was that Airachnid (and Starscream) were better characters (not mere "images of fright") than Soundwave, who barely has any in this show.

[Zequem]

I wonder what they mean with that storyline will leave Earth at some point of season 2. Does it mean that the whole cast (minus humans, maybe...) will leave Earth, or that maybe Starscream has left Earth and gone back to wherever he's going? Or that Decepticons, now that they have Optimus, just leave Earth, leaving Autobots behind?

So many questions, so much time to season 2.

[RhA]

You're ignoring the element in which she's not conforming to either side, like Blackarachnia.

What? She's a Decepticon on the Decepticon side. Just because she didn't want to serve under Megatron doesn't make her not a Con. One can belong to a faction and not serve under the command of its leader.

This is one of the elements I mentioned, one of the many that seem to reoccur in female spider(esque) characters. A line that has it's roots in the insecticon-subgroup, but has taken a more personal role during BW in the form of Blackarachnia.

Plays out characters against each other, like Blackarachnia.

And Starscream. And Sideways. And Tankor. And Galvatron. And Shockwave. And Mirage. A lot of characters have pitting other characters against one another.

Most of which aimed for leadership of the Decepticons by overthrowing Megs, Airachnid only did so to save herself and afterwards became opportunistic. She's made no active attempt to overthrow Megatron in Prime.

Did BA do that in BW? (Serious question)

Has a colors like (animated) Blackarachnia and is a very close in overall design to Blackarachnia.

Beyond the spider legs and hindquarters, her design is unique and original. Plus, BA was not the first bug-like Con who's primary colors were black and purple with some gold. That title belongs to the G1 Insecticons.

So Insecticon + Blackarachnia + Malificent does not make Airachnid?

Beyond that, my orginal argument for her not being the scariest one is not based on a comparison, but more on the genericness of her evil. She's is the stereotypical stray loose cannon.

And my original argument was that Airachnid (and Starscream) were better characters (not mere "images of fright") than Soundwave, who barely has any in this show.

Soundwave does display a personality at points in the show, just does not verbalise his thoughts. He's screwed over Starscream and definitely favors Megatron as a leader. He's also pretty damn dutyfull, as he never denied service to Starscream, just at points where Screamer goes against the will of Megatron. Same goes for the situation with Airachnid, the point where she once again became disobedient, Soundwave stepped in. He does display character, just doesn't talk. To me, it's also the threat that seems to go out from him, a threat which materialised in the finale.

I think we both started to reply from different points of view. I like Soundwave beter for his omnipresence and lack of emotional display and devotion to the cause and you're more fond of Airachnid because of her unique stance in relation to the Decepticons.

[Sabrblade]

This is one of the elements I mentioned, one of the many that seem to reoccur in female spider(esque) characters. A line that has it's roots in the insecticon-subgroup, but has taken a more personal role during BW in the form of Blackarachnia.

Yet, it's not the case for Crystal Widow. And BotCon 2001 Arcee (who did come around and joined the Wreckers).

Did BA do that in BW? (Serious question)

Yes. She took control of Floating Island and used its power make herself almighty and in supreme control over all.

So Insecticon + Blackarachnia + Malificent does not make Airachnid?

I'm syaing Blackarachnia alone does not make Airachnid.

Soundwave does display a personality at points in the show, just does not verbalise his thoughts. He's screwed over Starscream and definitely favors Megatron as a leader. He's also pretty damn dutyfull, as he never denied service to Starscream, just at points where Screamer goes against the will of Megatron. Same goes for the situation with Airachnid, the point where she once again became disobedient, Soundwave stepped in. He does display character, just doesn't talk. To me, it's also the threat that seems to go out from him, a threat which materialised in the finale.

I think we both started to reply from different points of view. I like Soundwave beter for his omnipresence and lack of emotional display and devotion to the cause and you're more fond of Airachnid because of her unique stance in relation to the Decepticons.

Will respond to this in due time, but I'm running late for class and got to go.

*EDIT* (8 1/2 hours later).
Ack! Completley forgot about responding!

I shall now.

Soundwave does display a personality at points in the show, just does not verbalise his thoughts. He's screwed over Starscream and definitely favors Megatron as a leader. He's also pretty damn dutyfull, as he never denied service to Starscream, just at points where Screamer goes against the will of Megatron. Same goes for the situation with Airachnid, the point where she once again became disobedient, Soundwave stepped in. He does display character, just doesn't talk. To me, it's also the threat that seems to go out from him, a threat which materialised in the finale.

The thing with Soundwave is that this personality of his has been shown more with how he plays off other characters instead of carrying the scene himself. He has yet to display much of an individuated persona that doesn't rely on needing to be around others. At this point, he's like Snake Eyes and Boba Fett (when not speaking) when we first see them and haven't been fleshed out much yet. However, based on what we've heard about season 2, things look pretty promising for Soundwave.

I think we both started to reply from different points of view. I like Soundwave beter for his omnipresence and lack of emotional display and devotion to the cause and you're more fond of Airachnid because of her unique stance in relation to the Decepticons.

Oh man, after just one episode, Airachnid overthrew Starscream as my favorite 'Con of this show. She was just so sick! Though, as the show went on, Starscream caught back up to her and now the two are tied.

Soundwave, however, has been cool only in appearance and atmosphere. This act of his opposing Airachnid was his shining moment of season 1, but the sad thing about that is that it didn't come until the last episode. He had given hints of being a cool character before, but never truly followed through in them. If anything, the way Starscream interacted with him helped make Starscream look all the much cooler a character, as it help flesh out the multiple sides of Screamer's personality. At this point, however, all we've seen of Soundwave is "cold, intimidating loyalty", but not much beyond that. Hopefully we'll get more of him fleshed out in season 2. What I think wopuld be cool would be to have scenes where it's just him (and maybe Laserbeak) alone on a solo stealth mission.

[Starscream GaGa]

I wouldn't say Airachnid isn't femme-fatale, she seemed to enjoy flirting with Arcee in her homicidal way... But look at the Decepticons she has to work with: personality-deprived Soundwave, linear-minded Starscream, asexual Megatron and uber-gay Knockout, Breakdown is the only viable option!

I wouldn't mind Airachnid to be called Blackarachnia, not because she's a clone of the character, but just as a way of keeping up with traditions. I mean, look at the Animated characters: some of them aren't even close to being traditional characters personality-wise, but still keep the names as homages.

[Sabrblade]

I wouldn't say Airachnid isn't femme-fatale, she seemed to enjoy flirting with Arcee in her homicidal way...

The difference is that Airachnid's flirting wasn't a means of seduction, but rather a means of spite. She wanted to push Arcee's buttons; play her for a fool by getting her angry, rather than manipulate her.

I wouldn't mind Airachnid to be called Blackarachnia, not because she's a clone of the character, but just as a way of keeping up with traditions. I mean, look at the Animated characters: some of them aren't even close to being traditional characters personality-wise, but still keep the names as homages.

The creators said that Airachnid is meant to be her own totally separate character from Blackarachnia. They made her an homage, but wanted her to be distinguished enough to not be another Blackarachnia.

[ausbot]

I'm sick of homages, they only work when you do them sometimes. How about new characters instead of rehashing the same ones over and over! (This coming from a fan since the beginning of G1)

[Shadowman]

I'm sick of homages, they only work when you do them sometimes. How about new characters instead of rehashing the same ones over and over! (This coming from a fan since the beginning of G1)

They tried that once. It didn't work. Turns out people like familiarity, and don't like change. And they really don't like Optimus Prime being replaced.

[Sabrblade]

I'm sick of homages, they only work when you do them sometimes. How about new characters instead of rehashing the same ones over and over! (This coming from a fan since the beginning of G1)

They tried that once. It didn't work. Turns out people like familiarity, and don't like change. And they really don't like Optimus Prime being replaced.

Knock Out, Makeshift, the Vehicons, Arcee, Skyquake, and Breakdown aren't homages to previous versions of those who's name they share. They're all unique in their character and design that they're just mere cases of name recycling.

[Rodimus2006]

None of the characters of Prime are in anyway shape or form related to previous versions such as Bulkhead with Animated Bulkhead or any of the previous Optimus Primes.

Blackarachnia and Archnid are also way way diffrent as this character is more ruthless and cunning that Blackarachnia was also sort of a Bounty Hunter of sorts collecting her trophies.

Arcee is way way diffrent as this Arcee is more harcdore previous Arcees were more of a kinda of a big sister type of deal like in G1 with Arcee & Daniel then in Energon Arcee was the leader of the Omnicons.

I was watching Prime the other day to see if i could come across anything diffrent that I thought would be news worthy and I did.

During the commercial break I saw HotShot his Body was Silver sort of like Megatrons but his head looks like his Energon Counterpart.

So it is safe to say that HotShot will be in Prime could he be the new Autobot being rumored for Prime HotShot colors were Silver & Yellow when I saw him.

It showed Megatron, Optimus, BB then on the side corner for a brief flash I saw HotShot.

I enjoyed Prime cant wait for November 28th but according to Harold Camping The Rapture is going to take place tomorrow.

When are people going to realize you cant predict the end of the world and this 2012 Mayan deal is another Y2K hoax made up so they can make shows to put on the History Channel.

The only thing that has me scared is the increased Solar Activity in 2013 & 2014.

Well I preordered my Fall of Cybertron preordered it for my 360.

[Sabrblade]

None of the characters of Prime are in anyway shape or form related to previous versions such as Bulkhead with Animated Bulkhead or any of the previous Optimus Primes.

No one ever said that. We're talking about homages and different versions of characters. No one ever said that the Prime characters were the same exact people as their namesakes.

I was watching Prime the other day to see if i could come across anything diffrent that I thought would be news worthy and I did.

During the commercial break I saw HotShot his Body was Silver sort of like Megatrons but his head looks like his Energon Counterpart.

So it is safe to say that HotShot will be in Prime could he be the new Autobot being rumored for Prime HotShot colors were Silver & Yellow when I saw him.

It showed Megatron, Optimus, BB then on the side corner for a brief flash I saw HotShot.

You need more proof than mere words claiming you saw something. If Hot Shot were coming, we'd likely know by now.

[Rodimus2006]

It was during the commercials I have no way of uploading to show the proof but I know what I saw.

HotShot Silver Body with his Yellow Energon Head I saw it when I watched One Shall Rise prt. 3 during the commercial breaks.

It was a quick flash it is easy to mess if you pay attention you will see a quick glimpse of Hot Shot.

But I know what I saw I just dont have anyway of showing you the proof.

When I saw his Body is like Megatrons I mean his color his being Silver but Hot Shots Head was Yellow like his form in Transformers Energon.

So Prime body with his Energon Head is how Hot Shot will look he was in Robotic Mode not Alt.Mode.

[Diem]

I'm sick of homages, they only work when you do them sometimes. How about new characters instead of rehashing the same ones over and over! (This coming from a fan since the beginning of G1)

They tried that once. It didn't work. Turns out people like familiarity, and don't like change. And they really don't like Optimus Prime being replaced.

They tried that another time and it was incredibly successful.

[Sabrblade]

It was during the commercials I have no way of uploading to show the proof but I know what I saw.

HotShot Silver Body with his Yellow Energon Head I saw it when I watched One Shall Rise prt. 3 during the commercial breaks.

During which airing of "One Shall Rise - Part 3"? Last Saturday's, or a different airing?

If it was during last Saturday's airing, I can double check for ya since I should still have it recorded on the DVR.

[Rodimus2006]

I was watching it Wednesday about 6:30 to 7:00pm EST it was One Shall Rise prt 3. during the commercial break.

Like I said it was a really fast glimpse of HotShot but I know what I saw it was indeed HotShot.

But like I said he was in Robotic Mode not his Alt.Mode.

He was only shown once really fast other times in commercials it was the usually bunch Optimus, Megs, Arcee and BB.

HotShot was just a quick flash he was seen in the Righthand Side of the lower screen standing tall.

Sorry I have no way of providing proof of my findings.

Also I preorodered my Fall of Cybertron for my 360 currently I am replaying WFC on my PS3 in full 1080p.

I am thinking of doing a Transformers marathon of my own.

1. Watch all the series from G1 to Prime
2. Play the games movie-tie ins with DOTM
3. Watch all 3 live action films at one time

should take care of this weekend since there isnt anything on.

[Sabrblade]

Sorry I have no way of providing proof of my findings.

Well, then that makes this info useless if you can't provide any evidence beyond your word.

Plus, the fact that only you have seen it while others have not isn't helping.

Have you only seen this commercial once? How often has it aired on the Hub? Can you record it and upload to YouTube so others can see it?

We need to look into this so we can figure out what's what here.

After all, what really doesn't match up with this is that fact that Hot Shot from this show's universe is supposed to look more like Hot Rod. Here's what he looked like back on Cybertron.

[Rodimus2006]

This HotShot didnt Look like his Cybertron version I said he was more like he was in Energon but his body was Silver in Color almost like Megatron's.

I know what I saw however I dont know if HotShot will be in Prime I am trying to tell you people it is a good indication that HotShot could at least show up in Prime in a short role sort of like with WheelJack.

Also HotShot was in Robotic Mode when I saw this brief I mean very brief flash of him.

You dont believe me fine I know what I saw I have perfect 20/20 vision and I know HotShot and all is previous incarnations of him from Armada, Energon then again in Cybertron.

It wasnt Hot Rod/Rodimus he is older more mature like how he was in Animated.

This Hot Shot is about the same age I guess would be Bulkhead and Arcee is currently in Prime or could also look like WheelJack in terms of Age.

But I know he was indeed HotShot however this dosent necessarily mean that HotShot will appear in Prime but it is a good indication that Hot Shot could indeed be in Prime like I said could also be a cameo appearance.

[Sabrblade]

This HotShot didnt Look like his Cybertron version I said he was more like he was in Energon but his body was Silver in Color almost like Megatron's.

I never said he looked like his cybertro nversion. When I said "Cybertron", I was talking about the planet, not the series.

I know what I saw however I dont know if HotShot will be in Prime I am trying to tell you people it is a good indication that HotShot could at least show up in Prime in a short role sort of like with WheelJack.

Also HotShot was in Robotic Mode when I saw this brief I mean very brief flash of him.

Is it possible that you mistook someone else for him? After all, you said it was only a brief flash. Something that goes by that quick in a commercial can easily be taken for another thing. There is no shame in making minor mistakes.

You dont believe me fine I know what I saw I have perfect 20/20 vision and I know HotShot and all is previous incarnations of him from Armada, Energon then again in Cybertron.

I'm not saying I don't believe you. I'm saying that I want look into this further so that we can be sure one way or the other. I'm trying to help you.

It wasnt Hot Rod/Rodimus he is older more mature like how he was in Animated.

How could you possibly know how mature this Hot Shot is if you only saw him for a split-second? A brief flash isn't long enough to show how mature a character is.

This Hot Shot is about the same age I guess would be Bulkhead and Arcee is currently in Prime or could also look like WheelJack in terms of Age.

But I know he was indeed HotShot however this dosent necessarily mean that HotShot will appear in Prime but it is a good indication that Hot Shot could indeed be in Prime like I said could also be a cameo appearance.

That doesn't make any sense. If you saw him, then he must be in Prime. If you didn't, then he's not. There is no neutral way around this. It's either a "yes" or a "no". There is no "maybe".

[Rodimus2006]

Yes I saw HotShot I know HotShot he was one of my Favorite characters in the Unicron Trilogy and I know what he looks like even if it was a brief glimpse of what I saw I do know for a fact 100% that it was indeed HotShot.

If it was Rodimus/Hot Rod like you think it is then is color scheme would be Red & Orange as with Hot Shots it is Silver & Yellow.

Except when HotShot got upgraded in Energon his color scheme was changed.

If I had a way to upload this I would show you indeed what I saw I have it recorded and I have re-watched that commercial dozens of times to make sure what I saw was indeed HotShot and it was.

If I had a like a Ipod or something like that I can hook it up and load up the file using a USB and post my proof of what I have.

I know my transformers Saber I been with them since Day 1 since 1984 this marks my 25th Anniversary.

When it comes to certain characters such as HotShot those I love more than most I recognize them even with just a brief flash such as the commercial I saw.

I can also tell certain Transformers just with thier Alt.Modes.

If I had a way to post my recording I would gladly show you what I have but I dont have any kind of High-Tech device to upload my vid.

I appreciate you trying to help me but remember I am usually proven right a couple of weeks later on by the official source anyways.

Remember they did say a New Autobot was incoming for Prime and Wheel Jack inst a new one he would just be a returning Character recycled & reused.

But like also I said Saber just cause I saw HotShot dosent neseccarily mean he will appear in Prime they could have just thrown him up for Fan Apperciation or it could have been some sort of random mistake.

Like i say just cause I seen him dosent necessarily mean he will be in Prime I thought It would be something newsworthy or posting up cause I thought it was cool of what I found.

Also HotShot is one of my Favs.