The Energon Pub

[King Kuuga]

It can only be a flashback. There is nothing to indicate it isn't, and all the evidence says Cliffjumper is staying dead.

[ebilly99]

About Cliffjumper. A idea that has been overlooked is what if Mech were to build a fake Cliffjumper? They could use it to gain info about the autobots. It would be fitting if Arcee was the one to end the last hope of seeing Cliffjumper. It would mean she has finally moved on.

[King Kuuga]

She held Cliffjumper's dead body, saw it reanimated, and then saw that cut in half and still scream and attack mindlessly. She's subsequently had a long time to come to terms with his departure. She wouldn't believe for a minute if he just magically showed up in front of them, de-zombified and in one piece and acting like nothing ever happened.

[BeastProwl]

The question is, can they REALLY afford Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson for Cliffjumper's voice again? After hearing his voice in the promo, I doubt it.

So, to touch on the Knockout Origin topic a bit, Iv'e often had him pegged as a Stunticon. I mean, I know he's not one of the originals, and I have no proof, but what if the Stunticons are like WFC Devastator? A team of many? Knockout DID come with Breakdown, afterall.

Also, with Silas returning, dont you think it would be odd to see him interact with Knockout in Breakdown's body? And how would Megatron take this? I mean, he's not the type to just up and say "Yeah, you offed Breakdown, welcome aboard"
Nah, i'm guessing Silas will be a 1 time deal.

And as for the episode, good action, great animation, and the fighting was borderline Dragonball IMO with all the talking in between, and mini shockwaves, but really, REALLY well done fight scene.

How will wheeljack get more grenades? Looks like he dumped his whole supply back there.

And why blow up all that energon? Why not load some onto the ship, and then blow it all up? I know the autobots recently got some fresh stock, but come on, a bit of energon would have helped Bulkhead for all we know. Guess it didnt cross Jakie's mind, what with him being such a loose cannon.

Wheeljack's got some amazing swordplay. I mean, watching him fight is almost breathtaking. He's almost, elegant.

I'm going on record as saying, I loved all the little bits in this episode. I mean, things like Bumblebee's expression while they were helping Bulkhead, grabbing his chin, and his eyebrows scrunched. It was a downright human expression of thought, wich amazes me, since he doesnt have a face!

And Arcee's back and fourth with wheeljack when he answered for miko also struck me as extra effort. Little things they didnt have to add, but they did, just to add to the overall feeling of the scene. It was the little things that made this episode for me, really.

[PrymeStriker]

Shockie's VA will more likely than not be Steve Blum, if not Nolan North (which I highly doubt).

He looks so similar to FOC.





I'm ready for that Rage of Dinobots comic now.

I have a reason to put FoC Shockie on my Prime shelf. I'll just heavily repaint him with black here and there to make my very own Prime Shockwave.

[Sabrblade]

Episode 42 -

Boy, Miko's in such a good mood. She's in for a shock.

Aaaaaaand, eeyup! She's bummed.

Yay! David Kaye's sticking around for this episode.

I really like how concerned Fowler is for Bulkhead, now. The two of them hitting it off was one of the highlights of last episode.

It's not revenge he's looking for. It's justice.

Heh, Knock Out having to buff himself without Breakdown's help.

Y'know, Jackie, the Autobots could have used that energon.

I'm guessing someone's gonna die in this episode. Or if not, the end result had better be decent.

Totally saw Miko activating the Jackhammer's weaponry.

That's right. Miko just killed David Kaye. Well, at least he lasted till his second episode.

So... Bulkhead will survive, but may never be fully functional again. Honestly... that's probably the best route this show can go with him. Keep him alive to keep the opportunity to further his backstory, but at a price so as to create a dramatic turn of events for the Autobots. Good.

Wait, who's voicing that other Insecticon?

Now Megatron has a personal dislike for all three of the Autobots' human teen allies. Jack for their encounter at the cave, Raf for the events between the two of them during "Out of His Head", and Miko for killing Hardshell.

Oh, James Horan voiced that Insecticon.

Hmm... what to say about this episode? For starters, it was almost everything I expected it would be. I knew either Wheeljack or Hardshell was going to die, so that's that. The only surprise came at the end when Bulkhead didn't die but remained in stasis lock. I did like how Miko was used competently (or as competnetly as she could be considering that it's Miko), but even her offing Hardshell with the Jackhammer didn't come as a surprise to me. All in all, a slightly-above-average episode.

Next week... SHOCKWAVE!

[Rodimus2006]

More goes on but more questions remain, great action, great mysteries this is what makes this if not the best Transformers series ever. And We still have no clue on what is in store for S3 which characters or what S3 story arc will be about such as S2 is about the Hunt for Iacon Relics.

I would love to see some of the Original 13 Primes in it could they have survived are they all dead. Remember the Fallen is Original 13 also 1st Decpticon so good but small chance others could have survived. But more than likely flash-backs only.

Me I love it makes me want more episodes not many shows can do this well Falling Skies did but it ended with another cliffhanger and will not return until 2013. But for now I can enjoy S2 which ends in Nov.

My guess on S3 it will begin in Early Q1st with a few episodes such as Jan then go on break then return early spring say March.

For now I wanna learn more on Cliff what is going to happen to Bulk will they take him offline or leave him like that.

Will Jackie be the new Team Prime memember or someone we didnt expect Also Silas/Breakdown and Megatron interaction is what I wanan see the most.

[King Kuuga]

Shockie's VA will more likely than not be Steve Blum, if not Nolan North (which I highly doubt).

He looks so similar to FOC.


I have a reason to put FoC Shockie on my Prime shelf. I'll just heavily repaint him with black here and there to make my very own Prime Shockwave.

I was already keeping him on my Prime shelf. And I think the similarity to FOC is intentional, since they want one toy and only one toy of him for now.

[PrymeStriker]

Shockie's VA will more likely than not be Steve Blum, if not Nolan North (which I highly doubt).

He looks so similar to FOC.


I have a reason to put FoC Shockie on my Prime shelf. I'll just heavily repaint him with black here and there to make my very own Prime Shockwave.

I was already keeping him on my Prime shelf. And I think the similarity to FOC is intentional, since they want one toy and only one toy of him for now.

But of course, I'll have to paint his chest black. Once I see the rest of Shockwave I'll have my makeover planned out to make him the perfect Prime Shockwave.

Then I'll have to actually FIND a Shockwave.

[King Kuuga]

My guess on S3 it will begin in Early Q1st with a few episodes such as Jan then go on break then return early spring say March.

I'm fairly certain that this year is the pattern that TF Prime is going to follow in seasons to come. Premiere in mid-February, run until mid-May, 3 month break, return in late August and conclude in late October. Rinse, wash, repeat. Last year was unprecedented because they were producing the show on the fly. Now they've got their act together and can air it on a more regular schedule.

[PrymeStriker]

Me I love it makes me want more episodes not many shows can do this well Falling Skies did but it ended with another cliffhanger and will not return until 2013. But for now I can enjoy S2 which ends in Nov.

Where did you learn that Season 2 will end in November? We have no idea when Season 2 will end. We know there are 26 episodes, but at the same time, there's no guarantee about that said date. Sure, if you keep up the "every Friday" pace, it will end on November 2nd, but who's to say they won't take another break, or cram the last 3 episodes into one Friday? You can never be certain.

My guess on S3 it will begin in Early Q1st with a few episodes such as Jan then go on break then return early spring say March.

Unless they pick up their tradition of starting their seasons every February.

For now I wanna learn more on Cliff what is going to happen to Bulk will they take him offline or leave him like that.

It's more likely than not to be a flashback. Cliffjumper was filled with Dark Energon, split in half, and kicked off a cliff before the whole joint exploded on him.

I doubt he'd come out of the blue and say "I'm back." Unless the Autobots stabilized Cliffjumper like the Decepticons did Megatron (which is only assuming he survived the blast like Megatron ).

Basically, Bulkhead is handicapped. He's only surviving through a coma, similar to Megatron. I'm hoping he dies off so new muscle can come in.

Will Jackie be the new Team Prime memember or someone we didnt expect Also Silas/Breakdown and Megatron interaction is what I wanan see the most.

[YRQRM0]

They took the direction I was hoping for. Hopefully Bulkhead will be able to speak, maybe not even through his own mouth, like a monitor or something. That could bring some great moments.

Miko using the hammer to kill Hardshell was expected, and fine. I'm not too excited for a flashback episode though....

[Sabrblade]

Someone on The Allspark pointed out that next week's episodes looks an awful lot like the prequel Prime graphic novel plus Shockwave thrown in.

[Noideaforaname]

Aw, no more David Kaye...

I kinda wish they just flat out killed Bulkhead. Not really liking him being out but still sorta being a part, if mostly because I'm dreading "reborn in a totally different body for some reason" thing the Unicron Trilogy did a lot. *shrug* We'll just see how this season goes.

- The whole atmosphere of the "hospital" scenes (defibrillator, Arcee and BB somehow carrying Bulhead, the mryiad beeping things)... *shudder*
- "You keep me posted." Small bit, but adds a LOT of character to Fowler.
- Megatron is rather pleasant on the phone, considering it's, well, Megatron.
- "This was so much easier with Breakdown!" Haha!
- "Power down" - I love how nonchalantly Wheeljack applied this to humans
- Wheeljack-Hardshell fight = awesome
- I wonder if all the Insecticons are dead now
- Megatron's face at the end = priceless
- I guess Miko's going to have an even bigger part in this series...
- Not really liking how FoC-ish Shockwave looks

I want a Hardshell toy more than ever now.

[Foxbear]

Someone on The Allspark pointed out that next week's episodes looks an awful lot like the prequel Prime graphic novel plus Shockwave thrown in.

There are definite similarities. I read the GN and it would make a decent episode.

A though; "Hurt" made a pretty big deal about Arcee specifically comforting Miko. Perhaps the next episode will be Arcee recounting the tales of how she came to be on Earth and general stories about Cliffjumper. Sort of a shared mourning over losing partners.

[PrymeStriker]

Someone on The Allspark pointed out that next week's episodes looks an awful lot like the prequel Prime graphic novel plus Shockwave thrown in.

It would be awesome if this is an animated version of the Prime comic. The only reason I say that is, in that case, we'd most likely see Breakdown too!





As long as we see Shockwave in present day affairs, I don't care if this is a flashback episode.

[TheBossII]

I don't think this is gonna be a flashback episode (out of the past). I think shockwave brings back cliffjumper in hopes of destroying the autobots using him. Only one more week until we find out!

[Shadowman]

Shockie's VA will more likely than not be Steve Blum, if not Nolan North (which I highly doubt).

He looks so similar to FOC.

The show and the games both just reused his G1 design, so it's not like this was an intentional shout-out to the games. Shockwave has had even less variation in his designs through the ages than Optimus has.

[Archanubis]

So the question is, is Cliffjumper's "return" part of a flashback on Arcee's part, or has Shockwave been his "mad scientist" self? Somehow, I doubt there was much of Cliff left after that Energon mine explosion in the 5-part pilot to warrant a complete resurrection.

[Rodimus2006]

I have my theory - Remember Decipticons also have Cloning Technology if you remember G1 such as Megatron cloning Optimus Prime and trying to lure the Autobots into a trap only having the real OP return and then they had to decide which OP was real and which was fake.

Then in Beast Wars Megatron made a perfect clone of Dinobot.

So there could be ways to bring back Cliff, but it wouldnt be the same Cliff but a tool for the Decipticons to trick the Autobots or lure them into some kinda of trap.

Shockwave is a scientist so there is no telling what is going on with his sick-mind. But you can never tell with Prime if it is Flash-Back episode or current time unknown. We have to wait a whole week to find out.

I am more curious on to finding out about this new Decipticon Weapon what it is, Is it something old they found on another World or is it something they Made. Capbable of Destroying the Autobots means it is going to be a WMD of some sorts either something small or something enormus. Meaning it will be well hidden.

I hate this suspense as I wanna learn about Cliff before my head explodes, is this the real deal Cliff, or is is this a Decipticon trap, or is this a Flash-Back episodes. These are the only explanations for Cliff another one could be Time. Remember sometimes in Transformers they play with time or something goes screwy with the Space Time Continuum such as G1 did.

Unknown we will find out next week for now I am back to playing FOC on my PS3 currently on Autobot Campaign.

[BeastProwl]

Come on people. Its a flashback. This turn of events would be illogical.

[PrymeStriker]

Come on people. Its a flashback. This turn of events would be illogical.

And it would defy their motto:

"Once we kill a character, we kill a character"

This is the very reason Bulkhead still "lives," so they can bring him back later.

And the very reason Breakdown will never be Breakdown again, but some Silas project (literally).

[BeastProwl]

I just read the prequel comic. Shifting art styles aside, good stuff.
But there's something that's getting to me. How did they get the nemesis to earth exactly? It looked like only Starscream made it through the Space Bridge. I must have missed something. Is there a part two to this thing? Because I never saw Soundwave or Megatron.

[PrymeStriker]

I just read the prequel comic. Shifting art styles aside, good stuff.
But there's something that's getting to me. How did they get the nemesis to earth exactly? It looked like only Starscream made it through the Space Bridge. I must have missed something. Is there a part two to this thing? Because I never saw Soundwave or Megatron.

Because Soundwave & Megatron aren't in it. It's just Starscream & Breakdown, with Vehicons.

[njb902]

anyone else notice megatron's eyes were red again. animation mistake or is he off the "juice" currently?

awesome episode. loved and hated the sound wheeljack made as he hobbled in at the end.