The Energon Pub

[PrymeStriker]

Awesomeness. I love the Prime cartoon because it is very mature and child approved at the same time!

I beg your pardon?



It's very dark.

He means it's very dark and yet still suitable for kids, like Batman TAS.

I was just baffled by the fact that he said it was "mature." I don't believe it's anything over PG or PG-13 (even though it's TV-Y7...or something). So I corrected him by saying it was dark rather than mature.

We don't need an Arcee stripper any time soon.

What? No man! I just meant that it was a bit darker than what is airing nowadays! P.S. How can a robot strip!?

Anyways, I always thought that Breakdown's face looked like Demolisher's, it has that one eye thing.

MECH took Breakdown's shirt off.



Your mind = blown?

[Justanormalguy]

Awesomeness. I love the Prime cartoon because it is very mature and child approved at the same time!

I beg your pardon?



It's very dark.

He means it's very dark and yet still suitable for kids, like Batman TAS.

I was just baffled by the fact that he said it was "mature." I don't believe it's anything over PG or PG-13 (even though it's TV-Y7...or something). So I corrected him by saying it was dark rather than mature.

We don't need an Arcee stripper any time soon.

What? No man! I just meant that it was a bit darker than what is airing nowadays! P.S. How can a robot strip!?

Anyways, I always thought that Breakdown's face looked like Demolisher's, it has that one eye thing.

MECH took Breakdown's shirt off.



Your mind = blown?

My mind is blown.

[King Kuuga]

I was just baffled by the fact that he said it was "mature." I don't believe it's anything over PG or PG-13 (even though it's TV-Y7...or something). So I corrected him by saying it was dark rather than mature.

We don't need an Arcee stripper any time soon.

Mature is not the same as dark, and it's not the same as "adult". What you're describing is "adult". "Mature" is "not making fart jokes and butt jokes and not having every character be a Spongebob expy", but rather, telling a good story in a way that doesn't talk down to the audience.

[PrymeStriker]

I was just baffled by the fact that he said it was "mature." I don't believe it's anything over PG or PG-13 (even though it's TV-Y7...or something). So I corrected him by saying it was dark rather than mature.

We don't need an Arcee stripper any time soon.

Mature is not the same as dark, and it's not the same as "adult". What you're describing is "adult". "Mature" is "not making fart jokes and butt jokes and not having every character be a Spongebob expy", but rather, telling a good story in a way that doesn't talk down to the audience.

Seriously, though. I thought this conversation ended 2 pages ago. Nobody wants to talk about the possiblity that Jazz is dead?

A thought just occurred to me.

Remember in Out of the Past when Cliffjumper says "I know what you're going through. Really, I do. About Tailgate."

Well, in FoC, Jazz & Cliffjumper are partners, right? So if Cliffjumper knows what Arcee is going through, perhaps Jazz was killed at some point in time. I don't know how well that would fit into the continuity, probably atrociously, but the thought just came to me a few moments ago.

[Sabrblade]

I would call Breakdown getting dissected, TC Cliffjumper getting multilated, and some of the violence involving Airachnid being way darker than Batman: TAS ever was. Sure it's all happening to robots, but robot gore is still gore, nonetheless. These aren't mere machines, but lifeforms in and of themselves. If I had a child, there are definitely certain episodes I wouldn't let him/her watch until I knew he/she could bear it without being too disturbed by them.

[King Kuuga]

It's funny what you can get away with when it's not humans you're doing it to.

[Sabrblade]

It's funny what you can get away with when it's not humans you're doing it to.

Only if it's for Western television. somehow, Japanese TF cartoons were immune to this, willingly permitting characters to be tortured and murdered onscreen. Not even a harmless little puppy was spared from the wrath of the Destrons.

[PrymeStriker]

It's funny what you can get away with when it's not humans you're doing it to.

Only if it's for Western television. somehow, Japanese TF cartoons were immune to this, willingly permitting characters to be tortured and murdered onscreen. Not even a harmless little puppy was spared from the wrath of the Destrons.

[King Kuuga]

Yes, well, different culture, different standards of what's appropriate for children. That's a different issue entirely.

[Shadowman]

I would call Breakdown getting dissected, TC Cliffjumper getting multilated, and some of the violence involving Airachnid being way darker than Batman: TAS ever was. Sure it's all happening to robots, but robot gore is still gore, nonetheless. These aren't mere machines, but lifeforms in and of themselves. If I had a child, there are definitely certain episodes I wouldn't let him/her watch until I knew he/she could bear it without being too disturbed by them.

Does a guy having half his face melted off and becoming a homicidal maniac not count? Or when Joker beats his girlfriend before throwing her out of a window? (The same episode making it excessively clear the two are in a sexual relationship) Batman: TAS got away with a hell of a lot more than Prime ever could.

Sure it's all happening to robots, but robot gore is still gore, nonetheless.

Actually, no, Robo-gore is considered much safer than organic-gore. It's the reason War for Cybertron is rated T for Teen, but Mortal Kombat is rated M. Or why they're allowed to show it on kids shows.

[Bubbah]

Seriously, though. I thought this conversation ended 2 pages ago. Nobody wants to talk about the possiblity that Jazz is dead?

A thought just occurred to me.

Remember in Out of the Past when Cliffjumper says "I know what you're going through. Really, I do. About Tailgate."

Well, in FoC, Jazz & Cliffjumper are partners, right? So if Cliffjumper knows what Arcee is going through, perhaps Jazz was killed at some point in time. I don't know how well that would fit into the continuity, probably atrociously, but the thought just came to me a few moments ago.

Damn, must've missed this one! Nice idea dude. That actually would make a lot of sense and fit together fairly well. Although there seems to be a resurgance with Jazz lately so I'm not sure Hasbro would be killing him off. I'd like to think he's alive & well, but it's a great idea to think about and a definite possibility.

[PrymeStriker]

Seriously, though. I thought this conversation ended 2 pages ago. Nobody wants to talk about the possiblity that Jazz is dead?

A thought just occurred to me.

Remember in Out of the Past when Cliffjumper says "I know what you're going through. Really, I do. About Tailgate."

Well, in FoC, Jazz & Cliffjumper are partners, right? So if Cliffjumper knows what Arcee is going through, perhaps Jazz was killed at some point in time. I don't know how well that would fit into the continuity, probably atrociously, but the thought just came to me a few moments ago.

Damn, must've missed this one! Nice idea dude. That actually would make a lot of sense and fit together fairly well. Although there seems to be a resurgance with Jazz lately so I'm not sure Hasbro would be killing him off. I'd like to think he's alive & well, but it's a great idea to think about and a definite possibility.

We know Jazz is alive in Exiles (the sequel to FoC). So I'm wondering if he dies somewhere between Exiles and Prime, which (again) would explain how Cliffjumper "knows what Arcee is going through."

[Bubbah]

Seriously, though. I thought this conversation ended 2 pages ago. Nobody wants to talk about the possiblity that Jazz is dead?

A thought just occurred to me.

Remember in Out of the Past when Cliffjumper says "I know what you're going through. Really, I do. About Tailgate."

Well, in FoC, Jazz & Cliffjumper are partners, right? So if Cliffjumper knows what Arcee is going through, perhaps Jazz was killed at some point in time. I don't know how well that would fit into the continuity, probably atrociously, but the thought just came to me a few moments ago.

Damn, must've missed this one! Nice idea dude. That actually would make a lot of sense and fit together fairly well. Although there seems to be a resurgance with Jazz lately so I'm not sure Hasbro would be killing him off. I'd like to think he's alive & well, but it's a great idea to think about and a definite possibility.

We know Jazz is alive in Exiles (the sequel to FoC). So I'm wondering if he dies somewhere between Exiles and Prime, which (again) would explain how Cliffjumper "knows what Arcee is going through."

I certainly hope he's not haha ... But it's a possibility. Wonder if that would be used as a plot driver for either a third book or a third game (which is hopefully going to happen!)

[PrymeStriker]

Looks like we have a winner.



I just hope this means we'll get Prowl in the future.

[Justanormalguy]

I was just baffled by the fact that he said it was "mature." I don't believe it's anything over PG or PG-13 (even though it's TV-Y7...or something). So I corrected him by saying it was dark rather than mature.

We don't need an Arcee stripper any time soon.

Mature is not the same as dark, and it's not the same as "adult". What you're describing is "adult". "Mature" is "not making fart jokes and butt jokes and not having every character be a Spongebob expy", but rather, telling a good story in a way that doesn't talk down to the audience.

Seriously, though. I thought this conversation ended 2 pages ago. Nobody wants to talk about the possiblity that Jazz is dead?

A thought just occurred to me.

Remember in Out of the Past when Cliffjumper says "I know what you're going through. Really, I do. About Tailgate."

Well, in FoC, Jazz & Cliffjumper are partners, right? So if Cliffjumper knows what Arcee is going through, perhaps Jazz was killed at some point in time. I don't know how well that would fit into the continuity, probably atrociously, but the thought just came to me a few moments ago.

No! Not Jazz! Also poor Spongebob, he's awesome.

[Justanormalguy]

Looks like we have a winner.



I just hope this means we'll get Prowl in the future.

Woo! Smokescreen is an original choice. I hope he dosen't die so quick.

[Twitchythe3rd]

By the sound of the preview clip, it's Nolan North providing the voice.

[nikkinavarro]

I have Just noticed something. What happened to Jacks mom? After the episodes Orion Pax I haven't seen her at all. Anyone know?

[PrymeStriker]

I have Just noticed something. What happened to Jacks mom? After the episodes Orion Pax I haven't seen her at all. Anyone know?

Nope. She's not that important anymore anyway.

[nikkinavarro]

And also I was right about smokescreen. I'm so happy he's there. He better not die or leave right away.

[PrymeStriker]

And also I was right about smokescreen. I'm so happy he's there. He better not die or leave right away.

They never use an animation model just once. He'll be sticking around for a while. Besides, we need a replacement for Bulkhead in the field.

[Sabrblade]

They never use an animation model just once.

Except for Makeshift's. Though it was cast in shadow, it was still an original design.

[PrymeStriker]

They never use an animation model just once.

Except for Makeshift's. Though it was cast in shadow, it was still an original design.

I don't think Makeshift moved very much. Did he?

[Sabrblade]

They never use an animation model just once.

Except for Makeshift's. Though it was cast in shadow, it was still an original design.

I don't think Makeshift moved very much. Did he?

Not much, yes, but we did see his body starter to shape-shift.

[PrymeStriker]

They never use an animation model just once.

Except for Makeshift's. Though it was cast in shadow, it was still an original design.

I don't think Makeshift moved very much. Did he?

Not much, yes, but we did see his body starter to shape-shift.

From a distance, Makeshift's shadow looked like Knock Out. When the camera was closer to him it seemed to be distinct. I'm sure Makeshift's "animation shadow" was used later. Maybe as a "Prime," or maybe we'll see it again in the future. I know it costs money to make those animation models, so they wouldn't use something like that just once.