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Sabrblade wrote:Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...
But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.
And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.
But there were more animals on Cybertron before it went dark. The Well created a whole bunch during the Age of Evolution. And after the planet was dead, they couldn't survive anymore.NuclearConvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...
But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.
And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.
Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.
If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.
Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:But there were more animals on Cybertron before it went dark. The Well created a whole bunch during the Age of Evolution. And after the planet was dead, they couldn't survive anymore.NuclearConvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...
But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.
And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.
Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.
If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.
Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.
And not all of the Decepticons in this show have been said to be full on animals. Steeljaw's only wolf aspects are his head and tail. The rest of his body is like any ordinary bipedal Cybertronian.
And some of them might not even originally be from Cybertron. Like Hammerstrike, for instance. Though he was on Cybertron at some previous point, his being a Sharkticon means that he (or his ancestry) would have to have originally been from Aquatron, the Sharkticons' homeworld.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Or owned the copy right/trade mark for.Dead Metal wrote: just know that the term Sharkticon is something that's old and popular and went with that.
Possibly. I think this is a really good point. I understand peoples disappointment and desire to have a consistent continuity. After being a die hard Star Wars (and TFs for that matter) fan for so long I think I have just learned to except inconsistency, fill in the blanks with head canon, and forget the existing things that don't work for me.NuclearConvoy wrote:Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Dead Metal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But there were more animals on Cybertron before it went dark. The Well created a whole bunch during the Age of Evolution. And after the planet was dead, they couldn't survive anymore.NuclearConvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...
But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.
And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.
Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.
If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.
Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.
And not all of the Decepticons in this show have been said to be full on animals. Steeljaw's only wolf aspects are his head and tail. The rest of his body is like any ordinary bipedal Cybertronian.
And some of them might not even originally be from Cybertron. Like Hammerstrike, for instance. Though he was on Cybertron at some previous point, his being a Sharkticon means that he (or his ancestry) would have to have originally been from Aquatron, the Sharkticons' homeworld.
You're putting too much thought into this Sabre, nobody on this show knows or cares about what the Covenant says, just like the author of the Covenant didn't care about what everything else in the universe was doing.
They have ideas for something, and they will execute them pre-established continuity or rules be damned. So no, they likely don't know about Sharkticons originating from Aquatron in Aligned, they just know that the term Sharkticon is something that's old and popular and went with that. Same logic behind Grimlock or anything else in this show, or any other part of this "Continuity".
A shame, because had the show not been sold to us as part of Aligned and the sequel to Prime, I would have enjoyed the humor in this.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me.Shadowman wrote:Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?
Hasbro specifically said it was going to be a new timeline for all TF productions going forward. War for Cybertron was the first of the entries into it, followed by Prime. The problem is that there was no real communication between High Moon Studios and Hasbro Studios, so it was rife with continuity errors. They patched this up in season 2 and Fall of Cybertron, with more apparent links between the two. And now RID dropped a cherry bomb in that toilet and we've moved back behind square one.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
The War for Cybertron video game, the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron one-shot comic, the Prime comic, the Prime cartoon, the Exiles novel, the Rescue Bots cartoon, the Fall of Cybertron comics, the Fall of Cybertron video game, the Rage of the Dinobots comics, the Beast Hunters comics, the Covenant of Primus book, the Retribution novel, the Rise of Dark Spark video game, and the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon.Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The War for Cybertron video game, the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron one-shot comic, the Prime comic, the Prime cartoon, the Exiles novel, the Rescue Bots cartoon, the Fall of Cybertron comics, the Fall of Cybertron video game, the Rage of the Dinobots comics, the Beast Hunters comics, the Covenant of Primus book, the Retribution novel, the Rise of Dark Spark video game, and the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon.Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?
Cool. I like that Rescue Bots fits in there.Sabrblade wrote:The War for Cybertron video game, the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron one-shot comic, the Prime comic, the Prime cartoon, the Exiles novel, the Rescue Bots cartoon, the Fall of Cybertron comics, the Fall of Cybertron video game, the Rage of the Dinobots comics, the Beast Hunters comics, the Covenant of Primus book, the Retribution novel, the Rise of Dark Spark video game, and the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon.Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
NuclearConvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The War for Cybertron video game, the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron one-shot comic, the Prime comic, the Prime cartoon, the Exiles novel, the Rescue Bots cartoon, the Fall of Cybertron comics, the Fall of Cybertron video game, the Rage of the Dinobots comics, the Beast Hunters comics, the Covenant of Primus book, the Retribution novel, the Rise of Dark Spark video game, and the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon.Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?
I have only been exposed to the Prime cartoon and the RID15 cartoon. I want to play the games (WFC/FOC) but haven't found them yet.
And, honestly, I don't really care if this series is actually connected to anything else or not. It just seems to me like they want it to be a sequel to Prime (Optimus is dead, Bumblebee talks again etc.) but have sort of made a lot of it incompatible with Prime. Also, the combat in this show seems a bit weird, considering the Prime cartoon and the bay-verse movies have tried desperately to make the TFs all have built in weapon systems and then *poof* everyone has to carry pistols (terribly designed ones at that) or "Decepticon Hunters" etc.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:It all just ends in fist fights anyway, and I think there is more proof that this is children's programing.
Very True. But I think they are really trying to under play weapons all together in this show. The only Charactor with a gun is Strongarm, and she is a police officer. But I have yet to see her do much other than point it at a con before they kick her in the chest and disarm her.NuclearConvoy wrote:Cobotron wrote:It all just ends in fist fights anyway, and I think there is more proof that this is children's programing.
That's no excuse for lazy design.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
kaijuguy19 wrote:Dead Metal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But there were more animals on Cybertron before it went dark. The Well created a whole bunch during the Age of Evolution. And after the planet was dead, they couldn't survive anymore.NuclearConvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...
But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.
And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.
Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.
If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.
Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.
And not all of the Decepticons in this show have been said to be full on animals. Steeljaw's only wolf aspects are his head and tail. The rest of his body is like any ordinary bipedal Cybertronian.
And some of them might not even originally be from Cybertron. Like Hammerstrike, for instance. Though he was on Cybertron at some previous point, his being a Sharkticon means that he (or his ancestry) would have to have originally been from Aquatron, the Sharkticons' homeworld.
You're putting too much thought into this Sabre, nobody on this show knows or cares about what the Covenant says, just like the author of the Covenant didn't care about what everything else in the universe was doing.
They have ideas for something, and they will execute them pre-established continuity or rules be damned. So no, they likely don't know about Sharkticons originating from Aquatron in Aligned, they just know that the term Sharkticon is something that's old and popular and went with that. Same logic behind Grimlock or anything else in this show, or any other part of this "Continuity".
A shame, because had the show not been sold to us as part of Aligned and the sequel to Prime, I would have enjoyed the humor in this.
Don't you think you're just jumping to conclusions too quickly? We're only 9 episodes into the series so we still have plenty of time to see how RID15 connects to the algined universe assuming that it won't get canned. Also you can't assume the writers don't know or care about the pre-established continuity without any proof to back it up with. As for the tone of the series why is having it more light hearted such a bad thing? Isn't it better that Hasbro keeps bringing more vareity into their shows? If they all retain the same general tone people will get bored real quick.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
During the live Twitter session with the RID creators that occurred during the U.S. premiere of RID, people were asking the creators questions about the show and the creators were answering them. HOWEVER, several people asked Ms. Scott specifically about Grimlock in this show and what, if any, connection he might or might not have to the already established FOC Grimlock whom Ms. Scott wrote into the Prime cartoon world via the comics, and while she answered other questions, those particular ones were dodged, given no answer, as though she wasn't permitted to speak of the matter at this time, possibly suggesting something pertaining to this to come in the future.Dead Metal wrote:This show is by the same people that worked on Prime and the aligned comics. Scott even made a name for herself writing the Dinobot centric comics, which were supposedly their way of including the Dinobots in the cartoon cannon. Yet is there any sign here? Nobody knows who Grimlock is? Not even BB or Sideswipe who faught alongside him during the war?
Well, like I said before, Rescue Bots is still in continuity with Prime, happening simultaneous to it, and it's bright and uplifting all the time.Dead Metal wrote:Yes the tonal shift is a problem, I'm not saying this show has to be as grimdark as Prime, but it just feels far too disconnected. Prime took itself seriously and didn't have stuff like robots with muscles. It had its fair share of fun and comedy, and light heartedness, but this is too far removed from Prime. This is like billing the original TMNT show as a sequel to the 2002 series.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Yes. The two shows occur simultaneous to one another. Optimus is a guest star in Rescue Bots, so he's not always in that show and only shows up occasionally, since he's over in Prime fighting the Decepticons most of the time.NuclearConvoy wrote:Is the Optimus of Rescue Bots the same one from Prime?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yes. The two shows occur simultaneous to one another. Optimus is a guest star in Rescue Bots, so he's not always in that show and only shows up occasionally, since he's over in Prime fighting the Decepticons most of the time.NuclearConvoy wrote:Is the Optimus of Rescue Bots the same one from Prime?
He scanned the form in the first episode of the third season of Rescue Bots for a mission that called for him to do so, but after having severe difficulty controlling that mode, it's become a nuisance to him and not a form he likes to assume anymore.NuclearConvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yes. The two shows occur simultaneous to one another. Optimus is a guest star in Rescue Bots, so he's not always in that show and only shows up occasionally, since he's over in Prime fighting the Decepticons most of the time.NuclearConvoy wrote:Is the Optimus of Rescue Bots the same one from Prime?
How is he also a Dinobot?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
NuclearConvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...
But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.
And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.
Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.
If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.
Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.
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