They did a short RiD series and it was super fun, I wish they'd given it any sort of push at all. It had Team Prime! And Steve!ZeroWolf wrote:See they could have tried it again by asking IDW to put out a cyberverse comic, but given its more kid friendly inbuilt nature, I don't think the comic would survive. Maybe they could attempt it with what ever follows Cyberverse.
o.supreme wrote:But on a side note, not to step on anyone's personal preference, but... I don't quite understand how anyone could purposely choose NOT to watch the original Transformers series, at least a few episodes if nothing else. I mean, to me it would be like calling yourself a Star Wars fan, and never having seen the original film, or a Star Trek fan and never having seen the Original TV series...
Again, I'm not saying people have to like it, but the thing that started the franchise deserves that respect. I mean when Gundam Wing first came on Toonami in 2000, and everyone when batshit crazy for it, I was in a real hurry to see the original series form 1979. I actually had the 3 serialized films that had been released on VHS (as well as 0080 & 0083), but I really wanted to see that original series in full to put things in perspective. To this day, while it's not my favorite Gundam series, it is easily in my top 5, and am glad I was able to see it early on before most of the series that came after it.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I wouldn't say to a Spider-Man fan of the new films and video game to watch the 60's "cartoon" or that they must read Amazing Fantasy #15. When it comes to Transformers, as one reading the Definitive G1 Collection, I wouldn't recommend a new fan reading the Marvel series either.
I'd agree with that all the way. Maybe add the pilot episode(s) on top, but yeah, for most fans this is going to give a taste of what that was all about.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To anyone looking into G1 via cartoons, I always point to The Movie. It sums up everything you need to know with good action, decent characters, superior animation and a straight forward story.
ScottyP wrote:
I can't imagine starting out with Transformers in 2018 and planning to experience all of it. At best, someone would get done with that around 2030 but most folks would probably burn out before hitting G2. Imagine watching all of the American cartoon, Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Zone, reading all of the comics (US and UK, maybe some manga too), heck even going through tech specs. That sounds like an absolute chore and I love most of that material.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I went back and gave it a chance. The Movie is as good as Sunbow got ('overall story' is a kind appraisal, also) and although the Marvel UK Transformers comics are at least readable, there is nothing there that would enhance the series for a new fan 30 years later.
What could a new fan positively gain by reading Carwash of Doom?
I never have watched (and probably never will watch) G1.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:There are many out there that think nothing more of Transformers than what Bayformers portrayed.
o.supreme wrote:Also while Transformers may be able to exist without Optimus and Megatron, you really can't have He-Man without the titular character, the same with pretty much any self-titled fiction. Change can also be bad. Remember when He-Man went into space? yeah "New Adventures"...not really liked by anyone.
o.supreme wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:There are many out there that think nothing more of Transformers than what Bayformers portrayed.
Which is sad.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yet the last series of He-Man returned it to it's "roots", appealed to it's original fanbase and what happened? Cancelled and gone. Because...
Carwash of Doom was a US story!AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I went back and gave it a chance. The Movie is as good as Sunbow got ('overall story' is a kind appraisal, also) and although the Marvel UK Transformers comics are at least readable, there is nothing there that would enhance the series for a new fan 30 years later.
What could a new fan positively gain by reading Carwash of Doom?
ScottyP wrote:It was very worthwhile to go back and experience that material, almost made it like G1 comics were new again.
o.supreme wrote:But that's the whole flaw...why does an animated series have to live/die by toy sales at all? This ISN'T the 80's anymore...So many other shows aren't held to that restriction, yet they last for years. 2002 MOTU was by far one of the greatest animated series of this century, it's premature ending was a travesty of justice.
ScottyP wrote:Carwash of Doom was a US story!
ScottyP wrote:I actually didn't read any Transformers UK until about two years ago. The early (but post-"Man of Iron") stuff really fleshed out the US stories and provided some fun adventures for characters loke Brawn and the Dinobots. Some of the "epics" like Target: 2006 and Time Wars are fantastic, not to mention the enjoyment Death's Head adds to anything he's in! It was very worthwhile to go back and experience that material, almost made it like G1 comics were new again.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote: It is how that industry works.
Allow me to step in and answer this, speaking as one who entered this brand via Beast Wars and never got to read the Marvel run until he was 20-21.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To what end? What does a fan of today who, for example, jumped on to Transformers through the award winning Beast Wars or Transformers Prime, let alone the pinnacle of IDWverse (IMO) Last Stand of The Wreckers, gain by reading the Marvel run?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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