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News Credits: 21 · by **dragons** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:46 pm

im not making fun of the movie designs but i finally hit what movie arcee face looked to me heres what i mean

if the image is big im sorry are they related you decide?

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:28 pm

Nope

News Credits: 2 · by **Justicity** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:17 pm

Don't see it...

News Credits: 2 · by **Tekka** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:20 pm

I don't think that particular one is correct, but I have no doubt they draw creative inspiration from elsewhere. I couldn't say where for sure though.

News Credits: 2 · by **Justicity** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:50 am

Tekka wrote:I don't think that particular one is correct, but I have no doubt they draw creative inspiration from elsewhere. I couldn't say where for sure though.

Just for the fun of it, PiCs oR iT dIdnT HapPeN! LOL!

Hehe, seriously, I don't see what you mean, if you can't think of any particular cases then your point is a weak one.
Of course SOMETHING influenced them, you'd be surprised just how few ideas are genuinely 100% original. Everything comes from past experience. You could say the TF's faces were influenced by human heads, because they are, noses in nose place, eyes in eye place, etc. But thats a given.

News Credits: 2 · by **Tekka** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:51 am

Well you just answered your own question.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:24 am

Justicity wrote:
Tekka wrote:I don't think that particular one is correct, but I have no doubt they draw creative inspiration from elsewhere. I couldn't say where for sure though.

Just for the fun of it, PiCs oR iT dIdnT HapPeN! LOL!

Hehe, seriously, I don't see what you mean, if you can't think of any particular cases then your point is a weak one.
Of course SOMETHING influenced them, you'd be surprised just how few ideas are genuinely 100% original. Everything comes from past experience. You could say the TF's faces were influenced by human heads, because they are, noses in nose place, eyes in eye place, etc. But thats a given.

I know one!
ALIEN!

Gratest American film monster, designed by guy, ARTist I mean artist from Switzerland.

News Credits: 2 · by **Justicity** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:20 pm

Dead Metal wrote:I know one!
ALIEN!

Gratest American film monster, designed by guy, ARTist I mean artist from Switzerland.

Influences;
Humanoid: two legs, two arms, mouth
Insectoid: senses, posture, mouth, Queen & "worker" relationship
Parasite: breeding
Other than that granted, it's quite original ^^ but not truly.

News Credits: 1 · by ***Galvatron*** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:31 pm

[quote="Justicity"]

Insectoid: senses, posture, mouth, Queen & "worker" relationship

You've just described most of my former coworkers, insectoids! :mrgreen:

My nickname for the lady who's job it is to terminate most people in my organization is "Queen Arachnia" so how accurate is that? :grin:

...we are however immune to her bites,stings and pinches. :-P

Anyway, when my book is finished all be it a long way off at this point one of the characters is transformer inspired but I think it will have appeal to the readers of older transformer generations but more so to the much younger generations of readers and movie watchers.

Elements of your life will always influence what you say and do even if you're not actively aware of them.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:27 pm

Justicity wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:I know one!
ALIEN!

Gratest American film monster, designed by guy, ARTist I mean artist from Switzerland.

Influences;
Humanoid: two legs, two arms, mouth
Insectoid: senses, posture, mouth, Queen & "worker" relationship
Parasite: breeding
Other than that granted, it's quite original ^^ but not truly.

But it's still the original Technorganic creature :grin:

News Credits: 2 · by **Justicity** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:47 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
Justicity wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:I know one!
ALIEN!

Gratest American film monster, designed by guy, ARTist I mean artist from Switzerland.

Influences;
Humanoid: two legs, two arms, mouth
Insectoid: senses, posture, mouth, Queen & "worker" relationship
Parasite: breeding
Other than that granted, it's quite original ^^ but not truly.

But it's still the original Technorganic creature

Never seen the film(s) so I didn't even know it was technorganic.
And not so. Androids, humanoid robots with organic "fleshy" mechanics, were thought up loooong before the "Alien" films.

by **Outrider2000** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:41 pm

Aliens are also slightly influenced by the brood from X men comics (similar in appearance and theme)

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:36 am

Justicity wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Justicity wrote:Influences;
Humanoid: two legs, two arms, mouth
Insectoid: senses, posture, mouth, Queen & "worker" relationship
Parasite: breeding
Other than that granted, it's quite original ^^ but not truly.

But it's still the original Technorganic creature

Never seen the film(s) so I didn't even know it was technorganic.
And not so. Androids, humanoid robots with organic "fleshy" mechanics, were thought up loooong before the "Alien" films.

Oh you can't see it in the movie that it's technorganic, Giger just said it was suposed to be that way, while showing the model he had made out of real bones, whires and other stuff.
You sould watch them one day, best is to watch all 4 in one go!

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:14 am

Outrider2000 wrote:Aliens are also slightly influenced by the brood from X men comics (similar in appearance and theme)

I think you got that a little backwards, Aliens came out in 79 and the giger image before that. The Brood didnt come out until 82

Claremont has said they were inspired by the xenomorphs of the 1979 movie Alien but, interestingly, the Brood appeared before the xenomorph’s hive society was introduced in the sequel Aliens.

by **Outrider2000** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:23 pm

Robinson wrote:
Outrider2000 wrote:Aliens are also slightly influenced by the brood from X men comics (similar in appearance and theme)

I think you got that a little backwards, Aliens came out in 79 and the giger image before that. The Brood didnt come out until 82

Claremont has said they were inspired by the xenomorphs of the 1979 movie Alien but, interestingly, the Brood appeared before the xenomorph’s hive society was introduced in the sequel Aliens.

I stand corrected ... I was thinking the brood were pre 79

by **Rushie** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:29 pm

The Brood were indeed based on the pre-existing Alien, but they did influence the Aliens sequel with their hive hierarchy.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:13 pm

Rushie wrote:The Brood were indeed based on the pre-existing Alien, but they did influence the Aliens sequel with their hive hierarchy.

We don't know that the brood is what influenced the alien movies, but we do know that the concept appeared in the brood before aliens. Who knows is Jim cameron got the idea from the comics or not.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:51 pm

Robinson wrote:
Rushie wrote:The Brood were indeed based on the pre-existing Alien, but they did influence the Aliens sequel with their hive hierarchy.

We don't know that the brood is what influenced the alien movies, but we do know that the concept appeared in the brood before aliens. Who knows is Jim cameron got the idea from the comics or not.

I would say not, cos a deleted scean from ALIEN shows that the Alien did indeed try to breed similar as in ALIENS.
I'll provide a link if possible:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7v4VC_VYoGM

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:34 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Rushie wrote:The Brood were indeed based on the pre-existing Alien, but they did influence the Aliens sequel with their hive hierarchy.

We don't know that the brood is what influenced the alien movies, but we do know that the concept appeared in the brood before aliens. Who knows is Jim cameron got the idea from the comics or not.

I would say not, cos a deleted scean from ALIEN shows that the Alien did indeed try to breed similar as in ALIENS.
I'll provide a link if possible:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7v4VC_VYoGM

I know its most likely not because when they started writing the movie it was before the comic was written.