The Energon Pub

News Credits: 1 · Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:47 am

1 and 2 are just terrible. I rather have the Henkei Ironhide and put the Premium voyager Ironhide in there.

News Credits: 101 · Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:17 am

I personally don't think #5 should be here. Sure, it may be a good toy, but it certainly does NOT look like a Ironhide. There is absolutely nothing Ironhidish about it. Instead, I would have put TF Prime deluxe Arms Micron. That one was brilliant, fake chest be damned.

I'm not very fond of Animated Ironhide either. Sure, he got a nice bot mode but his vehicle is pretty... unsatisfying in my book.

Leader Ironhide is indeed one of the best around. I too, miss the bulky and gimmicky Leaders of yore.

Cyberverse Prime Ironhide is also very great. It make his repaint/remold buddy Traicutter amazing too. A very, very great mold.

Personally, I much prefer the original 2007 movie voyager Ironhide over the ROTF retcon one. It's cleaner, bulkier, and if perfect on a movie shelf with the deluxes. Honorable mention should go to the HFTD deluxe. I personally don't really like it, but many people do.

Finally, I am the only one who really love the G1 mold? I don't have Ironhide but I do have Ratchet. I love his derpy look. Very "Gobotty". It's hillarious and very fun to transform. Plus, obviously the vehicle mode is perfect.

News Credits: 101 · Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:26 am

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Pretty good list! Though I find the lack of even an honourable mention for Energon Ironhide a bit of a shame. Sure, he doesn't look much like G1 Ironhide, and he was extremely annoying in the show, but the toy was pretty decent, colours and visible head aside (at least to the best of my knowledge, never actually owned it myself).

I own the green recolor of him, and I agree he's pretty underrated. Honestly, barring the visible head he's actually pretty good. Nice, beefy alternate mode, fun and easy transformation, beefy robot mode with good articulation and probably the best damned Powerlinx modes of Energon. And heck, he's got molded seats and a steering wheel in his cab! okay, it's not Alternators-level, but it's still good to see!

And hell, the visible head might be a minor blessing in disguise. People hear how 'horrible' it is, then they get the toy and realize other than that, he's a good toy.

Totally agree. Energon Ironhide's only real fault is the stupid VHS. However, he's big and fun to play with. Also, I had great fun customising one. Go see it and tell me over there what you think!

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Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:42 pm

i really surprised HFTD deluxe class ironhide did not make this list. that toy did a lot of complex things that the larger voyager could not. it also had one of the cleanest and heavily detailed alt molds of the bunch. transformation was complex but fun and robot mold was tight and very poseable. finally, he even came with a little drone dude that (along with his other weapons) could store inside the truck, not under it.

News Credits: 10 · Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:58 pm

What's with the sudden outpouring of support for the Universe Ironhide mold? That toy is objectively terrible--it can't even transform right! I don't mind panelformers, but when you're left with a huge-gutted robot with a head permanently stuck in a downwards position, you know you've got a poorly-engineered design. When Hasbro finally replaces this mold with a decent Ironhide and Ratchet, I'll gladly drop-kick my Universe Ratchet into the next ZIP code.

tl;dr That mold doesn't deserve to be on ANY "best of" list.

News Credits: 1646 · Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:22 pm

My time to jump in here!

1) I agree entirely with the guys on the list....just not in that order. To me, Recon Ironhide should be 1, Cyberverse Ironhide 2, Leader hide 3, animated 4 and CW 5.

2) The movie Ironhide to me did justice to the character and actually the vehicle mode is the best part of the movie design. A huge truck is just so much more imposing than a van, and the truck worked so well. Plus we was a grizzled old war vet with scars and a love for guns, and to me that fits my Ironhide very well. So really, I think Bay did justice to him and i love his movie self.

3) CW fits on there since it gives us the younger Hide to me, and he does look amazing and has an awesome head. Plus he uses the truck design, which fits him.

Overall, great list! I like it and give my stamp of approval

Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:31 am

G1 ironhide all the way! sure the bot mode was pretty funky but it was a fun toy
never really liked the movie version
the energon one doesn't count
basically the animated and prime versions were the best
and lets not forget the masterpiece

News Credits: 2 · Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:49 am

Ultra Markus wrote:and lets not forget the masterpiece

Oh yeah I forgot, even if he's not out yet not too much mention over MP Ironhide. :VEHI:

News Credits: 25 · Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:04 am

Can't count it if it's not Reale seductive

News Credits: 462 · Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:23 am

Ironhidensh wrote:Can't count it if it's not Reale seductive

News Credits: 13 · Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:08 am

From what I am reading, it seems that Ironhide hasn't had a good G1 toy since the beginning. Most of them are extremely strange (cough)like the Universe figure(cough). The only figure that's close to looking like G1 Ironhide is the Masterpiece and he has wheels for a butt!

News Credits: 462 · Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:27 am

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:From what I am reading, it seems that Ironhide hasn't had a good G1 toy since the beginning. Most of them are extremely strange (cough)like the Universe figure(cough). The only figure that's close to looking like G1 Ironhide is the Masterpiece and he has wheels for a butt!

What about BotCon 2005 Ironhide?

News Credits: 25 · Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:52 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Can't count it if it's not Reale seductive

Released, my bad.

News Credits: 14 · Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:09 pm

Optimum Supreme wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Pretty good list! Though I find the lack of even an honourable mention for Energon Ironhide a bit of a shame. Sure, he doesn't look much like G1 Ironhide, and he was extremely annoying in the show, but the toy was pretty decent, colours and visible head aside (at least to the best of my knowledge, never actually owned it myself).

Well, as someone who does own it, it's a pretty bad figure. His head isn't just visible, it also has a giant electronic gimmick permanently attached to it. It really has more of a Fisher Price feel to it than a Transformers feel. It's not the worst figure ever (or even the worst Energon figure) but it's definitely not good overall either.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:no mention of the classics ironhide? best one in my opinion.
You mean Universe Ironhide? That mold is terrible.

I disagree. I can SEE why people have that opinion; the panel lines in alt mode (doesn't bother me, much), and not being able to put his arms down at his side (that does bother me a little)... But the bot mode still looks good, I think, and that mold has one of the funnest transformations of any of the classicsverse figures -and that is the most important part for me.

Dude, even Universe Ironhide knows he's a bad toy, that's why he can only hang his head in shame.

I DID forget about that part of the mold, and that one DOES bother me, but I stand by what I said. An interesting transformation goes much further, for me, than a really good looking bot mode. That's why I like the Ironhide/Ratchet mold, and don't much care for (and I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this) the Brainstorm mold.

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:20 pm

DecepticonFinishline wrote:
I DID forget about that part of the mold, and that one DOES bother me, but I stand by what I said. An interesting transformation goes much further, for me, than a really good looking bot mode. That's why I like the Ironhide/Ratchet mold, and don't much care for (and I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this) the Brainstorm mold.

A good transformation does score big points with me too but in the end, I will preffer a crappy transformation if I can get 2 decent modes rather than a great transformation with a bad robot mode or alt mode. But that rarely happens though because a transformation resulting in a crappy robot mode usually doesnt label itself as a good transformation. The times I am thinking of when the transformationw as the better part of the toy would be with RID 2015 Sideswipe and Gen Blitzwing, whose robot modes dont hold together and arent solid so I look upon both of them quite unfavourably. Animated Leader Megatron has one of the simplest transformations ever (especially for a leader) but both modes work really well. So a toy will score major props for having a great and satisfying transformation (HFTS Bludgeon for instance) but that only compliments a toy and doesnt compensate for any negative points, at least for me.

As for all the Ironhide toys out there, here is why I didnt include them: I wouldnt recomend them to anyone. All the toys on the list I would recomend. And sadly (for all of us), CW Ironhide is the only wide release G1 themed Ironhide toy that is a decent toy. The only problem with that Ironhide is that it doesn't look too much like Ironhide. But it's still a better toy than the others. That Offroad mold is awesome and he becomes an extra limb to use in the best combiner system we have ever had where that mold is the best land vehicle limb. For playability, this toy is great!

Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Ironhide Gallery

Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Optimus Maximus Gallery

Now let's look at the other toys mentionned that might have replaced it on the list:

G1 Ironhide: Anyone who may want this toy already has it and understands why it is the way it is. I would never recomend it to any fan of the character (unless they are curious about his origins), it just doesnt work as an actual Ironhide toy since he doesnt even have a head and unlike the G1 cartoon and the other G1 toys, the robot doesnt make up the full alt mode but rather just half of it, where the other half is a sled.

Transformers G1 1984 Ironhide Gallery

Beast Wars Ironhide: easily the worse robot mode of all Beast Wars combiner components:

Transformers Beast Wars Ironhide (Santon) Gallery

Transformers Beast Wars Ironhide (Santon) Gallery

Energon Ironhide: He already was on a list, the worse case of visible head syndrome list, and that is where he belongs. That stuff sprouting from the roof of the car is an eyesore:

Transformers Energon Energon Ironhide (Roadbuster Wild) Gallery

Transformers Energon Energon Ironhide (Roadbuster Wild) Gallery

I wouldnt recomend this toy to anyone unless they are into goofy toys (which some are, but this isnt the list for that).

Universe Ironhide: many people have said it already, but this mold is terrible and would never feature on any best of list. It doesnt even look like Ironhide that much more than any of the other G1 themed Ironhides we've had. I would never recomend anyone spend money on this mold in order to have an Ironhide toy in your collection.

Transformers Universe - Classics 2.0 Ironhide Gallery

Transformers Universe - Classics 2.0 Ironhide Gallery

HFTD Ironhide: For the movie Ironhides, the voyager is ok and I just picked the recon one because it had the most playability and a realy nice headsculpt. The deluxe HFTD toy has a neat transformation but doesnt fit anywhere in a collection and the other molds give you a better fix for the movie ironhide itch.

Transformers Hunt For The Decepticons Ironhide Gallery

As for the arms micron, something went wrong with that release. You can clearly tell from this photo that Hasbro was supposed to release that ironhide mold since it makes way more sense for him to be the one weilding those cannons kup has. Since he cam in the Arms Micron line, he doesnt get the appropriate weapons nor does he get much paint deco and you are left with stickers which I dont feel do that great a job. Especially the ones on his shins that are all mirrored up and shiny, it's so odd. Plus he cant do the decent thing of having his chest be his windshield, which the Commander class figure was able to pull off, and you have to mistransform/reassemble him not to have a dumb looking panel sprouting from his back.

Transformers Arms Micron Ironhide Gallery

Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Sergeant Kup Gallery

In the end, the list is about honouring good toys and not figuring out which bad toy is not THAT bad, which seems to be the defense for every toy not on the list.

News Credits: 462 · Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:29 am

Hmmm...

Rearrange those ones there in some order and you got yourself a "Top 6 Worst Ironhide Transformers Toys" list.

Though, G2 Ironhide/RiD Ironhide (Car Robots Ox) or Power Master Ironhide aren't there.

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:39 am

Sabrblade wrote:Hmmm...

Rearrange those ones there in some order and you got yourself a "Top 6 Worst Ironhide Transformers Toys" list.

Though, G2 Ironhide/RiD Ironhide (Car Robots Ox) or Power Master Ironhide aren't there.

I was just speaking of the ones that were most mentioned in this thread.

And :lol:

News Credits: 273 · Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:06 pm

This is a strange topic just because you're talking about a lot of different characters. Movie Ironhide, Energon Ironhide, BW Ironhide, RID Ironhide...it's not fair to make a top 5 list that includes all of those. It's just apples and oranges. Here's my view on G1 Ironhides.

The CW Ironhide to me is the worst of the 1984 Autobots in that run. Other than being red and having a decent head, there's little to tie him to the Ironhide (cartoon/comic model) we grew up with. He's the worst of the repaints/remolds in the entire line.

BotCon Ironhide has some flaws but is a really nice toy. The windshield is different but the fact that he's a van and also the fact that he has the additional gunner station really helps this fig.

I understand why Universe Ironhide gets some hate, especially with the Smurfy blue face. The Henkei version and the 3-pack Autobot Specialist Ironhide both have a lot better color schemes.

As for the original 1984 Ironhide, all he needs is the head kit that popped up around the time of the Encore release and he's a much nicer figure.

News Credits: 462 · Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:05 pm

Delicon wrote:This is a strange topic just because you're talking about a lot of different characters.

Not when this isn't about characters. It's about toys that were sold under the label of "Ironhide".

News Credits: 7 · Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:55 pm

Eh, "Best Ironhides" is a weird topic. Most of them are based on the "grizzled veteran that turns into a truck" archetype... but then there's Energon Ironhide and that elephant one. So you're neither reviewing the highlights of a certain character's long strange trip throughout the franchise nor are you exploring the odder cases of name slaps, you're just in a strange middle ground.

News Credits: 4 · Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:37 am

Beast Wars Ironhide is technically G1 Ironhide.

News Credits: 462 · Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:15 am

And was excluded from the list since there are so many better Ironhide toys.

News Credits: 4877 · Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:30 am

Sabrblade wrote:And was excluded from the list since there are so many better Ironhide toys.

Yup, and to add to what Sabr said, he wasnt excluded from the conversation: top-5-best-ironhide-transformers-toys-p1748785.php#p1745238

News Credits: 4877 · Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:02 pm

Check out the haul I got yesterday. It included both deluxe movie Ironhide AND the 3rd aprty add on head for G1.

So I can no honestly and without a doubt confirm that my list would not change having those in hand. I wouldnt count thid aprty anyway since saying a toy is only good when you need to spend more money on an add on is the worst way to sell a toy to me, but even with the add on head, that toy still looks wrong. Believe it or not, but G1 Ironhide is far better proportionned when that seat face is seen as his actual head. Because or else the arms are just far too low and it looks terrible. Oh well, at least I got that kit for free.

Now for deluxe Ironhide, I like that toy fine, better than the first movie voyager, but everything is so dam tight. The arm keeps coming off when going back to vehicle mode and that front section with his head and abdominal area stuffed inside is so tight that it seems ready to burst. I also have a huge issue with his lack of neck. I might be doing something wrong, but both the head and torso do not lock in. The upper torso just hangs in this void detached from the lower part of the body where his pelvis and legs are, its really off.

So yeah, the toys are passable, but nothing to tunr home about. I paid 5$ for deluxe Ironhide and I am happy because I wouldnt have paid more.

Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:39 pm

Going back to CW Ironhide, he may not be the best representation of the character Ironhide as presented in G1 fiction, but he's certainly one of the better toys sold under the name Ironhide. If that's the criteria for this list, and it seems it is, well then...